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WAR FOOT posted:Most units already struggle to defend themselves against a charge. At worst you'd have a 50% chance to back off, and most units, be they Marines or Fire Warriors, would rather let their friends have a turn of shooting than swing. You're right, bad idea. Why is assault tough to balance? Did some more work on my Mega-Dredd:  (bonus shrub) Banner and gunner:  New armoured skirt:  The Mek at the back:   I now just have to see how much more I can be bothered to add cause I think that is done. I saw a Knight in the game store for the first time. Much smaller than I thought it would be. Also, couldn't you pick up a Stompa for £60 a few years back, and now the Morka/Gorkanought going for £65 now? I just proxy my Megadredd.
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Slimnoid posted:Don't fix what ain't broke. Indeed, the only thing "broke" about the old design was that it was resin. So a plastic SAG that maintains all the good parts if a flipping rad model is ok in my eyes.
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Sorry guys, feel free to ignore my ramblings. I like everything I am seeing from these orks pictures and it has be thinking... It looks like Flashgitz will be a 5-man kit? The unit is described as 4+Kaptain. So usually a new box comes with enough to make a minimum sized unit. Does this mean that we will get 5 MANz? That will be nice but probably means the box will be like $60. I have enough AOBR nobz around I can make the MANZ and just use the guns and arms to make Flashgitz. The joy of orks, though maybe these two are just not similar enough to be the same kit. So new Kannons will be interesting since the lack of a plastic kit was the major reason no one took those T7 grots. I wonder if they will make an alternate kit to mirror it while they are at it. Think Hydra/Wyvern. Also, maybe Deffkopptas/buggies will get cut since they are not well supported, but that is a total guess but I have not seen either model in a picture yet, hardly concrete evidence though. I forget how many 'new' kits can be expected from a release. We know of 3/4 now: Morknaught, Big Gunz, Flashgitz (and maybe MANz separately?). I think 4 is the upper limit we have seen. I will be interested to see where everything lands. I hope they make the Stompa a part of the codex, maybe make it more in line with a Knight's power. That kit is only  more than the new dread. I like the new dread but man, that is a lot less plastic. A gamer on a budget at least has options.drat I hope warbikers are like 12pts. Bikers have been king for a while but it would be a crime if Orks miss out since they have the best ones (they have the best everything). Finally, It would be cool if orks have their own Waaagh powers similar to Eldar, where Weirdboys roll on one half and leaders (Warboss, Meks, Nobz?) roll on the other half. For every unit that has 10+ orks (not grots) add 1 Waaagh-Charge to your pool, if they are 20+ add two instead etc etc. Thanks for baring with me. Here, have my completed oath as my apology: More Nod-Guard 
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Raphus C posted:Did some more work on my Mega-Dredd:   Seriously, that's great, love the pistol whipping hand used to yank a lever.
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Pirate ork army. Hook hands, striped pants, bandannas, the works. All the vehicles are just pirate ships with wheels. Bikes are jet skis. The warboss has a hat the size of a Nob. Killa kans? Giant barrels of ale. This is clearly the best idea I've ever had.
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Slimnoid posted:Pirate ork army. Hook hands, striped pants, bandannas, the works. All the vehicles are just pirate ships with wheels. Bikes are jet skis. The warboss has a hat the size of a Nob. Killa kans? Giant barrels of ale. So basically Ork Freebooterz?
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Checking out the Mechanicum list, I'm pretty positive I'm going to switch from a Legion army to a Mechanicum army. The models are baller as gently caress and Castellax are Monstrous Creatures that are troops choices!
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WhiteOutMouse posted:Thanks for baring with me. Here, have my completed oath as my apology: The Nod Guard are so awesome - can't wait to see more from you! You're probably going to need one of these: 
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Slimnoid posted:Pirate ork army. Hook hands, striped pants, bandannas, the works. All the vehicles are just pirate ships with wheels. Bikes are jet skis. The warboss has a hat the size of a Nob. Killa kans? Giant barrels of ale. Do it. You will not forgive yourself if you don't. If you are going to make Orks, do something special.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:The Nod Guard are so awesome - can't wait to see more from you! What is that, where do I get it, and is it Baneblade sized?
