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gently caress the ROW posted:If your brain was wired so that you were not in the right meat husk, wouldn't that mean your brain was malfunctioning in the first place. Since by the very facts & ownage of reality, you are in the same body from start to finish Different wiring doesn't mean malfunction automatically you loving retards. A constituent of basal ganglia is slighty different CLEARLY THIS MEANS YOU ARE NOT OF SOUND MIND AND CANNOT MAKE RATIONAL DECISIONS!
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psyopmonkey posted:Fat people who wanna be skinny go for a jog while eating less. Some people wanna be stronger and start body building. Some people dont want to be the gender they were born as and fix it. This is like the magazine game where out of three sentences, you pick the one that is insane
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Fireless Phoenix posted:Ya rly Fireless Phoenix posted:Except they don't so....................... what is this are you 8 years old on the internet for the first time you're not even making arguments you're just going 'NUH UH'
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gently caress the ROW posted:If your brain was wired so that you were not in the right meat husk, wouldn't that mean your brain was malfunctioning in the first place. Since by the very facts & ownage of reality, you are in the same body from start to finish Or it would mean your body is not right and your brain is. Seeing as there's a solution to occurrences of this I'm going to keep on transitioning.
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May 28, 2014 00:11
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Moridin920 posted:lol ok tell me more about brain mechanics Its easier for you to install horns than it is to look and be how I want.
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May 28, 2014 00:11
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psyopmonkey posted:Not at all. Sexuality and gender are separate things. Ive always been bi. I know sexuality and gender are separate and didn't expect you to turn bi. I was just curious if you had different tendencies at different times or anything since my amateur guess would be hormones might do stuff with attractiveness of people or whatever. Mrenda posted:Crazy isn't it? Denying a loving law of science! Next they'll be saying you can fly from New York to Paris despite loving gravity! Oh certainly a dirigible could be constructed large enough for the voyage but it would be ruinously expensive. The idea is outlandish poppycock.
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May 28, 2014 00:11
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psyopmonkey posted:Its easier for you to install horns than it is to look and be how I want. Obviously but it's just an example of how people should have control over their bodies regardless of whether or not other people think they are wrong for thinking that way.
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So, what I am saying is that I want to be nice and supportive to people, and it doesn't really matter to me whether troons are dramacrazy or just have a legit medical problem. I just want them to disavow rape by deception and to accept that I am going to use gender words according to how they make sense to me and not how they make sense to someone else's made up poo poo. kthx/
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i honestly feel bad for troons + troons friends/families and everyday i thank the skydaddy that i wasnt born messed up to be a troon. transitioning must be so hard; if my child wanted to transition, i'd feel like they murdered the boy/girl i knew and an impostor had replaced my sweet child 
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May 28, 2014 00:12
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Moridin920 posted:if I want to surgically alter my head to install horns I should be allowed to. We're ok with bodybuilders juicing, let people go in the opposite direction if they want.
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gently caress the ROW posted:If your brain was wired so that you were not in the right meat husk, wouldn't that mean your brain was malfunctioning in the first place. Since by the very facts & ownage of reality, you are in the same body from start to finish does it really matter if the solution in both cases is hormones/surgery/whatever else?
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May 28, 2014 00:13
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Mrenda posted:Or it would mean your body is not right and your brain is. Seeing as there's a solution to occurrences of this I'm going to keep on transitioning. Break this down for me. I'm really curious about the medical benefits of surgically altering humans to fit their internal perceptions of themselves, on how account of incredibly insane it sounds 
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May 28, 2014 00:13
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Sabel posted:Agreed. Agreed! Just no rape and no tumblrwords.
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Fireless Phoenix posted:i honestly feel bad for gays + gays friends/families and everyday i thank the skydaddy that i wasnt born messed up to be a gay.
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May 28, 2014 00:14
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Sabel posted:Agreed. 
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Nice try but that doesn't really work
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Maoist Pussy posted:So, what I am saying is that I want to be nice and supportive to people, and it doesn't really matter to me whether troons are dramacrazy or just have a legit medical problem. I just want them to disavow rape by deception and to accept that I am going to use gender words according to how they make sense to me and not how they make sense to someone else's made up poo poo. kthx/ i agree also dont force yourself on me as a NORMAL woman/man. troons in other communities (hijrahs for instance) are content to acknowledge themselves as aberrations
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Fireless Phoenix posted:Nice try but that doesn't really work lots of people will express the exact sentiment you do about gays. gj with the unintentional irony
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May 28, 2014 00:16
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gently caress the ROW posted:Break this down for me. I'm really curious about the medical benefits of surgically altering humans to fit their internal perceptions of themselves, on how account of incredibly insane it sounds Because it works when it comes to trans people. When people make that change they become happier and the problems previously either lessen or go away completely. The problems people report after transitioning are generally to do with how society treats them, people who are treated well live happy lives.
