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Aphrodite posted:In the new continuity I guess Wolverine doesn't get adamantium at all.
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achillesforever6 posted:Maybe he just decides to go anyway so he doesn't screw up time more. He can't even do that because he doesn't become aware he even time traveled for like 30 years.
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May 27, 2014 04:36
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Aphrodite posted:He can't even do that because he doesn't become aware he even time traveled for like 30 years. Didn't Stryker capture him at the end of the film after he pulled him up from the river? Is there some other possible interpretation of that scene I'm missing or something?
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May 27, 2014 07:17
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That was Mystique as Stryker, I thought. However, with Apocalypse seemingly the focus of the next film, it's possible they'll look to using him as a way of putting the Adamantium (back) in Logan as they did with the comics several years ago. It seems like the film pushed that future Logan had his metal claws back, but that might have been something Magneto did for/to him in the future. One thing that really struck me was how 'upbeat' the ending was, and part of me wonders if they're doing that to push the X-men as an openly 'superhero' group in future films ala The Avengers/Marvel Studios. They've had about half-dozen films of mutants in a world that hates and fears them, so would it be time to turn that around to have the X-Men/mutants existing as less a extremely opposed 'tolerated' community in the mainstream due to events in the film?
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May 27, 2014 07:19
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Dacap posted:Sunspot. I wish they had figured out a way to do CG Kirby dots for him though
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May 27, 2014 09:52
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irlZaphod posted:Uh...Sunspot doesn't light himself on fire. Or project fire. Technically, they're solar flares.
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May 27, 2014 10:09
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irlZaphod posted:Uh...Sunspot doesn't light himself on fire. Or project fire. Sometimes he has a fiery glow around him. He was sorta "black but with fire" in the movie:  Somewhat, at least. Compare Human Torch:  Well, they tried. It looked cool but I sure didn't identify him as Sunspot based on that visual either.
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May 27, 2014 11:00
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Dude's got cute little solar flares coming off him.
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May 27, 2014 11:04
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Wait was that seriously supposed to be Sunspot? I genuinely just assumed it was Sunfine.
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May 27, 2014 11:18
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irlZaphod posted:Wait was that seriously supposed to be Sunspot? I genuinely just assumed it was Sunfine. The main tip-off was that he was Mexican, not Japanese.
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May 27, 2014 11:31
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XboxPants posted:The main tip-off was that he was Mexican, not Japanese. Also he was barely on screen out of "costume" and I don't remember him having much in the way of lines.
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May 27, 2014 11:40
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irlZaphod posted:That's not much of a tip-off considering Sunspot is Brazilian. To be honest I actually had no idea what ethnicity he was other than "not Asian" and had to look up his actor.
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May 27, 2014 11:46
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After Ratner, I'll take "looks right, and mostly has the right powers" over "let's use a name from the comics, nerds won't care if they look, act or do anything like they do in the comics, right?". Bishop and Blink looked dead-on, and their powers worked pretty much as they're meant to. Blink even had her knife/crystal thingy she uses to throw her portals, and they made an appropriate sound. As an Exiles fan, I'm sad she didn't get more lines, but I'll take it.
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May 27, 2014 13:15
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Gaz-L posted:After Ratner, I'll take "looks right, and mostly has the right powers" over "let's use a name from the comics, nerds won't care if they look, act or do anything like they do in the comics, right?". Bishop and Blink looked dead-on, and their powers worked pretty much as they're meant to. Blink even had her knife/crystal thingy she uses to throw her portals, and they made an appropriate sound. Yeah pretty much all the future mutants were great IMO. Bishop was pretty cool overall but I did think his dumb gun thing was dumb. No problems with anyone of the other future-cast adaptations though. I mean yeah it doesn't make any sense for Kitty to have time travel powers but it allowed for lots of cool poo poo to happen and it's basically just inherently so over-the-top that it's fine for them to not even bother trying to explain it. I mean I couldn' tell at all what Warpath's powers were just from the film (other than senses) but on the other hand, I also didn't care at all so that one worked itself out.
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May 27, 2014 13:33
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If Kitty can phase physical matter through other physical matter, of course her secondary mutation would be to phase the mind (an intangible thing) through time (another intangible thing). I wonder if this will be incorporated into her comic book version, like Toad's powers.
