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Good lord I hate rebels. I had them destroy my steel mill which was literally about five blocks away from five army bases. Incidentally, I also had two rebel squads fend off three tank squads when the rebels had 60 attack and my tanks had something like 150. Also, I really wish they'd make trade ships just clip through each other instead of slowing down. I get the effect they were going for, but I've got a gridlock of about fifty ships in front of my city and it's a bit of an eyesore.
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Dirk the Average posted:Also, I really wish they'd make trade ships just clip through each other instead of slowing down. I get the effect they were going for, but I've got a gridlock of about fifty ships in front of my city and it's a bit of an eyesore.  Spread out your docks all around the island, dude. Don't make one mega city, you've got a whole tropical island you can populate and then oppress.
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May 28, 2014 16:27
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I would, but I wanted more trade ships. As it stands, I've used up around 75% of the beach. Regardless, the big problem with the clipping is that ships will slow down, but they'll never speed back up again. I've had isolated ships proceed along at a crawl even with nothing interfering with their movement. Then, of course, new ships run into the old buggy slow ships and slow down themselves, so the cycle just perpetuates itself. It doesn't even prevent clipping; there are so many ships that they all are clipping into each other and it's a bigger problem than it would be if they just never slowed down in the first place. It also doesn't help that all my docks (and all my buildings that aren't houses for that matter) are at maximum budget with a maxed out tycoon leader, so ships are arriving every 3 months or so and trade ships are arriving every month (if they could, at least, most of them are tied up in gridlock). I do need to learn to spread out more though. I tend to max out my population while using around 33% of the island. I think that's primarily because I tend to build a lot of my basic infrastructure in the colonial and early world wars era, so the limited access to cars means that I need to build a bit more compactly. Interesting note: my dynasty has two generals in it since one of them was obtained through an event that gave me a general specifically. I wonder if I can double up on tycoons or cheapskates. I think the best dynasty possible would be a dynasty full of tycoons or cheapskates. Full cheapskates would be something like a 50% discount on every building, while full tycoons would be around +40% effectiveness to all buildings with max budget on top of having 6 maxed out tycoon managers for important facilities.
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May 28, 2014 16:51
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Has anyone dug into the game at all to see how moddable it is? Even something as simple as changing ship capacity so you don't need as many docks would be a godsend and fix a lot of problems.
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May 28, 2014 16:54
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Dirk the Average posted:I would, but I wanted more trade ships. As it stands, I've used up around 75% of the beach. Also to note, the more ships on the water running into each other, the more lag the game generates. I was watching my processor increase steadily as I added docks. It was just crazy how much extra processing power is required by boats than anything else.
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May 28, 2014 17:37
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I don't know wether multiple Cheapskates in the dynasty stack, but having one and a Landlord *does* stack and I very much enjoy getting a 22% discount on all residential buildings. Also putting a Lvl 5 Landlord down in the middle of my poor people neighbourhood can be pretty useful to raise housing rates.
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May 28, 2014 17:39
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The phrase "Level 5 Landlord" will never not be funny.
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May 28, 2014 17:41
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Baronjutter posted:Has anyone dug into the game at all to see how moddable it is? Even something as simple as changing ship capacity so you don't need as many docks would be a godsend and fix a lot of problems. I took a peek, within the Data archive ( just google for a tropico .hpk unpacker / archiver ) there's a lot of promising stuff. Stuff's stored as .lua files, and I have no idea how to read them properly, though. I do find it odd that there's a GamepadSelectValuePreset.lua , GamePadStripPreset.lua that are just empty, though. And a ButtonPreset.lua that's the same , maybe we'll get better support for that stuff once they've finished the console version? All the buildings are there ripe for editing, ( Mineral deposits too. ) However, it looks like the docks are the ones responsible for shipping capacity, not ships as own entities. If anyone figures out what the values are, it'll be easy to tweak up their capacity. AmountToLoad 0u ResourceCapacity Kinda wonder what the difference between the two are, though, I thought docks just sent off everything in storage, but now I'm not so sure. e: But yeah, the fact that all goods just get exported is really annoying, I really hope they'll add storage facilities and better management of goods + shipping, but that's a large enough change that I'm afraid they won't implement it until the sequel, if they decide to. ( After all, the DLC stuff will probably be like in Tropico 4, just sprinkling extra stuff on top, although I must admit I didn't play Modern times much. ) SubNat fucked around with this message at 17:56 on May 28, 2014 |
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There's a modding thread over at the official forums that has some good stuff:KurtisB posted:Okay, I think I may have found it. Seems to work for me as well, got a city to over 3000 pop (on a savegame from before the change, even). MissNet posted:It's working. At least it working for const.MilitaryExploreCost, so I assume It will work for other constants. MissNet posted:Interesting hint in lua files. I've tried to decompile the lua files myself, but haven't had any luck so far (the Lua 5.1 decompiler that's around the internet doesn't work out of the box, and my C isn't good enough to fix it).