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May 28, 2014 00:16
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You can turn puberty on or off just by spending a few minutes meditating and really concentrating on it each day.
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May 28, 2014 00:17
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Mrenda posted:Because it works when it comes to trans people. When people make that change they become happier and the problems previously either lessen or go away completely. The problems people report after transitioning are generally to do with how society treats them, people who are treated well live happy lives. well apart from the 40% suicide rate, of course.
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May 28, 2014 00:18
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Effectronica posted:lots of people will express the exact sentiment you do about gays. gj with the unintentional irony maybe back when people had to lead double lives but not anymore. troons will always have the dual identity thing though since they make such a dramatic shift (by choice ofc). again, nice attempt there friend
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May 28, 2014 00:19
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circ dick soleil posted:You can turn puberty on or off just by spending a few minutes meditating and really concentrating on it each day. i like to go into Options -> Disable Puberty personally
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May 28, 2014 00:19
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Fireless Phoenix posted:maybe back when people had to lead double lives but not anymore. 
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May 28, 2014 00:20
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Trans people who lie and try to trick people are bad. People have absolute agency over their bodies. Medical professionals should help people to be happy and healthy. Compassion is important on all sides. Gender pronouns and special snowflake'ism shouldn't be forced; the idea of who you are at birth shouldnt be forced either.
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not sure how preventing your body from healing a wound between your legs by shoving a medical dildo up there is "healthy" but okay!
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May 28, 2014 00:22
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Fireless Phoenix posted:i like to go into Options -> Disable Puberty personally Ctrl shift esc Goto processes Kill process tree for puberty_male.exe
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May 28, 2014 00:23
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psyopmonkey posted:Ctrl shift esc puberty would probably run as a service tbh
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Fireless Phoenix posted:not sure how preventing your body from healing a wound between your legs by shoving a medical dildo up there is "healthy" but okay! Grea rebuttal. Very mature. 
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See, Sabel, I am the reasonable one.
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Sabel posted:You are slime. Thats not nice. Quit being a mean old hobo.
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Fireless Phoenix posted:i agree They're pretty much okay so long as they don't think they're people
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CountButtula posted:They're pretty much okay so long as they don't think they're people The DOD already stole my humanity, so im good.
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Moridin920 posted:Obviously but it's just an example of how people should have control over their bodies regardless of whether or not other people think they are wrong for thinking that way. You're a creepy mother fucker
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psyopmonkey posted:Grea rebuttal. Very mature. It is true though, its like the opposite of healthy although I personally could have lived without the mental image. FYI the people that resolve their mental illnesses that are co-morbid with 'gender dysphoria', which again is not even real, no longer have the completely insane problem of believing themselves in the wrong body. To be 100% clear, it is impossible, at this time, and forever, to be in the 'wrong' body. You can think you are, but actually, it's just your only body Moridin920 posted:Obviously but it's just an example of how people should have control over their bodies regardless of whether or not other people think they are wrong for thinking that way. 
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gently caress the ROW posted:It is true though, its like the opposite of healthy although I personally could have lived without the mental image. FYI the people that resolve their mental illnesses that are co-morbid with 'gender dysphoria', which again is not even real, no longer have the completely insane problem of believing themselves in the wrong body. To be 100% clear, it is impossible, at this time, and forever, to be in the 'wrong' body. You can think you are, but actually, it's just your only body Trying to find out if conversion therapy works for troons. Internet discussion wraps it up with conversion therapy for gay people which is pretty wtf
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gently caress the ROW posted:It is true though, its like the opposite of healthy although I personally could have lived without the mental image. FYI the people that resolve their mental illnesses that are co-morbid with 'gender dysphoria', which again is not even real, no longer have the completely insane problem of believing themselves in the wrong body. To be 100% clear, it is impossible, at this time, and forever, to be in the 'wrong' body. You can think you are, but actually, it's just your only body Im not in the wrong body. Im just changing the one I have to suit what I think it should be.
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psyopmonkey posted:Im not in the wrong body. Im just changing the one I have to suit what I think it should be. Same.
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psyopmonkey posted:Im not in the wrong body. Im just changing the one I have to suit what I think it should be. People can do what they like to themselves and should be free to do it, even if its dumb or crazy. As long as they don't burdern other people  But there's still this small matter of that extremely loving queer poo poo you said about giving kids hormones to avoid the 'forced change' of puberty
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