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Libluini posted:I was honestly surprised when recently (months ago?) Burschenschaften appeared in the news because of some sort of Nazi-scandal. The last time I heard about them was in history books - I thought it was something of the distant past! Man, apparently I'm living in the modern part of the country.
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Lunar Suite posted:Other than being wrong about everything, is there anything noteworthy? Well, I came across this wonderful infographic on their website. Seems BüSo insanity extends beyond the political and into the metaphysical, featuring gems like "Energy fluency density: The deliberate anti-entropy of mankind". I don't quite get it, but apparently permanent economic growth is the only way to stop the heat death of the universe, and if we don't grow then time will start to run backward. Can't make this up.
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DominoDancing posted:Is joining a Burschenschaft or Verbindung REALLY going to help you that much? By this point, their reputation is so tainted that I would seriously question employing someone who was a member if I had the choice. Then again, I'm probably moving in the wrong circles and work in the wrong field in the first place. I don't think I knewa single member of a Burschenschaft when I went to university. The local K.D.St.V where I live has a pretty impressive setup networking-wise and my father, despite being from a completely different place and out of school for 45 years, is referred to as an "Alter Hase" (which is a term of reverence apparently) and has given out several referrals to internships/jobs and such over the past 10 years, exclusively based on one of his Kartellbrüder (whom he has met maybe once) saying "listen, there's this guy in the CV where you live, great kid, good grades, industrious fella, studies XYZ, anything you could do for him?", so you can absolutely get something out of it career-wise. It's just kinda weird in this day and age that my dad, a guy that is usually reservedly skeptical in most manners, does stuff with such blind trust for people he barely knows, based solely on the facts that a) they are Kartellbrüders in good standing and b) someone did this for him when he was coming up. Another really weird thing that happened back in the day when my sister still lived here: Once or twice per year there'd be functions/balls/socially festive stuff that my dad would be invited to and brought my sister along. He'd dress up and go there "in voller Wix" (  ), you know, couleur and all, he was announced as "<insert like four different prefixes/titles> <name> of <bunch of regional suffixes for house XYZ he was from> and daughter!" upon entry (as were all non-local alte Hasen) by a young "Fuchs" that did nothing else the entire evening...you know, a literal loving herald.The second the introductions and casual opening smalltalk was over, he hosed off with the other old geezers to smoke cigars, dring cognac and talk old-man stuff and my sister was escorted around the entire evening by two strapping young fellas whose only job for the night was to wine, dine and entertain her as good gentlemen would be expected to. I cannot put in words how smitten as gently caress she was by all that chivalry. She went on and on about it for half of the next sunday's lunch and when I questioned the morality of leaving his daughter with a bunch of people he's never met that kept bringing her drinks, he just looked over knowingly, grinned and said something along the lines of "they wouldn't dare".  Oh, there's also Burschenschaften who are perfectly okay with not just having prerequisites like "you must be THIS deutsch to join", but also harboring openly racist shitlords. The Leipziger Burschenschaft Allemania here had a couple of their guys at one of my club's orientation events 5 years ago and they were pretty chill dudes to chat with, just with those weird hats, but nothing offensive, really. As the evening progresses, there's this black dude at their table (started as a freshman for an MBA here, originally from Morocco, if I recall correctly) inquiring into Studentenverbindungen/Burschenschaften so they chat him up a little bit about what they do, who they are, what makes Burschenschaften so great and all, basically they give him the whole nine yards. At the conclusion of their little Werbegespräch, they casually finish off that he'd obviously not qualify for membership, but he understands this, of course, right? They basically went "bitte keine Neger" on him and did so in the most casual, even jovial manner. 
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Also, Burschenschaften and Studentenverbindungen are different organizations with a different historical background and therefore mindset. Confusing the two might result in a very long and unpleasant rant by a Studentenverbindungs member who really does not like to be called a Burschenschaftler. It also should be mentioned that every Catholic Studentenverbindung is a non-fencing one, due to the Catholic church disapproving of university fencing. And anecdotally, all Studentenverbindungs people I've met have been pretty chill guys. While the Burschenschaftler organizations were usually to incompetent to wear their own uniforms properly even on their promotional photographs. Judging from some of their CVs they are also a bunch of pinko commie conscious objectors, which I find extremely hilarious from a group which likes to point out their patriotism.
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Randler posted:Also, Burschenschaften and Studentenverbindungen are different organizations with a different historical background and therefore mindset. Confusing the two might result in a very long and unpleasant rant by a Studentenverbindungs member who really does not like to be called a Burschenschaftler. Don't you have to have served to gain entry into some/most Burschenschaften? Did they change that when the pussy communists in Government ended the draft?