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AndyElusive posted:So basically Ork Freebooterz? Battlewagon option: 
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Cataphract posted:I love that the new meganobz don't seem to be too much of a departure from the old ones so they'll blend nicely in an army of mixed models. Is this a joke or am I just an rear end in a top hat for laughing haha
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AndyElusive posted:So basically Ork Freebooterz? Basically, yeah. The warboss loves the sea. Fuckin' LOVES it. Spore'd on a planet full of it, spent a lot of time on da high seaz, and when eventually he grew too ambitious to stay on one planet took a whole fleet of ships with him. Turns out a lot of planets don't have as much water! But that isn't going to stop him, gently caress no, so he cruises around with wheeled ships on desert planets giving exactly zero fucks if it looks ridiculous or impractical. He's got booty to plunder, teef to steal, and heads to crump. I think I will give him a squig parrot. Raphus C posted:Do it. You will not forgive yourself if you don't. If you are going to make Orks, do something special. Honestly it's an idea I've had in the back of my mind since the 4th edition book, but got tossed to the side for a while. Now's as good a time as any to tackle it.
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Sulecrist posted:Can anyone help me? Does anyone have extra Catachan heads sitting around? Yep I can hook you up with some, including bandana ones. I'm in Australia though, so someone local might be better but PM me if you don't get any better options.
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Swagger Dagger posted:What is that, where do I get it, and is it Baneblade sized? Looks like this gundam model: http://www.gundamplanet.com/uchg-6-1-35-m61a5-main-battle-tank.html It is 1/35th scale, which sometimes works for vehicles in 40k, but is way too small for mans.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:The Nod Guard are so awesome - can't wait to see more from you! I was thinking of going with this Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179741323/battle-dog-and-pug *His latest update has the lowered turret, which looks much better.*  But the 3-pack it is the same price as 20% off real Leman Russ tanks. It looks like these are about 1.5cm shorter and the turret is like 3x bigger. It matches the aesthetic of the Light Tank's original sprite more than the GW one but I'm not sure if I should pull the trigger or not. GW kits come with like 3 turrets but this one has 5, so that is nice..
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LordAba posted:Battlewagon option: I need that for my Clan Skurvy screaming bell.
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ZachAttack posted:Looks like this gundam model: Someone needs to buy one and compare for scale. TIA.
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Australians, what's the cheapest way to get a 7E rulebook? I probably won't buy one but I'm curious anyway.
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AgentF posted:Australians, what's the cheapest way to get a 7E rulebook? I probably won't buy one but I'm curious anyway.  I'm kidding, I'm not Australian and I have no idea. Don't probate me. 
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Someone needs to buy one and compare for scale. TIA. ~33cm, so it should be about 1.5 baneblades long. Same width, and slightly taller. SpikeMcclane fucked around with this message at 17:55 on May 31, 2014 |
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Slimnoid posted:Basically, yeah. With awesome Pirate Ork heads! http://www.grimgoblin.co.uk/maxmini---pirate-orc-boyz-heads-5--ork-warhammer-40k-nobz-fantasy-goblins-big-260-p.asp
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Someone needs to buy one and compare for scale. TIA.  This guys says "about the size of a baneblade."
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Hollismason posted:Not painted Red Yeah, like Evil Sunz can afford all that flash new stuff. 
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WhiteOutMouse posted:I was thinking of going with this Kickstarter: Looks like a super derby Cromwell.
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Sulecrist posted:I would like 2-4 Catachan heads for my new Scouts. Specifically, I would like at least one head with a bandanna and I would love the person-of-color-smoking-a-cigar head from the old Catachan Sentinel upgrade sprue. I used to have that head on one of my Marines before I sold them like 6 years ago, and I would love to make that dude again now that I'm back in this terrible game.  I'll be gone from computers for the next week as I recertify as a Wilderness First Responder (pretending to be a Catachan IRL  ), but if you're still looking for heads by next Friday shoot me a message.Slimnoid posted:Pirate ork army. Hook hands, striped pants, bandannas, the works. All the vehicles are just pirate ships with wheels. Bikes are jet skis. The warboss has a hat the size of a Nob. Killa kans? Giant barrels of ale. Raphus C posted:Did some more work on my Mega-Dredd:
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Slimnoid posted:Pirate ork army. Hook hands, striped pants, bandannas, the works. All the vehicles are just pirate ships with wheels. Bikes are jet skis. The warboss has a hat the size of a Nob. Killa kans? Giant barrels of ale. Warboss Edward Kenwaaaagh
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WhiteOutMouse posted:I was thinking of going with this Kickstarter: Hm, not bad. Tempted to get at least one if the pricing and shipping is not too insane. Not too keen on the huge boxy turret though. The turret less "artillery" one would make for a great Destroyer Tank Hunter though.
