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Has anyone mentioned Phase Shift yet? (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/45510403/phase-shift-the-greatest-ever-sci-fi-fantasy-table) I had the dubious distinction of playtesting this, and let me say that I am glad this did not get funded. It is not the greatest ever sci-fi/fantasy RPG ever. It is the worst 12-year-old's wizard power-trip wet dream fantasy ever and goes into Epic Level Handbook levels of obscenely pointless numbers of dice rolling. The rulebook tosses out the prospect of a 20d20 thinking that you'll salivate over how AWESOME THAT IS, gently caress YES when it really sucks. The magic system is the greatest piece of poo poo ever. It is very literally "Describe to the GM what you want to do with your magic and the DM goes 'sure' or 'no'". The rulebook contains rough guidelines of just how powerful the effects could be depending on skill level, but honestly the magic system is designed for people who played 3.5e D&D and thought Wizards weren't powerful because the giant loopholes they could drive their magic through weren't big enough. Playtesting it with the designer GM'ing it, I watched as wizards basically dictated what would happen in the game (and the GM basically ignore the 'power levels' he had set out in the rulebook and let the wizards do whatever they could dream) while the Warriors got the very exciting task of trying to hit poo poo every turn and sometimes succeeding and sometimes failing (but mostly failing).
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LuiCypher posted:Has anyone mentioned Phase Shift yet? (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/45510403/phase-shift-the-greatest-ever-sci-fi-fantasy-table) The thing that RPGs needed most was, apparently, a thin veneer of god complex over a molten core of self loathing. The mother of all RPGs. The website is amazing. My favorite part has to be the completely mangled contact info at the very bottom, right below the self-deprecating author bios. I'm guessing he wasn't terribly receptive to feedback during the playtest?
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May 24, 2014 00:05
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Afinostux posted:The thing that RPGs needed most was, apparently, a thin veneer of god complex over a molten core of self loathing. I think you can leave feedback on the site, but he didn't really have any forms to fill out (As an opinion researcher, this bothered me) at the time. Moreover, his attitude towards the game was, well... You know how when little kids make a piece of art and they think THIS IS AMAZING, I SPENT SO MUCH TIME MAKING THIS AWESOME SO IT IS TOTALLY GOOD? That's sort of how he treated the game. It was already so far along and nearly "finished" that I find it hard to tell him to scrap the system in its entirety because he's working from a flawed base (d20) and I feel that he doesn't have any experience with RPG systems other than 3rd edition D&D. It's babby's first effort, but for some reason instead of using it as a lesson (if I ever program my first game, I'm sure as hell not going to try to sell it on Steam because it's probably bad) he's actually trying to make it into a real product that is sold... somewhere? In other words, the designer's sheer enthusiasm outweighed his talent/skills, and his main playtesters (which were his friends) are basically yes-men because they like the same things and they didn't try to steer the game in a more positive direction (mainly because I don't think they knew how to). As it stands, it's a super-spergy solo game that you just happen to be playing at the same time as other people. I swear, the more different RPGs I play, the more I realize that if I ever design a system someday, you're just going to roll a d6 and be happy with that. But I think Robin Laws beat me to it already. Edit: Nope, no feedback on the site. LuiCypher has a new favorite as of 01:05 on May 24, 2014 |
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May 24, 2014 00:46
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LuiCypher posted:I swear, the more different RPGs I play, the more I realize that if I ever design a system someday, you're just going to roll a d6 and be happy with that. But I think Robin Laws beat me to it already. Ehhhhh, that sounds like a lot of time invested. Here, I'll just pre-roll a d6, and the result will be, in its entirety, the handbook for my new game system: Simple Game System posted:4
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May 24, 2014 01:06
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Bad Munki posted:Ehhhhh, that sounds like a lot of time invested. Here, I'll just pre-roll a d6, and the result will be, in its entirety, the handbook for my new game system: And another one beats me to the punch! But you did save me a lot of time on the development front. A four is a most formidable result.