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Randler posted:For networking purposes, joining the JU is probably not that useful unless you're actually active within either the organization itself or at the muncipal level. It'd probably be more useful to join a Burschenschaft or Studentenverbindung if you want to boost your career. (Or a Schützenverein.) Schützenverein? Really? Around here everyone is a member of at least the local Schützenverein (plus usually a few more from surrounding cities/villages to increase drinking opportunities). All that means is, that you prance around in a silly uniform for 3 days a year and get drunk like no tommorrow. I wouldn't say that a Schützenverein gives you good networking opportunities. Maybe other parts of germany have different "Schützenwesen" and stronger hierarchies, but the concept of getting ahead just because you are a member of a Schützenverein looks strange to me.
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Networking isn't about getting ahead because you're a member of a certain club. It's about getting more opportunities to get to know some people and then maybe leverage that. So basically any decently sized organization or club can be useful for that, not only high profile stuff like Rotary, Lion's or various other entrepreneur networks.
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I think it's cool that Burschenschaften are keeping all those silly old traditions alive but unfortunately they are also often keeping 19th century worldviews alive so no sympathies there.
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May 21, 2014 12:46
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Counterpoint: 19th century Germany beat the French and did not include Bavaria. 
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Randler posted:Also, Burschenschaften and Studentenverbindungen are different organizations with a different historical background and therefore mindset. Confusing the two might result in a very long and unpleasant rant by a Studentenverbindungs member who really does not like to be called a Burschenschaftler. Burschenschafter, not Burschenschaftler.
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elbkaida posted:I think it's cool that Burschenschaften are keeping all those silly old traditions alive but unfortunately they are also often keeping 19th century worldviews alive so no sympathies there.
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Wow, life imitates art: http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/114-tag-im-nsu-prozess-in-muenchen-streit-um-bekleidung-des-angeklagten-andre-e-/9927790.html Tagesspiegel posted:Militärisch anmutende Cargohosen, Kapuzenpullis, schwarze Lederweste – das Outfit des Angeklagten im NSU-Prozess signalisiert einen Hang zum rockerhaften Machogehabe. Am Mittwoch setzte André E. im Saal 101 des Oberlandesgerichts München noch eins drauf. 
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Smirr posted:Wow, life imitates art:
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Schützenvereine are the scum of the earth and their backwards group bullying lead directly to the suicide of a good friend of mine in his childhood because he was gay. gently caress the Bauern and Dorftrottel, I was happy to get the gently caress out of there. Here is a tip: If you think this poo poo is harmless, try being a non-hetero or non-white person. Those kind of "Christian" or militaristic organizations are always the creation of destructive group dynamics towards these people literally everywhere in the world - yes even in Germany. And I might have had a different education, but that marching and saluting always felt weird as poo poo to me and I wanted no part in it. Same as pledge of allegiance when I was in the USA. It's creepy. Edit: And I enjoyed getting drunk like every teen living in a small town without anything to do. But you can just go into the "Zelt" afterwards and do something non-fascist before then? Boner Slam fucked around with this message at 19:06 on May 21, 2014 |
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Cingulate posted:Why does he get a tattoo in the language of Treacherous Albion? I believe the correct word is Perfidious.
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I'm moving from Berlin to Darmstadt next week, and apparently my American driver's license is no longer valid in Germany (though I was assured by the car rental agency that it would be when I inquired about renting a van to move my things). The time it takes to get the license transferred over from my state in the US to a German license is longer than the time I have to move, so that's not an option. Does anyone know of a large, reliable moving company that would be able to move my poo poo from Berlin to Darmstadt? I don't have a ton of stuff, but it's roughly enough to fill up a normal-sized van.
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Randler posted:Counterpoint: 19th century Germany beat the French and did not include Bavaria. 19th century you say? If you are referring to the Napoleonic era, then it was hardly "Germany" that beat them, but a larger coalition. If you meant the events of 1870-1, then the bavarians tagged along: 
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My only experience with Burschenschaften is this flyer I got in the mail sometime last year. They're also the ones who tried to introduce an Ariernachweis a few years back  
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Those students and their 6 inch mohawks all over the place. 
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konsum posted:My only experience with Burschenschaften is this flyer I got in the mail sometime last year. They're also the ones who tried to introduce an Ariernachweis a few years back Weird, I just opened that picture and my dog started going absolutely batshit. I wonder why that is. Fake edit: Ahahaha, I just looked up their website and they're still doing compulsory Mensur. You can't make that poo poo up: Their FAQ posted:Warum fechtet Ihr?
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Nothing wrong with two manly men smashing their hard blades against one another.  My Lovely Horse posted:Those students and their 6 inch mohawks all over the place. I've seen at least one law student looking like that, though.
