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Schneider Heim posted:Spent my entire Sunday playing DW8XL. If your weapons have a single element, you're in no way maxed. Also why do you have those on Lu Bu? He's best with a Halberd. If it's too slow, make one with Velocity 10 and it'll chew through anything.
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They both have Cyclone, Flash, Induction, Explosive, and Velocity in common. It's in the last element that I vary them so I have a way to regen life without relying on items. I'm still deciding on whose 4th weapons to make!
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May 26, 2014 03:45
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Shima Honnou posted:Same, found 4XL in a Gamestop or whatever a long rear end time ago while I was in high school, gave it a try, fell in love, although I never really got any other actual DW games until 360 (5 Empires, 6/6 Empires, 7), I ended up going the SW route during the PS2 era; hence my avatar. I started with 3, but I too miss the old Xiahou Dun. The older character designs felt a lot less ~anime~ and made certain characters (particularly Liu Bei) function more believably within the narrative. As far as creepy bodyguard events go, here are a few I found noteworthy: The Bodyguard, starring Cai Wenji & Yu Jin   Cuckolding Sima Yi 
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May 26, 2014 04:06
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I picked up DW8 Complete and it owns, thanks everyone. This wasn't really applicable with Warriors Orochi 3 but I started reading Romance of the Three Kingdoms. DW is much less exaggerated and sensationalized than I thought it was.  Samurai Sanders posted:I wonder what dumb excuse for Orochi reappearing they will come up with for that one? 3's "It isn't Orochi, Orochi is dead for real this time, really! It's an avatar of destruction that just LOOKS like him" was dumb enough already. One hour long live action FMV of Cao Cao waking up, getting ready to attend court like normal, then suddenly Orochi is there and the guy playing Cao Cao looks right at the camera and goes "Warriors Orochi 1 2 and 3.....JUST A DREAM?!" Cut to title screen and random heavy metal song. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 04:16 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 04:14
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I have some points expiring at Rakuten soon that I need to spend and I was thinking about picking up DW8 Complete since nothing else really interests me. I loved playing the series back on the PS2 but never touched any PS3/360 generation ones, but I do remember absolutely loving the series when I was younger. Is the Playstation 4 version appreciably better than the one for Vita? I'd been debating which one to pick up.
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May 26, 2014 05:29
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So, I am starting the Shu hypothetical... And I can already see that it is going to be several levels of "Let's assassinate Lu Meng's character in order to make Guan Yu (even though he was being a douche) and the morally superior Shu look good  I suppose I should have expected this, but it is going to be pain.VVV I just like him is all. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 10:01 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 09:52
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Lu Meng has a character to assassinate?
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May 26, 2014 09:55
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Lu Meng certainly got better treatment here than in Three Kingdoms, where he was liked by no one.
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I've a question about Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, namely about save transfer from the regular version: I understand that the save from Orochi 3 can be linked to the Ultimate version - however, I have some questions: 1) Generally speaking, does such a transfer carries over everything (Bond levels, character levels, progression and unlocks etc.)? 2) Is there any word if linking a PS3 save with a PS4 version of Ultimate would work? Generally, if I'm mistaken in thinking that saves transfer I'll just hold on playing the base version until the Ultimate lands, since there's a ton of content to unlock and I'd hate to do it twice, plus PS4'd would more impressive version. But if it does transfer fully, then I can start playing the base version in anticipation. Thanks in advance!
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May 26, 2014 10:25
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So i played through the campaigns of dw8 pc version and started ambition mode, i'm enjoying it immensely, is there a similar mode on warriors orochi or is it worth getting dw7 empires for more of this? Riding a bear as xu zhu and destroying everything is the best. Edit:There's also a full japanese voice patch for dw8 pc, but im not sure if stuff like that can be linked? this also includes voices for camps and other stuff that's not in the english voice version. Delerion fucked around with this message at 13:35 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 13:19
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Tae posted:Lu Meng certainly got better treatment here than in Three Kingdoms, where he was liked by no one. @Unlucky7: You can consider the novel to be mass character assassination, if that's any consolation... but even that one has Sun Quan give Guan Yu a 'fair shot' up until the remark on their kids, it's the folklore that brushes over what we considered to be 'Shu in the wrong' (the Jing situation). Incidental note: the novel de-emphasized Guan Yu's personally dickery in favor of a concerted PR effort by Lu Meng as far as how Jing fell so easily. Chortles fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 27, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 13:24
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Chortles posted:Are you talking about the 2010 show, because that one gave him a bunch of notable time. I meant after the Fan Castle incident when Wu poisoned him to death.
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May 26, 2014 13:29
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Man,I should have played closer attention to the bond dialog. What happens if you have like Zhang Chunhua and Sima Zhao or Guan Yu and Guan Yinping or whatever? Does it still play or does it just wait until you complete a battle with someone else?
