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I mean considering Safe Haven already outclassed SPAA in every other way, it seems a bit like tilting at windmills to try to top it as a Doom adaptation.
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Wait, I just processed that post. Noxville, what the gently caress planet do you live on where Blood Dragon wasn't one of the best games of 2013? Like, I can see thinking it was too short or didn't have enough content, but it was also dirt cheap, the entire game was just one batshit insane action setpiece after another (compare to the original FC3 where the cool setpieces were broken up by dumb poo poo), and the presentation is brilliant. Seriously, more things need to have that exaggerated 80s/early 90s aesthetic, because every time I see it I love it like hell.
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May 28, 2014 18:54
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean considering Safe Haven already outclassed SPAA in every other way, it seems a bit like tilting at windmills to try to top it as a Doom adaptation. Safe Haven is in no way a Doom adaptation. For example, it has a plot.
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May 28, 2014 18:55
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Yeah, for Safe Haven to be a Doom adaptation that last segment would have needed more shotguns and rocket launchers. Maybe it's a good Doom 3 adaptation. 
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May 28, 2014 18:57
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Safe Haven is in no way a Doom adaptation. For example, it has a plot. So does Doom. Safe Haven is just Doom 0: On Earth.
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May 28, 2014 18:58
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Wait, I just processed that post. Noxville, what the gently caress planet do you live on where Blood Dragon wasn't one of the best games of 2013? The moment that dumb humour tips it's hat and acknowledges how dumb it is is the moment it stops being funny, and sitting through three hours of the game mugging at the camera was the worst kind of torture. Give me OG Far Cry 3's innocent idiocy any day of the week. e: This is why Miami Connection is roughly a billionty times better than any of these deliberately bad 'we made a bad 80s movie on purpose' things. Noxville fucked around with this message at 19:05 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 19:02
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I'm all for a new Doom film if they bring back The Rock and end it by having him use a berserk pack to punch a Cyberdemon to death.
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May 28, 2014 19:03
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Noxville posted:Blood Dragon is a steaming pile of poo poo. What did Jason Eisener have to do with it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO0ou4Nqdn8
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May 28, 2014 19:04
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Samuel Clemens posted:I'm all for a new Doom film if they bring back The Rock and end it by having him use a berserk pack to punch a Cyberdemon to death. YOU ARE HUGE! THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE GUTS! RIP AND TEAR RIP AND TEAR!
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quote:Maya Angelou, Poet, Author, Civil Rights Activist, And—Holy Cow—Tony Award–Nominated Actress, College Professor, Magazine Editor, Streetcar Conductor—Really? Streetcar Conductor? Wow—Calypso Singer, Nightclub Performer, And Foreign Journalist, Dead At 86 Sad day.  But that's a fantastic little obit headline from the Onion.
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May 28, 2014 19:13
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Noxville posted:The moment that dumb humour tips it's hat and acknowledges how dumb it is is the moment it stops being funny, and sitting through three hours of the game mugging at the camera was the worst kind of torture. Give me OG Far Cry 3's innocent idiocy any day of the week. The thing is, though, Blood Dragon isn't "deliberately bad." It's not even bad. It's just silly. The stuff that's "deliberately bad" usually sucks because it takes an attitude of ironic detachment towards the things it's influenced by, and comes off as trying too hard as a result. Blood Dragon, on the other hand, comes from a place of sincere love for the material; it pokes fun at some of the cliches of old action movies, but only very lightheartedly, and just from the attention to detail (you don't seek out Michael Biehn to voice the main character unless you really like 80s action movies) you can tell that everyone involved just wanted to make a batshit crazy old action movie in playable form. It's more like The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra than Sharknado. (If you don't like The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra I'm pretty sure there's no hope for you.) SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 19:21
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:So does Doom. The plot of Doom 2 is On Earth.
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May 28, 2014 19:27
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SALT CURES HAM posted:The thing is, though, Blood Dragon isn't "deliberately bad." It's not even bad. It's just silly. Everything about that game suggested to me that they didn't really know anything about what they were riffing on besides what pop culture had passed down to them. I didn't see any love of 80s action, just HA HA THE 80s!!!!!!!!! It's the same reason Robert Rodriguez's half of Grindhouse fails.
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May 28, 2014 19:33
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It would be cool if anything that aped the 80's was anywhere near as good as Beyond the Black Rainbow.
