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CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar at Summerslam 2013 is the best WWE CM Punk match. Watch that one.
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Everblight posted:Just watch this match 3 times hth
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May 25, 2014 21:37
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St Evan Echoes posted:Is it from February 2013? Yes, that's the one.
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May 25, 2014 21:49
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anakha posted:My default example of a good heel - heel match is Shawn Michaels - Rick Martel at Summerslam 92. Just so much fun. This is a good answer, and brings up another question: Which is more, the amount of times Shawn exposed his rear end in ring, or the amount of times Vince has said "Whatta maneuver!"
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May 25, 2014 21:55
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You have to think that the number of Whatamaneuvers on the old Superstars squashes alone has to be incredible.
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May 25, 2014 21:57
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Joeslop posted:This is a good answer, and brings up another question: Which is more, the amount of times Shawn exposed his rear end in ring, or the amount of times Vince has said "Whatta maneuver!" Trick question. The only time Vince said "Whatta manuever" was when Shawn exposed his rear end.
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May 25, 2014 21:57
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Yaya posted:Yes, that's the one. Notes: Cena's STF is the least convincing submission hold I've ever seen.
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May 25, 2014 21:59
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Amy Renee posted:So what are the WWE "eras", exactly? 1984 - 1997: This is awesome because I'm a kid era 1997 - 2002: This is awesome because I am an immature young adult and there are boobies era 2002 - 2003: Stone Cold, no what are you doing era 2003 - 2014: Stupid loving bullshit era
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May 25, 2014 22:02
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So a friend of mine wants to get into wrestling and is looking for a playlist of really good modern matches that also work as a good introduction to the sport/art/whatever. I've already got WWE covered, but my knowledge of stuff outside WWE is woefully inadequate. Could I get some help with stuff from NJPW and ROH, and other Feds that fit the criteria above and happened in the past 3-4 years? Also, if I had to show him just one Tanahashi/Okada match which one should it be?
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May 25, 2014 22:02
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Dimebags Brain posted:So a friend of mine wants to get into wrestling and is looking for a playlist of really good modern matches that also work as a good introduction to the sport/art/whatever. Show her Okada/Styles and War of the Worlds as a start.
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May 25, 2014 22:10
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Dimebags Brain posted:So a friend of mine wants to get into wrestling and is looking for a playlist of really good modern matches that also work as a good introduction to the sport/art/whatever. Invasion Attack 4/7/13 for the best Tanahashi/Okada match (although all are really good!). Ishii/Shibata, Ishii/Tanahashi, Ibushi/Nakamura all from the 2013 NJPW G1 Climax. Okada/Goto and Naito/Ishii from the same show (2/19? I'm too lazy to look it up). Shibata/Goto from the June 22, 2013 show. Devitt/Ibushi/Low-Ki from Wrestle Kingdom 7. All great matches. If you want more NJPW matches let me know. Someone else can help with ROH. E: OH! Tanahashi/Suzuki from October(?) 2012. An absolutely perfect match.
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May 25, 2014 22:14
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:2002-2007 Ruthless Aggression reality era isn't real
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May 25, 2014 23:33
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Reality Era actually started in 2014, HHH officially began it.
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May 25, 2014 23:35
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:2002-2007 Ruthless Aggression None of these eras exist. If anything the start of the network should probably be looked at as a New Era in wrestling as it's an actual drastic change. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 25, 2014 |
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May 25, 2014 23:36
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The truth is there are only two eras. PMCBLBUTSWM30, and MCBLBUTSWM30. Pre my client BROCK LESNAR breaking the Undertaker's Streak at Wrestlemania 30, and my client BROCK LESNAR broke the Undertaker's Steak at Wrestlemania 30.
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St Evan Echoes posted:I like the 5 seconds he's onscreen during that. His head is so low. So low. Here are both of his 5-star matches and Punk's 2 best promos. CM Punk vs Samoa Joe II. - http://www.veoh.com/watch/v15374190r8p6YPax?h1=Samoa+Joe+vs+CM+Punk+II-ROH CM Punk vs John Cena @ MITB 11 - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkn0g4_wwe-money-in-the-bank-2011-cm-punk-vs-john-cena_sport Punk "pipe-bomb" promo on RAW- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS9wZGb_3g Punk's promo after winning the ROH title at Death Before Dishonor 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTqgwyuv3CU Here's some more. Punk mocks Jeff Hardy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC6iLl26vpg Punk vs. Brock Lesnar Summerslam 2013. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWBg2UNdkdQ Collection of Punk heeling it up in IWA Mid South. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--X8pAvg3DE God Of Paradise fucked around with this message at 23:56 on May 25, 2014 |
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May 25, 2014 23:45
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Shima Honnou posted:The truth is there are only two eras. PMCBLBUTSWM30, and MCBLBUTSWM30. What about the era before the streak began?
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Hockles posted:What about the era before the streak began? That was the primordial ooze from which the Streak arose
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May 26, 2014 00:14
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Hockles posted:What about the era before the streak began? That was all pre-break, all the way back to the beginning of wrestletime when the first two Greeks decided to drench themselves in olive oil and begin grabbing at one another.
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HulkaMatt posted:None of these eras exist. "Network Era" also sounds a whole lot cooler than "Reality Era," while also inviting a lot of fun Howard Beale references. Delsaber fucked around with this message at 02:05 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 01:56
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As great as Joe vs. Punk II is I definitely wouldn't watch it as your first CM Punk match.
