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The Gentleman posted:Oh cool, a good time to host another newbie game. I volunteer to play MA Ermor in the newbie game to give it that extra bit of authenticity.
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Neruz posted:I volunteer to play MA Ermor in the newbie game to give it that extra bit of authenticity. Ill be honest I have it in my mind that you need to be Ma Ermor in at least one newbie game per person.
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May 27, 2014 03:31
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Neruz posted:I volunteer to play MA Ermor in the newbie game to give it that extra bit of authenticity. Literally undead hitler
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May 27, 2014 04:07
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Neruz posted:I volunteer to play MA Ermor in the newbie game to give it that extra bit of authenticity. Only if you take a blood mage pretender, suicide it to indies on turn 1, and take misfortune 3.
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May 27, 2014 05:32
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You don't get the Genuine Dominions 4 Newbie Game Experience without some fucker playing MA Ermor.
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Neruz posted:I volunteer to play MA Ermor in the newbie game to give it that extra bit of authenticity.   
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May 27, 2014 14:07
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Neruz: The Movie posted: quote: quote:
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May 27, 2014 18:49
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Decrepus posted:I have uncovered a relic which may men have searched for. This is the the holy grail, the final answer to the question: "Why does it matter if I only play single-player?" Die
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May 27, 2014 18:55
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Smerdyakov posted:This is the the holy grail, the final answer to the question: "Why does it matter if I only play single-player?" Die My favorite part is the people saying it's a solid enough strat, just needs a little tweaking. Also, he's playing with indies turned all the way up, which neuters the AI.
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May 27, 2014 22:39
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Speleothing posted:My favorite part is the people saying it's a solid enough strat, just needs a little tweaking. Theoretically, his strategy could work in MP, for a more relaxed sort of play: Since you already know you'll never catch up after 10+ turns of sitting on your rear end, you can go to AI right away. Just sit back and relax. It's gonna be allright (for the other players). Alternative version: Handycap for players that are just too good. Edit: Impressions from Literally, the game with far too much death going on. (Thanks, Lemuria.)  The death of diplomacy. Good night, sweet voidlord and may abominations carry you to your rest. Squid status: Floating belly-up. Fish status: 100% Fish and chips. Lemuria has conquered the ocean. gently caress. But I have to hand it to the R'lyeh AI, it took one good look at the hordes of nasty wet ghosts flooding it's territory and it went after my coastal provinces instead. Complete with it's entourage of icky monsters. Also I think AI Petala in the north is now larger then it was before it's player went AI. 
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May 27, 2014 22:56
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Signed up for the Goon Gaming Service under the same ID as my SA Name. Want to signup for Turkish Delight but I am literally THAT noob atm :P
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May 28, 2014 00:00
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THAT noob is exactly what noob games are for. When you gently caress up something stupid and cast your nation to utter ruin in an instant you aren't the only one doing it.
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May 28, 2014 00:12
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As someone who played a lot of (mostly useless) single player before diving into mplayer, once cool thing to keep in mind is that this game can actually be fun to lose. My first loss involved summoning a blood vortex on my own capitol and then grabbing all of the archdevils in a plot to firestorm the army that came to finish me off. My second loss involved putting up astral corruption and then casting horror seed at every army I could see, enemy and allied. It's kinda fun to figure out "what insanely dickish thing can I do now" instead of going AI because you lost your mercenary wager or whatever. Also, once you realize you've probably lost you magically stop caring about silly things like "managing unrest" or building a mathematically optimal site searching algorithm. It's quite nice
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TheresNoThyme posted:As someone who played a lot of (mostly useless) single player before diving into mplayer, once cool thing to keep in mind is that this game can actually be fun to lose. My first loss involved summoning a blood vortex on my own capitol and then grabbing all of the archdevils in a plot to firestorm the army that came to finish me off. My second loss involved putting up astral corruption and then casting horror seed at every army I could see, enemy and allied. It's kinda fun to figure out "what insanely dickish thing can I do now" instead of going AI because you lost your mercenary wager or whatever. The funny thing is, if you had cast regular Send Horror instead of Horror Seed you would have probably won that game since Astral Corruption + Horrors is one of the best strats in the game by a large margin. Also you're focusing on blood magic. Good job! You won't be a noob for long at that rate!
