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Alligator Horse posted:What do you think of the speculation that has been made in e.g. The WaPo that--especially since there were more "sensible" ways to shuffle his cabinet--, Obama is trying to move Donovan into his inner circle as a way of using the Executive to carry out programs he expects he'll be unable to get to legislatively? Doesn't it seem like the whole thing is geared primarily towards buffing Castro's credentials for national politics during a time when it still seems like a long shot for a Democrat to win statewide office in Texas?
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Zwabu posted:Doesn't it seem like the whole thing is geared primarily towards buffing Castro's credentials for national politics during a time when it still seems like a long shot for a Democrat to win statewide office in Texas? That's been my feeling on it. Which isn't to say that Castro isn't possibly a good choice or that he won't do a good job, just that yeah, he has been tapped by the national party and for probably another decade at least there's only so much opportunity in Texas for a democrat when it comes to elected offices.
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May 26, 2014 19:13
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Having a Texan on the ticket might help shift Texas blue in the presidential election, which is pretty much an automatic win for a Democratic ticket assuming they don't alienate California or something.
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FAUXTON posted:Having a Texan on the ticket might help shift Texas blue in the presidential election, which is pretty much an automatic win for a Democratic ticket assuming they don't alienate California or something.
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May 26, 2014 19:25
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JT Jag posted:I'm not sure anything could pull Texas into the D column in a Presidential race... quite yet. Give it ten years. Of course, the same sort of vague rhetoric was employed for "can we have a black president". I think it could happen, though I agree it's still unlikely for a while. And having a candidate lose his home state would not be good in a presidential race. empty whippet box fucked around with this message at 20:16 on May 26, 2014 |
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May 26, 2014 20:13
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Warchicken posted:And having a candidate lose his home state would not be good in a presidential race. Bush lost Connecticut both times.
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May 26, 2014 20:20
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Joementum posted:Bush lost Connecticut both times. Yeah it's not a win/lose not good but it's still not good.
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May 26, 2014 20:23
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Warchicken posted:Yeah it's not a win/lose not good but it's still not good. Not sure what if any negative consequences would flow from it, national attitudes towards the parties are pretty baked in. I don't think there is any candidate in America right now who could make an uncompetitive state competitive.
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May 26, 2014 21:04
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Christie would make NJ competitive. Ditto Schweitzer (at the top of the ticket) and Montana.
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It isn't really about turning uncompetitive states into competitive ones, so much as making competitive states into potential locks. For instance, Jeb Bush would in all likelihood turn Florida, a purple state in presidential elections, into a solid red state.
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May 26, 2014 21:19
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Looks like Republican obstinacy at doing anything for the VA is coming to bite them in the rear end. Veterans Groups Lash Out at Republican Senator http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/27/us/veterans-groups-lash-out-at-republican-senator.html quote:
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May 26, 2014 22:44
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I'm so glad the GOP has moved over to the VA mess from Ben G. Hazi because even their own constituents won't ignore the Republican part in it.
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It'd be great if people would realize that the republicans are the party that supports our troops(' right to go gently caress themselves).
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May 26, 2014 23:45
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Joementum posted:Christie would make NJ competitive. Ditto Schweitzer (at the top of the ticket) and Montana. That's a theory but I kind of doubt it would work out that way in practice. Paul Ryan didn't move Wisconsin an inch. Edit: in the latest poll I could find Christie is down 10 points in NJ to Clinton, and this before he spends two years trying to out crazy Rick Santorum. I do think him getting in the race would be enough to convince the GOP to give NJ one more chance, which will be pretty funny given how much money they wasted there in the last few cycles. Schweitzer or a similar small state Governor would be an interesting experiment to see if the favourite son effect still has any validity, but it isn't one I expect to be carried out any time soon. DynamicSloth fucked around with this message at 00:33 on May 27, 2014 |
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May 27, 2014 00:14
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DynamicSloth posted:That's a theory but I kind of doubt it would work out that way in practice. Paul Ryan didn't move Wisconsin an inch. paul ryan was veep, and that poll was at the height of bridgegate i dont think anyone really cares about christie being a meanface in nj at the moment.
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May 27, 2014 00:42
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Is this VA thing something that will finally bring the republican starve-the-beast-slash-the-taxes bullshit to light for what it is? (I should just choose a drink now, right?)
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May 27, 2014 03:00
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SumYungGui posted:Is this VA thing something that will finally bring the republican starve-the-beast-slash-the-taxes bullshit to light for what it is? (I should just choose a drink now, right?) The Manhattan is the best whiskey cocktail yet known. v Ooh, I need to try this sometime. Hedera Helix fucked around with this message at 03:11 on May 27, 2014 |
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May 27, 2014 03:06
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Hedera Helix posted:The Manhattan is the best whiskey cocktail yet known. Good with rum if that's what you have, too.
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May 27, 2014 03:10
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According to my conservative mother-in-law the biggest issue with the VA thing is that Obama's apology didn't sound very genuine and that he probably does really care that much.