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May 28, 2014 18:15
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Alya posted:DLC 5 The Supercomputer I actually noticed that myself when looking through stuff, it's actually got a bit of stuff already in it. " The Tropican supercomputer is able to calculate Pi's 30000-th digit, provided this digit is 8. It was able to prove Fermat's Last Theorem with a solution so short and elegant that it could fit in the margin of a single book page. It still has some bugs in its software, but the programmers are affectionately calling them "undocumented creatures". "  It provides RP, has a max cap amount of them you can build. If you upgrade it with AI, you get 3 votes from it every election. Or " Teach the Supercomputer to play chess. Improves relations with the USSR/Russia by10 "
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May 28, 2014 18:21
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Does anyone else get weird crashes with this game? My whole system locks up, sound loops and I have to hard reset. Doesn't happen with any other game.
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May 28, 2014 18:25
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Welp, beat the campaign. Kinda lackluster compared to Tropico 4 to be honest. The last mission wasn't particularly difficult provided you've built it up properly earlier.
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May 28, 2014 18:58
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I'm a bit sad they still plan on having all the DLC be "a single most likely over-powered building and a hat".
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May 28, 2014 19:06
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Whatever DLC gave you the Labor Camp was the best DLC. Don't do the time if you can't plant the sugar.
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May 28, 2014 19:09
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Baronjutter posted:I'm a bit sad they still plan on having all the DLC be "a single most likely over-powered building and a hat". I felt that with 4's dlc, the mission was usually interesting enough to justify the price for each dlc. If you only play in sandbox mode though, I can understand the issues.
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That DLC does sound a bit disappointing, I’ll probably just wait for a big steam sale to get all of it a year from now, oh well. I do hope they have another big Modern Times’ish expansion though. Rakosi posted:Does anyone else get weird crashes with this game? My whole system locks up, sound loops and I have to hard reset. Doesn't happen with any other game. I get hard freezes and even BSDs pretty often, but it may be due to my not-super-duper laptop. I’m still holding out hope for more stability through some patches.
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May 28, 2014 19:31
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I'm playing on a Lenovo office laptop ( ) and I haven't had a single crash yet.
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May 28, 2014 19:32
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Poil posted:6. Your army will spread out and protect the targeted buildings by hanging around outside them and never hunts down rebels despite vastly superior numbers.
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May 28, 2014 19:33
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I have a small issue with ready-made DLC included in the data files, as opposed to being made after the fact.
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May 28, 2014 19:34
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Yes it's a well beaten horse by now, started by a horse wearing armour that you could beat. Let's not go there.
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May 28, 2014 19:37
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Zigmidge posted:Yes it's a well beaten horse by now, started by a horse wearing armour that you could beat. Let's not go there. You can download a flail to beat the horse with, for only $0.99
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May 28, 2014 19:39
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So I started with 200 people and unlimited cash on Punta de whatever and this is now the second game where I'm not seeing the revolt mission pop up. Is this working as designed? My last sandbox game I just ran out of mandate time without being able to advance.
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May 28, 2014 19:49
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Hambilderberglar posted:So I started with 200 people and unlimited cash on Punta de whatever and this is now the second game where I'm not seeing the revolt mission pop up. Is this working as designed? My last sandbox game I just ran out of mandate time without being able to advance. Did you get happiness to 50%?
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May 28, 2014 19:51
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Sedisp posted:Did you get happiness to 50%?
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May 28, 2014 19:56
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I had a tsunami, which turned the screen black and crashed the game. Had to alt+f4 out. The mouse cursor and music kept working fine though. Time to restart with disasters turned from rare to off. 
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FrozenVent posted:I'm playing on a Lenovo office laptop ( What's the specs on it out of curiosity? Mine is a Lenovo too; i5, 6 gigs of ram and a 1 gig nvidia video card. It ran 4 maxed out for hours on end with no problem, but 5 is making it poo poo the bed constantly.  vv drat 
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I got 8 gigs of ram, i7-4710MQ 2.50, and a gtx 860m. Tried playing twice now and am only greeted with system lockups within ten minutes.
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Okay, I gotta break a lance for the new radio host: The announcement for a Tsunami is great. She does the same "Surf's Up!" thing as Sunny did in 4, but the delivery of the whole line is just perfect.