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May 24, 2014 01:23
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But not too powerful! It's important to maintain a balance. However, if you're after something more "epic," I have a god tier handbook available.Simple Game System God Tier posted:5 
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May 24, 2014 01:27
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Bad Munki posted:But not too powerful! It's important to maintain a balance. However, if you're after something more "epic," I have a god tier handbook available. Holy crap.  Your work here is done. My mind is officially blown by the simplicity, yet extreme effectiveness. Honestly, I appreciate the effort that went into Phase Shift - it's certainly more than I would do and it's probably leagues better than Synnibar - but it could have suffered through some more diverse playtesting, opinion surveys, and a much better business plan than the Kickstarter portrays.
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Experimental Fiction about a Blue Rainbow Sprinkle who falls into a Black Hole that looks like a pizza, and he feels deep depression. ]I don't even know what the gently caress is going on here. quote:The risks are that the book will be so bad that nobody will want to read it. I am qualified because I've dealt with failure before. So it's basically some monkey-cheese ironic bullshit or something, I dunno. That's how it reads. edit: Someone else wants in on some of that sweet, sweet hotdog money. Noyemi K has a new favorite as of 15:27 on May 25, 2014 |
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May 25, 2014 13:32
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Noyemi K posted:Experimental Fiction about a Blue Rainbow Sprinkle who falls into a Black Hole that looks like a pizza, and he feels deep depression. Maybe his Hone Page has more info?
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May 25, 2014 16:15
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It literally sounds like something a 5 year old would come up with.
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May 25, 2014 17:52
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No vent hood budget, they will crash and burn.
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May 25, 2014 19:38
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No reference to Prefab Sprout: "Hot Dog, Jumping Frog, Alberquerque", no pledge. They're not even trying.
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May 25, 2014 20:45
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I'll make the GBS thread
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May 25, 2014 20:47
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anyone else think 10k for one of those trucks is a little too cheap? fake edit: yes it is, this '81 piece of poo poo costs more than twice that. we have a new doobie on our hands? real edit: though it does say it was remodled in 2002, but I think the point stands.
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May 25, 2014 21:05
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KiddieGrinder posted:anyone else think 10k for one of those trucks is a little too cheap? It's also outfitted with a bunch of fryers, refrigerators, an oven, and grill. I bet an empty one could cost ~10k.
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May 25, 2014 21:16
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Xandu posted:It's also outfitted with a bunch of fryers, refrigerators, an oven, and grill. I bet an empty one could cost ~10k. true I didn't notice he itemised those things on his kickstarter. I retract my slanderous doobie remarks.
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May 25, 2014 21:30
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Xandu posted:It's also outfitted with a bunch of fryers, refrigerators, an oven, and grill. I bet an empty one could cost ~10k. Are we to take this as your mod endorsement for hotdogman 2? Tiberius Thyben has a new favorite as of 21:40 on May 25, 2014 |
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May 25, 2014 21:35
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I seem to remember there was some kickstarter a couple years back that was for running a meat cupcake thing food truck in Portland that met its goal and bought a truck with fryers and all. And then the business didn't do well and they ended up putting the whole fitted out thing on craigslist for like $9000. So if this kickstarter plans to buy another failed business's food truck thing it could probably do it up for $10,000.
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May 25, 2014 21:37
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Won't someone give us money to be professional idea guys?quote:The aim of this project is to raise enough funds to produce an industry standard pitch/presentation. We'll then take that directly to any developers we feel would be appropriate for the project, and hopefully it will convince them to take the project on.
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May 26, 2014 00:48
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Unless you've got a fat pile of money, no developer is going to take your idea and make a game out of it.
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May 26, 2014 01:40
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Noyemi K posted:Won't someone give us money to be professional idea guys? Is there some other objective going on here because I can't believe they expect this to go anywhere.
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May 26, 2014 01:44
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Hi Im kickstarting a new kickstarter service, if I reach my goal I will open a business where i will kick start any project for anybody who is willing to make another kickstarter to raise funds to pay me to do it. At which point if your kickstarter is successful I take the money and use it to kickstart a project for you and if its successful I take a modest cut and provide you with the funds. Additionally I can provide professional concept game ideas, wearable ideas and porn comix analysis. What do you think??
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May 26, 2014 04:17
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Hi Im kickstarting a new kickstarter service, if I reach my goal I will open a business where i will kick start any project for anybody who is willing to make another kickstarter to raise funds to pay me to do it. At which point if your kickstarter is successful I take the money and use it to kickstart a project for you and if its successful I take a modest cut and provide you with the funds. Additionally I can provide professional concept game ideas, wearable ideas and porn comix analysis. What do you think?? Can you make it more like Dark Souls?