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May 28, 2014 19:33
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Samuel Clemens posted:I'm all for a new Doom film if they bring back The Rock and end it by having him use a berserk pack to punch a Cyberdemon to death. That is an exceptionally unsafe and inefficient way to take down a Cyberdemon, as any Doom II player knows.
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May 28, 2014 19:36
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SALT CURES HAM posted:The thing is, though, Blood Dragon isn't "deliberately bad." It's not even bad. It's just silly. The tutorial of the game was straight-up deliberately bad, and while I don't like to let the first five minutes of something reflect that much on the whole thing, it really, really started it off on a bad foot.
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May 28, 2014 19:37
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:It would be cool if anything that aped the 80's was anywhere near as good as Beyond the Black Rainbow. Fag Boy Jim posted:The tutorial of the game was straight-up deliberately bad, and while I don't like to let the first five minutes of something reflect that much on the whole thing, it really, really started it off on a bad foot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItOJfE_GYg "To look around, look around." Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 19:41 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 19:39
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Humor is super-subjective and Blood Dragon relies heavily on humor so I feel that's the biggest judgement point for most people. Also Blood Dragon is poo poo
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May 28, 2014 19:45
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:You know, I think I'd actually be pretty okay with Panos Cosmatos remaking big name 80s movies. Is he doing anything?
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May 28, 2014 19:46
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Josh Lyman posted:How the hell did Alice in Wonderland (2010) ever make $1 billion? An important part of the story is that it was one of the first big IMAX 3D movies to hit after Avatar, so that gave it a huge opening weekend because that trend was still getting super hot. It set the records for both 3d and IMAX opening weekend grosses, and something like 70% of it's opening weekend take was from 3d showings.
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May 28, 2014 19:47
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:It would be cool if anything that aped the 80's was anywhere near as good as Beyond the Black Rainbow. BtBR is way more 60/70s though. 
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May 28, 2014 19:50
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I remember completely losing my poo poo at the tutorial and knowing right then and there that I'd be in for a hell of a ride. It's a tutorial that acknowledges how stupid forced tutorials are, and yet, forces you to do it anyway. It's straight-up naked contempt for the player, and I honestly quit the game the first time it happened. There are really few things in any kind of work that I hate more than flawed elements that are framed as ironic, or humorous commentary on said flaws. If you want to criticize forced tutorials in games, don't put one in your game.
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May 28, 2014 19:50
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Lord Krangdar posted:Is he doing anything?  Anyone who can come out with a movie like that is crazy talented and he should probably be using his gifts more. Although if his next movie takes a while to come out but is as good as/better than Black Rainbow, I'd absolutely respect him for holding out until the time was right.
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May 28, 2014 19:53
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axleblaze posted:BtBR is way more 60/70s though. I dunno, the color scheme and score make me think 80's but I could be wrong.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:It's a tutorial that acknowledges how stupid forced tutorials are, and yet, forces you to do it anyway. It's straight-up naked contempt for the player, and I honestly quit the game the first time it happened. There are really few things in any kind of work that I hate more than flawed elements that are framed as ironic, or humorous commentary on said flaws. If you want to criticize forced tutorials in games, don't put one in your game. That was my experience as well. I installed the demo and was just so annoyed by this (combined with the fact that FPSs aren't really my favorite genre and I don't really have a particular nostalgia for the 80s) that I just kind of moved onto other things. I know I didn't really give it a fair chance but gently caress it, I literally have dozens of other games to play right now.
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axleblaze posted:That was my experience as well. I installed the demo and was just so annoyed by this (combined with the fact that FPSs aren't really my favorite genre and I don't really have a particular nostalgia for the 80s) that I just kind of moved onto other things. I know I didn't really give it a fair chance but gently caress it, I literally have dozens of other games to play right now.
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Fag Boy Jim posted:It's a tutorial that acknowledges how stupid forced tutorials are, and yet, forces you to do it anyway. It's straight-up naked contempt for the player, and I honestly quit the game the first time it happened. There are really few things in any kind of work that I hate more than flawed elements that are framed as ironic, or humorous commentary on said flaws. If you want to criticize forced tutorials in games, don't put one in your game. I actually got the feeling Ubisoft made them do it and it was a dig at them, not contempt for the player. (also the tutorial literally took like two minutes and was loving hilarious)
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May 28, 2014 20:09
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:I dunno, the color scheme and score make me think 80's but I could be wrong. The color scheme and score are very 2010s.