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May 26, 2014 13:32
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Guan Yu's ghost possessing Lu Meng, insulting Sun Quan by calling him a 'purple-bearded rat,' and then killing Lu Meng by 'vomiting blood from his seven orifices' is still a hella metal scene. Also raises Guan Yu to one of the three people in the novel to scare the crap out of others after they had died. Also I just played through the Jin historical route and it really drives home the 'and then everything slowly descended into a pile of mediocrity and failure' of the last parts of the novel.
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May 26, 2014 14:02
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Guan Yu is amazing because he was already metal has hell for spending too chapters just riding around slowly killing arrogant officers but the blood vomit was supreme. Also "Indeed, that is why I am called 'The Man of the Beautiful Beard.'"
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May 26, 2014 14:09
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I know its recommended in the OP, but would other people suggest getting Warriors Orochi 3? It looks like I can get the Wii U one for pretty cheap.
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May 26, 2014 14:17
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The wii u version is a pretty good version of a good warriors game.
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Ragnarok the Red posted:I have some points expiring at Rakuten soon that I need to spend and I was thinking about picking up DW8 Complete since nothing else really interests me. I loved playing the series back on the PS2 but never touched any PS3/360 generation ones, but I do remember absolutely loving the series when I was younger. They're pretty much exactly the same game, PS4 has better graphics, Vita has frame-rate issues, just depends if you want a portable version more or not.
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Neo Rasa posted:I picked up DW8 Complete and it owns, thanks everyone. This wasn't really applicable with Warriors Orochi 3 but I started reading Romance of the Three Kingdoms. DW is much less exaggerated and sensationalized than I thought it was. It's less that and more that RotTK is also completely exaggerated and sensationalized.
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So the latest update off of Steam seems to have fixed the freezing issues for DW8, on my computer at least. Just got done doing about 5 stages in Ambition mode, saving every time of course, and no crashes yet.
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May 26, 2014 18:34
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I never have crashes whenever I put the game on Higher Priority, but I'll never learn why that makes it immune (because the times I've forgotten to do it, it definitely crashes a lot). I'm hoping they put out actual patches like the Japanese DLC soon.
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May 26, 2014 18:47
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Tae posted:I never have crashes whenever I put the game on Higher Priority, but I'll never learn why that makes it immune (because the times I've forgotten to do it, it definitely crashes a lot). Right, I used to have to do that too, but since the update I launched the game normally and haven't messed with any settings (normal priority, all processors) and the game runs fine.
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May 26, 2014 19:01
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Whats this Three Kingdoms 2010 thing?
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May 26, 2014 19:16
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Have you heard of this new thing called Google? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Kingdoms_(TV_series)
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THE MOON! posted:Whats this Three Kingdoms 2010 thing? A Chinese TV series that is extremely well made and available with subtitles on YouTube.
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May 26, 2014 19:19
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Nintendo of America talked about Hyrule Warriors some more.
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Policenaut posted:Nintendo of America talked about Hyrule Warriors some more. I'm really hoping that them completely eliminating them in OPPW2 means that they have realized how awful they were and they won't bring that back. gently caress anything that stops me from being able to play a Koei game after about 20 beers.
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Policenaut posted:So I'm guessing they will stick those Pirate Warriors platforming stages in here but replace Luffy's stretchy arms with Hook Shot... Don't mean to be rude, and I understand it is speculation, but I am not sure where you are getting that from. The whole "Characters and weapons are unlocked through story progression" thing? Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 21:52 on May 26, 2014 |
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Unlucky7 posted:Don't mean to be rude, and I understand it is speculation, but I am not sure where you are getting that from. The whole "Characters and weapons are unlocked through story progression" thing? Well, it's Omega Force on mercenary work again so I'm guessing they'll probably use a bunch of pre-existing mechanics from other games and slap a Zelda theme on them to make the game more "Zelda-y". You can totally see it, can't you? It'll be something like Link is stuck at the bottom of Death Mountain and needs to go up to see the Gorons to get that Biggoron Sword upgrade but the evil witch has flooded parts of the trail with lava so Link has to use the Hook Shot to climb the mountain with it. Maybe you'll use the Gamepad to see spots you can use it on and hit QTEs when you're further up the mountain and things get "harder". Nintendo of America mentioning that not every stage will be a standard Dynasty Warriors affair hit a red flag in my head, like there's a lot you could do with the Zelda universe but I'm more inclined to believe that a company based around repeating the same basic formula for around 2 decades is going to recycle some things. Maybe TK will rip off Sengoku BASARA and have some Epona racing stages? That'd be cool, I liked those in SB3. Policenaut fucked around with this message at 22:23 on May 26, 2014 |
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Policenaut posted:Well, it's Omega Force on mercenary work again so I'm guessing they'll probably use a bunch of pre-existing mechanics from other games and slap a Zelda theme on them to make the game more "Zelda-y". Now you put it like that, yeah I can see it. But it is also Nintendo, and they have been known to crack the bull whip when it comes to third parties developing their games. And this is freaking Zelda, not a sequel or remake of a lesser series. I would think they would have an interest in this being at least decent. Quick, someone post an image of the CD-I Zelda games! Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 00:41 on May 27, 2014 |
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Pureauthor posted:Also I just played through the Jin historical route and it really drives home the 'and then everything slowly descended into a pile of mediocrity and failure' of the last parts of the novel. Ironically, the very same "everything slowly descended into a pile of mediocrity and failure" is why I find the Jin story mode a perfunctory slog. Neo Rasa posted:Guan Yu is amazing because he was already metal has hell Bonus: This is the immediate aftermath of Lu Bu seeing Chen Gong taken captive by defectors after the flood attack at Xiapi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VepXN0_usEs (I'm of the impression that the dialogue is right out of the manga, if you're wondering who's to blame for it.) For anyone not in the know but who do know several anime, that's the Japanese voice of Light Yagami, Tamaki, and Ling Yao as Cao Cao, plus the Japanese voice of Ezio Auditore, Mitsunari (SB version), the Tekken 4-onward Yoshimitsu, and freakin' Domon Kasshu... as Liu Bei.