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May 26, 2014 02:15
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HulkaMatt posted:As great as Joe vs. Punk II is I definitely wouldn't watch it as your first CM Punk match. Yeah, I just figured, instead of posting my favorites I would just post the 5 star matches. I guess it's arguable how important an Observer 5-star rated match is, but since there have been 6 in the United States since 97, I figured those two were a pretty big deal. The first Punk match I watched was like a hardcore cage match against Raven. Not a good introduction.
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May 26, 2014 02:37
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The February 2013 Cena vs. Punk match was the one that was for the title match at Wrestlemania? Either way my actual question is how many times has Cena done a hurricanrana (if that's the right name for the move he uses at the end of the match)?
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May 26, 2014 02:48
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Probably five or six times on TV.
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May 26, 2014 02:52
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Funktastic posted:The February 2013 Cena vs. Punk match was the one that was for the title match at Wrestlemania? Either way my actual question is how many times has Cena done a hurricanrana (if that's the right name for the move he uses at the end of the match)? He pulls it out every few matches or so. He did it in his match with Luke Harper last week on Raw.
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May 26, 2014 02:52
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I don't know any time he's done a hurricanrana, but he tries and botches it all the time. It's worse than when Steiner would try it in TNA.
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May 26, 2014 03:06
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God Of Paradise posted:I don't know any time he's done a hurricanrana, but he tries and botches it all the time. It's worse than when Steiner would try it in TNA. Welp, Scott Steiner is going to murder you.
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May 26, 2014 03:08
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Anytime Cena does a high flying-ish move it always looks lovely. He just does them so rarely that people freak out.
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May 26, 2014 03:12
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Bard Maddox posted:He pulls it out every few matches or so. He did it in his match with Luke Harper last week on Raw. Aw hell, is he escalating? Are we going to see a Cena Shooting Star Press at Payback?
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May 26, 2014 03:14
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I'm pretty sure Cena only did it because Harper already did earlier in the match. Harpers was much better too.
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May 26, 2014 03:40
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it's kind of amazing how well Harper can do flippy moves considering how big he is.
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May 26, 2014 03:41
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Shima Honnou posted:That was all pre-break, all the way back to the beginning of wrestletime when the first two Greeks decided to drench themselves in olive oil and begin grabbing at one another. Terry Funk won that match and immediately announced his retirement.
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May 26, 2014 03:47
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For Erachat I'd say 1984-1992 Rock n' Wrestling/Hogan Era 1992-1997 New Generation 1997-2001 Attitude Era 2001-2005 Decline Era 2005-2014(?) Cena Era 2014- Network Era(?) I really hate how Ruthless Aggression seems to have taken hold of that era by default. Attitude, New Generation, and Rock n' Wrestling were vital parts of the product, with explicit mentions of all in marketing and promotion. Ruthless Aggression was a catchphrase from a single lovely promo and toy line. It also sounds horrible. There is really no identity at all for 2001-05 other than decline. The casual fan base all but vanishes over this time period, the product is hot garbage for most of the time, the new stars they have are mostly B+ players because the company started their now long tradition of being unable to truly pull the trigger on them, and buyrates and ratings go down down down. Not to say that it doesn't continue doing so in the Cena Era, but at the very least the company had a marketable mainstream draw on top for the first time in a long time. Hard to really say if we're truly in a new "era" at all.
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Dimebags Brain posted:I've already got WWE covered, but my knowledge of stuff outside WWE is woefully inadequate. Could I get some help with stuff from NJPW and ROH, and other Feds that fit the criteria above and happened in the past 3-4 years? Also, if I had to show him just one Tanahashi/Okada match which one should it be? Stro vs. Diablo Jr. - Mountain State Wrestling 11/14/10
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May 26, 2014 04:11
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When discussing eras it's important to remember that some years are outliers from other eras. WWF in 1996-1997 feels completely different from 1995 or 1998.
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May 26, 2014 05:54
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:2002-2007 Ruthless Aggression I had always heard the end of the Attitude Era was late 2001, placing the WCW/ECW invasion at the tail end of it. Even though WCW and ECW no longer existed, they still did in kayfabe, and Survivor Series was where they were defeated. Competition was what started Attitude and lack of competition is what ended it. After that I'd be tempted to call 2002 the start of the Brand Split Era, because that was its defining feature and it completely changed the face of the company. Merging the rosters would be the end of that era, though there were a few years before Supershows where they clearly didn't care about separating rosters anymore. That would've been around 2011, which is conveniently where the pipebomb happened and the "Reality" Era is said to begin, even though Triple H didn't refer to it on TV until recently. I wouldn't say PG is an era necessarily. It took out sex and blood and most of the swearing but they've been blurring those lines for years since JBL IS POOPY happened.
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May 26, 2014 06:38
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Ruthless Aggression did lead to Benoit having the term Toothless Aggression though...
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Nut Bunnies posted:I really hate how Ruthless Aggression seems to have taken hold of that era by default. It's taken hold because that's what WWE actually calls it. In video games, on toys, whatever. For all intents and purposes it might as well mean "Cena time all the time", though.
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May 26, 2014 06:46
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I don't know if this is really a "wrestling" question, but has anyone tried JR's barbecue sauce?
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Anytime Cena does a high flying-ish move it always looks lovely. He just does them so rarely that people freak out. I like his leg drop on the guy who is bent over for an unnaturally long time. Well, not really. But at least it looks like a leg drop to a guy who is bent over for an unnaturally long time.
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