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FCKGW posted:According to my conservative mother-in-law the biggest issue with the VA thing is that Obama's apology didn't sound very genuine and that he probably does really care that much. This usually translates to "no, no, you're maintaining dignity and I wanted to see you grovel  "
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May 27, 2014 03:22
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Make a 9/11. It's a Manhattan (without ice) that you set on fire. It's Guiliani's favorite drink.
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May 27, 2014 03:40
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Shbobdb posted:Make a 9/11. It's a Manhattan (without ice) that you set on fire. It's Guiliani's favorite drink. This requires a liquor high enough in proof that it should disqualify the drinker 
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May 27, 2014 03:42
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mooyashi posted:This requires a liquor high enough in proof that it should disqualify the drinker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cask_strength
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loquacius posted:This usually translates to "no, no, you're maintaining dignity and I wanted to see you grovel
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May 27, 2014 03:46
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Joementum posted:Christie would make NJ competitive. How can you say this seriously since the bridge scandal and all that has followed? It's my understanding that Christie's approval and polling is WAY down in NJ and he would not necessarily win reelection there if another one was held. Are you saying this seriously?
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SumYungGui posted:Is this VA thing something that will finally bring the republican starve-the-beast-slash-the-taxes bullshit to light for what it is? (I should just choose a drink now, right?) Given the current make up of GOP politicians, chances are pretty good that insulting veterans in an incredibly media friendly way will happen. The question is if they can manage to really piss off the veteran groups in a way that actually costs them votes come November. That seems pretty unlikely, unfortunately.
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Gyges posted:Given the current make up of GOP politicians, chances are pretty good that insulting veterans in an incredibly media friendly way will happen. The question is if they can manage to really piss off the veteran groups in a way that actually costs them votes come November. That seems pretty unlikely, unfortunately. I have a hard time separating how baked-in peoples' political choices are in reality and how they are in my own paranoid, pessimistic head, but I feel like if they just spoke their true mind once about it they'd lose at least a few points.
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I suspect you would see a lot of conservatives shift blame onto "politicians" as a class and take it as more evidence that we need to vote Republican to tear down the government.
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Large segments of society still believe Republicans are the party of helping the troops despite the fact that they routinely move to cut their benefits and pay. It's something that the Democrats have really failed to capitalize on IMO seeing how easy it would be to point out how the right keeps loving over the troops.
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Mornacale posted:I suspect you would see a lot of conservatives shift blame onto "politicians" as a class and take it as more evidence that we need to vote Republican to tear down the government. This or, they'll say our nation has always dishonored our veterans, but especially that wily Democrat racist Wilson.
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Axetrain posted:Large segments of society still believe Republicans are the party of helping the troops despite the fact that they routinely move to cut their benefits and pay. It's something that the Democrats have really failed to capitalize on IMO seeing how easy it would be to point out how the right keeps loving over the troops.
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Wow, I'm at a wake for the weekend and despite a major news event and a fascinating NPR story that prompted a bunch of responses the thread is basically dead. Welp. 4 SCOTUS decisions just dropped and it looks like 2 of the 4 are a complete shot to the crotch for anyone hoping things will get better, and the others iffy. Using an IQ test to tell if someone is mentally retarded is out, though still no clarification of what is an acceptable measure to determine if you are violating Atkins v Virginia or not. The remaining one I'm not sure how it shakes out because I know sweet gently caress all about tribal law and native sovereignty. But the remaining 2 extend immunity of law enforcement and curtail common interpretations of the 1st and 4th amendment so there we are
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Oh, and the AP is reporting Obama is close to sending in military advisors to train the Syrian rebels. Because that has gone so well every time we've tried it in the past.
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Fried Chicken posted:Oh, and the AP is reporting Obama is close to sending in military advisors to train the Syrian rebels. I for one am looking forward to another Vietnam.
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Fried Chicken posted:Wow, I'm at a wake for the weekend and despite a major news event and a fascinating NPR story that prompted a bunch of responses the thread is basically dead. Welp. What was the NPR story?
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Fried Chicken posted:Oh, and the AP is reporting Obama is close to sending in military advisors to train the Syrian rebels. FYI we've been arming and training Syrian rebels in Jordan since last year.
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comes along bort posted:FYI we've been arming and training Syrian rebels in Jordan since last year. Speaking of poo poo shows that should never have started: http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/26/politics/cia-white-house/index.html Apparently the White House accidentally outed the top CIA official in Afghanistan. I can't wait for the usual suspects to call treason on this. "Valerie Plame? Who the hell is that?"
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zoux posted:What was the NPR story? "Guilty and Charged" was the broadcast, the column had a longer name. It was about how trying to make up revenues from top bracket tax cuts and the mentality of treating defendants as "consumers" had resulted in a massive shift downward of justice system expenses to a massive amount of fees that the poor often can't pay. So then they get tossed in prison even though debtors prisons are technically illegal
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Fried Chicken posted:
By "Law enforcement" you mean the Secret Service. At least I'm assuming you're talking about this one.
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Mayor Dave posted:I for one am looking forward to another Vietnam. There's going to be an ugly war regardless so if the world gets more pho bo vien out of it, that'd be a definite improvement.
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