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Unlucky7 posted:Now you put it like that, yeah I can see it. The CD-i games were made without Nintendo's involvement though so it doesn't count! But yeah hopefully Nintendo will be adamant about this game being good and we won't get Water 7 v2.0. Chortles posted:Ironically, the very same "everything slowly descended into a pile of mediocrity and failure" is why I find the Jin story mode a perfunctory slog. I found Jin boring in DW7 because it was all pretty much "Hey these guys are rebelling. Hey now these other guys are rebelling. Oh Shu's at it again. Guess what now? More rebels!" It didn't help that all the rebels were generic NPCs so it felt really same-y.
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I liked the sort of desperate mania of Jiang Wei's increasingly feeble attempts to do the same thing over and over with no success. His shouting, frantic voice acting ends up working really well with it, and by the time of the 7th Northern Campaign, I can imagine Shu's officer corps in Chengdu being starving, scarred, shellshocked and mostly insane, thoughtlessly following the prophet Jiang Wei and their idol replacement for Liu Bei, Liu Shan, who can give them no answers but religiously repeating Zhuge Liang's last efforts until they're ground into meat against Wei's borders. Other than that, I didn't really care for Jin's campaign though.
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Probably why they went into more internal strifes for DW8's Jin campaign, at least in the hypothetical when it's basically the Zhong Hei rebellion. The generic NPC faces also let off a lot of what would make Jin more exciting, but no foe that's already in DW8 have much of a face before being assassinated by their own people or something.
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Jin's campaign is incredible whenever it deals with the Sima family's antics. Every member of that family is just so wonderful and DW7's campaign turned me into a true Jin believer, because god drat after DW7 Shu I was so happy to see a faction beating the everloving poo poo out of them day in day out. Everyone in Jin looks like they stepped out of the future. They're all so weird and out there, carrying weapons which most other factions never have and playing so differently. The cast size is smaller so they make up for it by giving everyone more unique stuff and I think Jin's better for it. At some point I stopped caring that Shu's involvement in Jin was the equivalent to a Monster of the Week anime because it usually meant I would get to wreck people with a new, fun character. I seriously thought everyone in Jin was fun as hell to play as and I'm hurrying to RMA my PS4 so I can pick up DW8XLCE soon.
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I love the Hypothetical stage where Sima Yi and Zhang Chunhua go out of retirement to put down Zhong Hui's rebellion. The dialogue is amazing. I really like Wen Yang's officer defeated quote, too. ("Are there no heroes left in this land?")
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Schneider Heim posted:I love the Hypothetical stage where Sima Yi and Zhang Chunhua go out of retirement to put down Zhong Hui's rebellion. The dialogue is amazing. Considering that by the time Wen Yang is rolling around every "Heroic" figure is long dead, it really adds to the feeling of "Times are changing".
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I've been playing 8XL on Steam is there a good source of information, I can't find a decent wiki for this. Like what does leadership levels actually do
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socialsecurity posted:I've been playing 8XL on Steam is there a good source of information, I can't find a decent wiki for this. Like what does leadership levels actually do Leadership levels increase the total allowed Fee of your bodyguards. At leadership 99, you can have any three characters as bodyguards.
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Policenaut posted:Everyone in Jin looks like they stepped out of the future. They're all so weird and out there, carrying weapons which most other factions never have and playing so differently. My personal fan theory is the reason Guo Huai has a loving machine gun/cannon in the times of ancient China is that Warriors Orochi is canon to the Dynasty Warriors games and the people of the future gave him that technology, and he kept it when they were all returned to their original times. quote:The cast size is smaller so they make up for it by giving everyone more unique stuff I guess you're talking about 8, I can only speak to 7 and Warriors Orochi 3 where the only ones that really had unique weapons were Zhong Hui, Deng Ai, and Guo Huai. And now that I think about it, it still didn't make any sense to remove Zuo Ci from 7 for purposes of "realism" when Zhong Hui has actual flying swords. Like they don't even make any attempt to explain it away, he just has swords he psychically controls or something.
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