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You probably should have mentioned that in the GGS, because some fucker did, in fact, pick Ermor. (In their defense, I think it is a real, legit newbie and not Neruz)
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May 28, 2014 04:50
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I can live with it if everyone else can. Edit: I should probably qualify that statement by mentioning that I'm playing probably the best nation in MA to fight Ermor with. The Sharmat fucked around with this message at 05:45 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 05:29
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Yeah I wouldn't mind having a complete and utter newbie playing Ermor. Dom 10 + purgatory = ded skellington Of course, I say this having never faced an actual real person playing Ermor, so I've got that going for me.
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May 28, 2014 13:48
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Problem is MA Ermor sucks to play against and sucks to play as. It sucks.
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ChickenWing posted:Yeah I wouldn't mind having a complete and utter newbie playing Ermor. Dom 10 + purgatory = ded skellington Don't Do It, It Isn't Fun
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May 28, 2014 16:35
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I'm just going to start my first Dom 4 game as MA Tien Chi in a multiplayer game. I'm guessing they're still a communion heavy nation with average troops, nothing worth giving a bless to and no special strategies to keep in mind?
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May 28, 2014 18:00
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team overhead smash posted:I'm just going to start my first Dom 4 game as MA Tien Chi in a multiplayer game. Enchantment 4 - > Flaming Arrows it is a solid early-midgame research goal for any nation that can cast it. 50-100 archers behind a sizable army will hurt your oponnent VERY much. If it's your first game this is a solid core spell for your battles. Your sacred cavalry is quite baller with a bless, but I'm not entirely sure I'd go for a bless with them. If you do, W9 will make your cavalry real damage powerhouses. Either get a Dragon pretender(Awake and 9 Dominion for Awe), get a W9 bless for your cavalry or full on scales.
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May 28, 2014 18:40
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I think everyone should play against Ermor at least once, just so that they vow never, ever to play MA again as a nation that doesn't at least stand a chance against zombie skeleton popkill death. And then completely forget they made that vow, and have to learn that lesson all over again  (and also forget that LA isn't safe either )
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May 28, 2014 18:49
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OK after eyeing up this game for a long long time the sale finally made me crack and buy it. I'm at a conference though til Saturday, am I still good to get into the newb game after that? I'll be completely 100% new to the game so it should be fairly hilarious 
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May 28, 2014 18:51
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thorsilver posted:OK after eyeing up this game for a long long time the sale finally made me crack and buy it. I'm kind of in the same boat, with the added bonus of having multiple weddings (including my own) to go to this summer so play time will be limited
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May 28, 2014 19:46
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The newb game is filled for now, but I might put up a new one if my computer can handle this one well.
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May 28, 2014 21:05
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Gotten really into Dwarf Fortress lately and while Dominions is not the same kind of game, it does share the ridiculous depth which is great. Might have to pick this up now that it is 50% off.
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Anyone have any ideas as to what I can accomplish with lowish research casters that are guaranteed water? EA TCs masters of the way seem like they don't have much going for them until you get much higher levels of research - the most use I can see getting out of them is dessication and cold bolt.
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Give em a gem and have them summon a water elemental.
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Water or Ice elemental. Low research water isn't that impressive imo. Later on though you get Frozen Heart which can be cool.
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Decrepus posted:Water or Ice elemental. Low research water isn't that impressive imo. Later on though you get Frozen Heart which can be cool. I'm looking forward to frozen heart with great anticipation, but yeah at this point my mages are pretty much relegated to blessings and dessication (which will hopefully turn out to be useful vs mictlan's jags).
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Just don't throw your mages away so that way you have them to defend the cap once you are thrown back to it.