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May 28, 2014 20:56
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What traits do you guys recommend on your guy? I was a Foreman but I don't think it was helping me out too much.
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I went with environmentalist for the sweet island-wide pollution reduction. You want a presidente with a strong global bonus but the manager bonus doesn't matter because you'll never be able to use it. So maybe a weak manager bonus so it doesn't feel as bad when you have to waste it. No idea if anyone has compiled a list of the traits somewhere yet though.
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By the way, I've had nothing but praise for this title, except for one aspect - the music. The instruments aren't real this time, they're synthesized, at least that is how it sounds. Also there are no vocals. So I got my hands on the music for Tropico 1, Tropico 1's Expansion, Tropico 3, and Tropico 4, and run them all in the background on a random loop while playing. It's so much better. Tropico 2 had like jungle pirate music, and it never existed anyway, so I left it out of the mix.
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I'm really liking the quest chains for the crown in the colonial era. The first quests from the capitalist woman in the war eras is pretty good too. Isn't it wonderful that everyone wants to nuke each other? Let's sell them some uranium and push up the price. Even though she doesn't wear a top hat I still like her a lot more than whathisname from Tropico 4.
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Alya posted:DLC 1 Inquisition Taking another round through, I'm pretty sure all the DLC buildings are in the files somewhere, although most of them don't have anything more than a placeholder. Future buildings to look forwards to. Unsure which DLC they're related to: Police Blimp Ranger Corps Asylum Bathysphere Security Checkpoint Spy Academy Supermax Prison Smugglers Dock Dungeons Drone Control Fast Food Joint Fishing Trawler. Giant Laser Glass Bottom Restaurant Inquisition Mechanized Garrison Nuclear Submarine Offshore Office Oil Platform Oyster Farm Creamery (dlc2, Cheese making plant, it seems? ) Dolphinarium (dlc6, ) DefenceHQ ( The Hexagon ) ( dlc 7)Gone Green DLC? Tidal Power Plant Wind Farm Recycling Plant It honestly looks like the DLCs contain multiple buildings each, for different eras. Atleast, it seems far more promising than just 1 building + something else. e: Still. DUNGEON. Hopefully it's as good as it sounds. e2: + the Supercomputer, of course. SubNat fucked around with this message at 22:21 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 22:18
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It could of course be some things that were scrapped but they left traces of them behind.
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quote:Drone Control I can already see it, you can win elections because your opponent suffered a lamentable case of Missile Out Of Nowhere.
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May 28, 2014 22:26
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Poil posted:It could of course be some things that were scrapped but they left traces of them behind. Each file actually has a tag for REQUIRED DLC: , and a couple even mention which specific dlc they're tied to. It might be scraps left over yes, but it seems odd that all of them are tied to DLCs in that case. It's not impossible that they caught enough flack over the tiny DLCs from Tropico 5, that they decided to expand them a little.
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SubNat posted:Each file actually has a tag for REQUIRED DLC: , and a couple even mention which specific dlc they're tied to.
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So I completed the campaign today so I figured I'd drop in and share my thoughts on the game so far. On the whole, I like it. The core gameplay is the Tropico I've come to know and love from playing 3 & 4. The humour's there, always nice to get up to some whacky dictatorial shenanigans. Exporting uranium during the cold war behind the UN's back was fun, especially when they caught me so I started to smuggle it out disguised as canned goods. Until some of the cans accidentally got sent as food aid to a starving nation. Oops! The new system of building managers was a nice addition, allowing me to fine tune key points of my economy. Send a landlord to run the tavern in the middle of a housing district, an environmentalist in my industrial zone and celebrities for my most expensive hotels. The dynastic system was fun, too. Extra managers, and they all add their global bonuses in addition to their deployment skills. On the down side, it's mostly cosmetic. The UI could use some de-obfuscation. There are places where it was much easier to get information out of the earlier games than this one. The soundtrack's disappointing compared to 3 & 4 as well, all midi-fied instrumentals. I still miss Gata Loca (or whatever it's called, you know the one). Most of all, the characters are lacking. Tropico 4 had a large cast of colourful caricatures that really helped bring the game to life. Outside of Leon Kane, the new DJ and the return of Penultimo, nobody really made much of an impression on me. Still, things've obviously been done right, as I've already started a new dynasty in sandbox mode. Viva Tropico!
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Supervillain DLC, is that a counterpoint to the old Superhero DLC for 4? Haha.
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The dynasty system is cool, I guess, but I really do miss picking colorful traits and backgrounds for El Presidente. It really made him/her seem like a character and not just a statistic.
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