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May 28, 2014 20:12
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I never played this game but I'm watching the tutorial and it's pretty funny.
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TrixRabbi posted:The color scheme and score are very 2010s. ...not really? The only 2010s things that are like that are deliberate (if exaggerated) throwbacks. Neon and synthesizers makes me think 80s, not 2010s.
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May 28, 2014 20:21
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SALT CURES HAM posted:...not really? The only 2010s things that are like that are deliberate (if exaggerated) throwbacks. Neon and synthesizers makes me think 80s, not 2010s. Good god, it occurs to me that the defining Aesthetic of this decade could be what we were nostalgic for.
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May 28, 2014 20:23
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Sprecherscrow posted:Good god, it occurs to me that the defining Aesthetic of this decade could be what we were nostalgic for. This is probably more common than you think.
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May 28, 2014 20:27
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SALT CURES HAM posted:...not really? The only 2010s things that are like that are deliberate (if exaggerated) throwbacks. Neon and synthesizers makes me think 80s, not 2010s. Obviously there's stuff like Blade Runner and Escape from New York to set the ground, but neon has become this very modern aesthetic that is more and more frequent. Enter the Void (2009), Scott Pilgrim, Spring Breakers, even Neighbors. It's the 80s but the 80s through the eyes of the 2010s. Just as those films were the 50s and 60s through the eyes of the 80s. What would you say is distinctly indicative of the 2010s? Maybe it's too early to tell.
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I'm not really sure how to quantify it, but I'd say the defining aesthetic of the 2010s is pretty much the Marvel Cinematic Universe aesthetic. Somewhat dark and drab visuals (almost to the point of looking sterile) and bombastic orchestral scores with bits and pieces of electronic influence (think Hans Zimmer) seems like the ISO standard for 2010s "serious" stuff. The thing is, while we have gotten stuff with the 80s aesthetic recently, I would say it's more of a countercultural thing than anything else. Scott Pilgrim was a flop (even though it kicked rear end) and Spring Breakers and Enter the Void were arthouse films by notoriously inaccessible and iconoclastic filmmakers. Noxville posted:The 80s were not full of neon, people now just think they were. Which is why it's the defining aesthetic of the decade.  It wasn't in everything, hell it wasn't even necessarily in most things, but the things people immediately think of when they think of 80s aesthetics (early Michael Mann stuff, To Live and Die in LA, Blade Runner, John Carpenter's 80s output) were defined by it.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:...not really? The only 2010s things that are like that are deliberate (if exaggerated) throwbacks. Neon and synthesizers makes me think 80s, not 2010s. The 80s were not full of neon, people now just think they were.
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TrixRabbi posted:What would you say is distinctly indicative of the 2010s? Maybe it's too early to tell. Dogshit. Noxville posted:The 80s were not full of neon, people now just think they were. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j74mxqvxRDQ Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 20:44 on May 28, 2014 |
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SALT CURES HAM posted:I'm not really sure how to quantify it, but I'd say the defining aesthetic of the 2010s is pretty much the Marvel Cinematic Universe aesthetic. Somewhat dark and drab visuals (almost to the point of looking sterile) and bombastic orchestral scores with bits and pieces of electronic influence (think Hans Zimmer) seems like the ISO standard for 2010s "serious" stuff. I think we're seeing more vibrant color schemes, and that may be a response to the 2000s Nolan/Bourne Identity blue & gray dreck. In fact, these are some of the most gorgeously colorful films since technicolor in the 50s. Even stuff like Pain & Gain are bright and exciting.
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Whenever I think "neon aesthetic" the first thing that comes to mind are the Schumacher Batman films which were as 90s as you could possibly be. Are people just mixing up neon with day-glo? That poo poo was everywhere in the 80s but it was more fluorescent than neon.
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I would say DC's aesthetic is more of a better representation of 2010's visuals than Marvel's. Mostly because EVERYONE wants to ape Christopher Nolan all the loving time, and I'm so bored with that style. I hope he does something interesting with Intersteller though. Since Wally isn't on board any more.
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CelticPredator posted:I would say DC's aesthetic is more of a better representation of 2010's visuals than Marvel's. Mostly because EVERYONE wants to ape Christopher Nolan all the loving time, and I'm so bored with that style. I think we're seeing a shift away from that style. Even Pacific Rim, for all it's faults, was colorful.
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