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May 27, 2014 14:07
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Gaz-L posted:As an Exiles fan, I'm sad she didn't get more lines, but I'll take it. She's apparently in the sequel.
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May 27, 2014 14:12
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They should have just gotten Colossus to send Wolverine's mind back. "Wait, Piotr, you can turn your body into metal and you can phase minds back through time? How did we not know about it until now?" "You never asked, tovarisch."
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May 27, 2014 14:17
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They should have just used Rachel Summers and explained her backstory, because it all would have made a ton more sense.
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May 27, 2014 14:35
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^^^Th-that's a joke, right? XboxPants posted:Yeah pretty much all the future mutants were great IMO. Bishop was pretty cool overall but I did think his dumb gun thing was dumb. No problems with anyone of the other future-cast adaptations though. I mean yeah it doesn't make any sense for Kitty to have time travel powers but it allowed for lots of cool poo poo to happen and it's basically just inherently so over-the-top that it's fine for them to not even bother trying to explain it. Warpath was a little cringe-worthy, in that his powers seemed to be Super-Native-Americanness. He can see and track real good! He has knives!
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May 27, 2014 14:36
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irlZaphod posted:They should have just used Rachel Summers and explained her backstory, because it all would have made a ton more sense. Both her parents are well dead in the movie timeline. Also Rachel Summers backstory is probably the most confusing backstory of all. Gaz-L posted:
So, pretty much like the comics then.
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May 27, 2014 14:54
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I was cool with Kitty's new powers because Rachel Summers suuuuuuuuucks. exit: actually I though she was pretty cool in Rise And Fall of the Shi'ar Empire, but I'm the last living human who likes that story arc.
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May 27, 2014 14:56
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We all know it should have been Sage
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May 27, 2014 14:57
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Gaz-L posted:Warpath was a little cringe-worthy, in that his powers seemed to be Super-Native-Americanness. He can see and track real good! He has knives! It can only go uphill after Darwin. Maybe they will get Forge for the next one. To think of it, the future team in DOFP was exemplary Multicultural Claremontian Team. fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 15:01 on May 27, 2014 |
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May 27, 2014 14:58
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Lobok posted:They should have just gotten Colossus to send Wolverine's mind back. It is simple, tovarich. I simply grab you and spin you around so fast you go faster than light and then let go at the right time, throwing you through time. This explains why Logan is the only one who can take the stress of faster than light centrifugal force.
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May 27, 2014 15:08
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What kind of odds can we get on an X-base in Australia along with a Gateway appearance? EDIT: Oh! And a table with everyone's face on it.
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May 27, 2014 15:36
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Kingtheninja posted:What kind of odds can we get on an X-base in Australia along with a Gateway appearance? Fox can have a movie with Gateway while Marvel can do one with Manifold. Really confuse people at home.
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May 27, 2014 16:15
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I will say I still really enjoy Hugh Jackman's brusque portrayal of Wolverine. Most of the stuff he's been in as that character has been terrible, and he's a foot too tall, but the way he throws out lines like "Aren't you gonna pick that poo poo up?" is great.
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May 27, 2014 17:06
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The more Jackman gravitates away from loner troubled badass and closer to grumpy dad of the group, the better.
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May 27, 2014 18:02
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I was pleasantly surprised that Wolverine didn't steal the focus from the rest of the cast. In fact, he's basically just another member of the team and I can't believe he wasn't the one to save the day in the end.
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May 27, 2014 18:15
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irlZaphod posted:They should have just used Rachel Summers and explained her backstory, because it all would have made a ton more sense. What is rachel summers. What is her backstory
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May 27, 2014 18:20
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Rita Repulsa posted:What is rachel summers. What is her backstory She is Jean and Scotts daughter from the Days of the future past future. She traveled back in time and joined the x-men. However, in the future she was brainwashed into hunting other mutants, and she was also possessed by the Phoenix. Also at some point she traveled again into the future to raise her half brother Cable (his mother was a clone of Jean)
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May 27, 2014 18:23
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The movie made the right call using Kitty and her here-to-fore limited time-mind phasing. Bringing in any new character or device just raises more questions than answers.