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Decrepus posted:Just don't throw your mages away so that way you have them to defend the cap once you are thrown back to it. A thousand times this. Not only do you need a good research stack to make all your combat mages more relevant, they can also turn the whole game around during a cap siege if your opponent has gotten overconfident. Adding 1-2 low level mages to an army generally doesn't add much punch until mid to late game, but a stack of 30+ of them can wipe out a lot of armies without sustaining many casualties.
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EA TC's Master of the Way are honestly never useful. Sorry, they just aren't. W1 S1 can be used as communion mages, but the rest need a hell of a lot of expensive help to go anywhere. Your real combat powerhouses are the Celestial Masters, which can cast Acid Rain in a pinch, if nothing else, and communion for fire and lightning and astral. Masters of the Five Elements can sometimes Earthpower or Phoenix Power to combat usefulness, too. In fact, I'd say about 70% of nations have lovely non-combat second tier mages. That's just how Dominions is; your mages that aren't top tier usually can't cut it as combat mages. If you need to delay jags using Masters of the Way, you need to look at their randoms for the right spells. S1 can do Body Ethereal, which is useful vs jags if they don't have Fire or Death blesses. N1 can cast Swarm or Tangle Vines. A1 might be worth boosting for Freezing Mist, but generally speaking Orb Lightning is the best you'll get out of them. W2 might try Wave Warriors, or at lower research Numbness. Mostly though, you'll have to rely on as many composite bows and indep short bows as you can gather, and maybe Flaming Arrows if you have Ench 4.
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TheDemon posted:EA TC's Master of the Way are honestly never useful. Sorry, they just aren't. W1 S1 can be used as communion mages, but the rest need a hell of a lot of expensive help to go anywhere. Your real combat powerhouses are the Celestial Masters, which can cast Acid Rain in a pinch, if nothing else, and communion for fire and lightning and astral. Masters of the Five Elements can sometimes Earthpower or Phoenix Power to combat usefulness, too. Somehow I figured that would be the case. I figure in the end the S1 guys will be good communion fodder and the rest will be mass-recruitable research bitches. Celestial Masters are cool, but the StR is murder. I've been mass-recruiting Mot5E - I figure most of them can get a useful 2/1 evocation and once I have more celestial masters I can craft a whole ton of slave/crystal matricies for communions. In fact, I really don't ever plan on taking a lot of CMs out of my cap, and just leaving them on summon/craft duty.
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Never underestimate the power of slime against melee troops. It breaks up formations and renders everything it hits pretty much useless in melee.
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Frozen Heart is awesome but has a few pitfalls. It's weak against the Undead, and Thugs with Frost Brands are going to shrug it off or require a ton of Frozen Heart to kill. Otherwise, it's an awesome way to get value out of your labrats. Basic Water Elementals are good. Water Bracelets can be made very affordably with Dwarven Hammers, bringing your 1W guys up to 2W for things like Cleansing Water and Rain, or over-gemming into W3 magic like bigger elementals and Falling Frost.
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dis astranagant posted:Never underestimate the power of slime against melee troops. It breaks up formations and renders everything it hits pretty much useless in melee. I Second this. This is the reason you build the W researchers as Caelum. I'm also curious what kind of scales you went for in the Court of Life game Nuclearmonkee , F9W9 seems like the best bless ever, but you can't get it witgout trash scales? M_Bison fucked around with this message at 12:15 on May 30, 2014 |
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M_Bison posted:I Second this. This is the reason you build the W researchers as Caelum. Imprisoned Statue of War f9w9e2. Dom 8, Order3, Sloth2, Heat1, Death2, Luck0, Drain1. Obviously not kitfox scales. I gambled on being able to expand very well in the early game to outrun my scales and get golds, which happened. Could also do misfortune but I generally try to avoid that unless my nation would be hurt by death. In this case all of my mages were strong N mages and not old so there was no reason not to. Nuclearmonkee fucked around with this message at 17:09 on May 30, 2014 |
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Signed up for the Goon Gaming Service under the same ID as my SA Name. Look forward to the new game after being away for a while.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Could also do misfortune but I generally try to avoid that unless my nation would be hurt by death. In this case all of my mages were strong N mages and not old so there was no reason not to. I don't get it, does the death scale affect aging?
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