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konsum posted:My only experience with Burschenschaften is this flyer I got in the mail sometime last year. They're also the ones who tried to introduce an Ariernachweis a few years back
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Cingulate posted:The use of Comic Sans, the two different type settings for the URLs, and the different sizes of the rectangles left and right bother me to an unreasonable degree. Regressive idiots are dumb and have no taste, news at eleven.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Torrannor posted:Unfortunately I cannot help you with the moving company, but couldn't you have a friend drive you in a rented van? Could, but none of my friends here have drivers' licenses.  Going to the Bürgeramt today to see if I can get some kind of temporary thing or something, idk.
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7% for the AfD. extra3 is already joking: What do you call the country to the right of Germany? France.
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Lunar Suite posted:extra3 is already joking: What do you call the country to the right of Germany? France. Sorry, but how does that joke work in any way? This doesn't really make Germany move to the left.. So unless the AfD plans to annex Spain, I'm afraid, this joke falls flat. EDIT: Unless you mean to say that 7% is little and France moved way farther right. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 18:04 on May 26, 2014 |
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Lunar Suite posted:7% for the AfD. Seven percent is basically nothing considering that the AfD is the only German party with eurosceptism as its main selling point and they still profit from being a new on the field, therefore not having been able to self-sabotage like other parties that tried to become a second conservative party besides the CDU/CSU behemoth. Truth is, Europe is still an enormous net benefit for Germany, despite various institutional failure and political slights by Brussels against Berlin. So I don't really see eurosceptism taking hold in Germany for the forseeable future. 
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Air is lava! posted:Sorry, but how does that joke work in any way? Seeing as how the French ultra nationalist right wing party won the European elections...
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Randler posted:Seven percent is basically nothing considering that the AfD is the only German party with eurosceptism as its main selling point and they still profit from being a new on the field, therefore not having been able to self-sabotage like other parties that tried to become a second conservative party besides the CDU/CSU behemoth. Truth is, Europe is still an enormous net benefit for Germany, despite various institutional failure and political slights by Brussels against Berlin. So I don't really see eurosceptism taking hold in Germany for the forseeable future. And the AfD is downright pro-EU compared to the wackos in UKIP or Front National. It's not a mistake that they want to join with the British Tories in the EU parliament, they are much closer to them than to the "real" anti-EU parties.
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Randler posted:Seven percent is basically nothing considering that the AfD is the only German party with eurosceptism as its main selling point and they still profit from being a new on the field, therefore not having been able to self-sabotage like other parties that tried to become a second conservative party besides the CDU/CSU behemoth. Truth is, Europe is still an enormous net benefit for Germany, despite various institutional failure and political slights by Brussels against Berlin. So I don't really see eurosceptism taking hold in Germany for the forseeable future. Yeah, european politics is pretty much the one distinct subject that the AfD can capitalise on. So it's not surprising that they'd have a rather large turnout both among swing voters as well as their base, whereas the other parties' bases were probably rather  because it was "only" the european elections. I really wouldn't expect them to do anything near as well on a national basis unless something dramatic happens.
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Don't worry, if the AfD is slacking off we still have the good old regular rightwing extremists to keep things lively: http://blog.zeit.de/stoerungsmelder/2014/05/26/neonazis-ueberfallen-wahlparty-im-dortmunder-rathaus_16406
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And the award for "Highest transparency during an election" goes to... Cologne!
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The almost EU wide shift to the right is pretty worrying, though. Well, and the UKIP thing. I'm one of those darn immigrants they want to get rid off - I'm just about to graduate university. If I don't find a job within six months, off I go, back to Well, one more year and I can apply for permanent residence. But yeah... Is this a result of the terrible (<50%) turnout of voters? (To my shame, I didn't either). Or has the economic crisis once more given a veneer of credulity to the brownshirts, when they claim they can totally fix it with a little FYGM?
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Randler posted:And the award for "Highest transparency during an election" goes to... Cologne! I don't get it.
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KaneTW posted:I don't get it. the screens are facing the wrong way
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 Just about poo poo myself with joy this morning when I spotted this.
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Lunar Suite posted:But yeah... Is this a result of the terrible (<50%) turnout of voters? (To my shame, I didn't either). Or has the economic crisis once more given a veneer of credulity to the brownshirts, when they claim they can totally fix it with a little FYGM? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3624340
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My Lovely Horse posted:
This is one of the most awesome things ever happened during an european election. I nearly pissed myself when I read what their goals for this session would be. Handelsblatt posted:„Ich werde mich vier Wochen lang intensiv auf meinen Rücktritt vorbereiten“, sagt er. Der Grund: Die Partei will jeden Monat ein neues Mitglied der Partei nach Brüssel schicken. Of course this won't really work as the parliament has to vote in order to allow someone to resign and that allowance thing is only available after being active for one year, but it's one of the most funniest idea someone ever had. 
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Honj Steak posted:the screens are facing the wrong way Does it really matter? You'll be coverting that side with your body anyway.
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