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May 27, 2014 18:28
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JediTalentAgent posted:That was Mystique as Stryker, I thought. Yeah, it was. And it made no sense. If it was just Stryker, it solves all the questions of how Wolverine would get his metal, etc. Instead, they went out of their way to create weird continuity/temporal problems for absolutely no reason at all.
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May 27, 2014 18:28
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There's no loving way Wolverine doesn't have an adamantium skeleton next time we see him. Weapon X is one of the defining parts of his character, it'd be like Cyclops suddenly able to control his eyeblasts.
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May 27, 2014 18:55
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Jagermonster posted:Yeah, it was. And it made no sense. If it was just Stryker, it solves all the questions of how Wolverine would get his metal, etc. Instead, they went out of their way to create weird continuity/temporal problems for absolutely no reason at all. They just want to make the movies more like the comics.
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May 27, 2014 20:14
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SlimGoodbody posted:They just want to make the movies more like the comics. That basically sums up DOFP in general, I think. I liked it, but seriously the whole thing is a classic comic book reboot storyline the likes of which I don't think movies have ever seen and it's hilarious that not only did they try it, but that it worked so well.
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May 27, 2014 20:24
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Lobok posted:The movie made the right call using Kitty and her here-to-fore limited time-mind phasing. Bringing in any new character or device just raises more questions than answers. There so little development with the anyone that isn't Mystique, Xavier, Magneto and Logan, especially with the future mutants. I still think just using Illyana as a replacement Kitty makes a bit more sense with her powers, though, since she's been shown to have time travel + teleportation powers. Either that or use a future Rogue that had become a repository of mutant powers she's absorbed through the years, giving her a unique combination of powers to pull off a time-traveling mind stunt that no one else could seems as simple enough explanation as Kitty's brainphasing. The actress that plays Rogue is more popular to the franchise than the one that played Kitty, and it's keeping with the idea of her power set a bit more, too. It also sort of keeps the theme of Logan/Rogue BFFs that the previous 2 Singer films sort of helped build for them and showing a continuation of the Bobby/Rogue relationship that the three previous films as a whole built up. Of course, Paquin might not have wanted to come back for a large supporting part in DoFP and was just content with a small cameo that nearly got cut, anyway. Magik might not have worked even if you replaced Blink with her as it would have put her in more a combat role when she needed to be stashed away in a protected area during the fight.
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May 27, 2014 21:10
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zoux posted:There's no loving way Wolverine doesn't have an adamantium skeleton next time we see him. Weapon X is one of the defining parts of his character, it'd be like Cyclops suddenly able to control his eyeblasts. Yeah that's my point - he will definitely have his adamantium next time we see him so the whole Stryker twist will make nerds (me) scratch their heads and complain that it doesn't make sense. Why couldn't Stryker just have found him?
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May 27, 2014 21:11
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JediTalentAgent posted:There so little development with the anyone that isn't Mystique, Xavier, Magneto and Logan, especially with the future mutants. I still think just using Illyana as a replacement Kitty makes a bit more sense with her powers, though, since she's been shown to have time travel + teleportation powers. Either that or use a future Rogue that had become a repository of mutant powers she's absorbed through the years, giving her a unique combination of powers to pull off a time-traveling mind stunt that no one else could seems as simple enough explanation as Kitty's brainphasing. I think you may be overthinking this and that still doesn't solve the problem of "90% of the people coming to see this have never read a comic book in their lives so do we want to spend a whole bunch of time introducing a character none of them have ever seen or do we just wanna have Kitty Pryde, played by bankable actress Ellen page, do it?"
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JediTalentAgent posted:There so little development with the anyone that isn't Mystique, Xavier, Magneto and Logan, especially with the future mutants. I still think just using Illyana as a replacement Kitty makes a bit more sense with her powers, though, since she's been shown to have time travel + teleportation powers. Either that or use a future Rogue that had become a repository of mutant powers she's absorbed through the years, giving her a unique combination of powers to pull off a time-traveling mind stunt that no one else could seems as simple enough explanation as Kitty's brainphasing. It was more that Kitty was the person sent back in time in the comic. Also Ellen Page is a bigger name now than Anna Paquin.
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