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May 26, 2014 06:22
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ImpAtom posted:Can you make it more like Dark Souls? Also Metroidvania, and pixels.
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May 26, 2014 06:29
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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:Also Metroidvania, and pixels. And I love those thin legs that are all the rage.
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May 26, 2014 06:50
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7thBatallion posted:And I love those thin legs that are all the rage. And gotta put in steampunk zombies in there somewhere.
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May 26, 2014 07:32
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Only if it plugs into an iphone
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Do people hate the steampunk aesthetic because of zombie-like overuse and the terrible fanbase, or is there something inherently terrible about steampunk itself?
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RottenK posted:Do people hate the steampunk aesthetic because of zombie-like overuse and the terrible fanbase, or is there something inherently terrible about steampunk itself? The former. Steampunk done right is pretty neat, and there's nothing inherently wrong with the aesthetic, but nerds have reduced it down to its most vapid, meaningless aspects.
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RottenK posted:Do people hate the steampunk aesthetic because of zombie-like overuse and the terrible fanbase, or is there something inherently terrible about steampunk itself? Yes.
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RottenK posted:Do people hate the steampunk aesthetic because of zombie-like overuse and the terrible fanbase, or is there something inherently terrible about steampunk itself? There are arguments that it glamourises an era where it was basically super awesome to be a rich white male capitalist and sucked to be everyone else, but mostly it's the overuse and the terrible fans. In conclusion, stick gears on everything, and then also a monocle.
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Pomp posted:The former. Steampunk done right is pretty neat, and there's nothing inherently wrong with the aesthetic, but nerds have reduced it down to its most vapid, meaningless aspects. That, and you're pitting nerds with no aesthetic sense against a an incredibly intricate style. The ultimate condemnation of steampunk is that in spite of all the gimmicky trappings, bolted on bullshit, and anachronistic adventure garbage that gets thrown in there, reading about real people from the point in time it apes is always more interesting. Let's not forget that steampunk is just about the least punk thing ever conceived.
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RottenK posted:Do people hate the steampunk aesthetic because of zombie-like overuse and the terrible fanbase, or is there something inherently terrible about steampunk itself? There's also the angle the British Empire was one of the darkest moments in world history and dressing it up as a lovely nerd adventure playground is a lovely and wildly ignorant thing to do. Also Afinostux posted:Let's not forget that steampunk is just about the least punk thing ever conceived.
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May 26, 2014 09:45
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It's still okay to like cyberpunk stuff though right?
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Talorat posted:It's still okay to like cyberpunk stuff though right? It's problematic. 
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Afinostux posted:Let's not forget that steampunk is just about the least punk thing ever conceived. Let's make a science finction genre set in the Victorian era, and the industrial revolution, and instead of using to explore any of the blindingly obvious good themes and issues to choose from, let's just have a bunch of escapist fantasy adventures and never aspire for anything more. What a loving waste.
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I don't really care about Steampunk but people are honestly upset that it's not 'deep' enough and it makes light of a brutal time period? It's a stupid nerd fantasy thing just like every other stupid nerd fantasy thing. Do you guys also rage against the life of serfs during the medieval period when you read about an RPG?
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You could rename "Steampunk" with "cogs and goggles fetishism" and it would make no difference.
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No, but that genre doesn't call itself DirtPunk now, does it?
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Pomp posted:Let's make a science finction genre set in the Victorian era, and the industrial revolution, and instead of using to explore any of the blindingly obvious good themes and issues to choose from, let's just have a bunch of escapist fantasy adventures and never aspire for anything more. Humor me -- what would you consider a good theme/issue to explore in a steampunk setting? There's plenty of topics about Victorian Britain that one could riff on in any work of fiction for that era. (Child labor, massive overcrowding due to urbanization, and the obsession with privacy, to name a few.) But steampunk wouldn't really emphasize or otherwise contribute to an exploration of those topics, for the most part. In fact, the only steampunk novel I can think of that's ever really played with the factual era was Stephenson's Diamond Age.
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