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BuffaloChicken posted:Hey Sule - I got 6 different Cat heads I can hit you up with. One is the Sentinel head with cigar and sunglasses - see below. Is that the one you're after? That's the one! Also christ I love your models. I'm going to fit a heavily converted Knight Errant into my army eventually because of you 
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Cataphract posted:Indeed, the only thing "broke" about the old design was that it was resin. So a plastic SAG that maintains all the good parts if a flipping rad model is ok in my eyes. I wonder what the price hike will be for this "updated" model?
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xtothez posted:Take the transport upgrade and throw some Venomthropes inside. 5+ cover always, or 3+ if you can keep a leg standing in some ruins. I was thinking about doing this, but with a tyranid prime attached to the venomthrope for a big rear end synapse bubble. I'm pretty sure it works. panascope posted:Checking out the Mechanicum list, I'm pretty positive I'm going to switch from a Legion army to a Mechanicum army. The models are baller as gently caress and Castellax are Monstrous Creatures that are troops choices! That's because AdMech is awesome and the full list out of book 3 kicks rear end, also surprised how big the drat Krios tanks are. I just finished assembling a Venator and a regular one, its just a bit smaller than a land raider. Hencoe fucked around with this message at 18:28 on May 31, 2014 |
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Is it weird that they've announced these new Ork models but haven't actually put up a Codex up on GW yet? When can we expect preorders for that to go live?
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Power Player posted:Is it weird that they've announced these new Ork models but haven't actually put up a Codex up on GW yet? When can we expect preorders for that to go live? GW does things weekly now. During a release, the first week is some big model to get people interested, but without the actual codex. The second week is more kits and the book while the third week is probably a battle force box or something. We'll see the codex up for pre-orders next weekend to release on the 14th of June.
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What's everyone think of awarding points at an event for lists that fulfill certain requirements? It would be difficult to tune correctly, and I'm not talking "hrm, your foot Eldar army with three Banshee choices was tabled turn 3, but it's fluffy so I guess this is a draw." I'm thinking more that, if you are awarded VP for every round, you check a box for fulfilling X requirement (two different Fast Attack, one unit of at least 50 points from every slot, etc) and net a bonus of VP. Not enough to turn a loss into a victory, but maybe a close game into a draw versus a list without the bonus VP, or tip a draw into a narrow win. The difficulty is balancing that correctly, and making sure that if VP carries over from game to game, that if a list that checks that lil box is facing one that did not at the final table, that the second list doesn't have to make up for a huge deficit in points. I'm thinking something like, in games where 25+ VP are at stake through three different objectives and various extras, 2-3 points would work. Not a bunch in game, but can tilt things, and if a tournament is four rounds, it's only an 8 point deficit at the end that a list without the requirement has to beat. However, assuming the balance is hammered out correctly, players can weigh the cost-benefit of bringing in X, and if they want to bring a varied list for extra points or to go all in on what they normally run. Fulfilling the requirements of X would give them edge if they draw against another hard list, but maybe the original list would have notched down a win in the first place, you know? Ideally, it encourages people at least try out different units and lists. The downside is that if a list is running the gimmick of the event naturally (two different Elites - Riptide and Crisis suits, so free points!) they're basically getting free points for playing what they normally play. However, I'm thinking this for a series of local tournaments, so you'd ideally see a rotation of requirements and avoid armies just netting those free points consistently. Sure, Tau might nab it easy one tournament, but the next might be two different Fast Attack units and the Chaos player with Spawn and a Helldrake is nabbing those points. Worst that happens is that people just blow off the requirements and win by so much that those extra points are pointless, but you'd at least see more variety at the middle and bottom tables. How reasonable/godawful is this? tl;dr - give a few VP to players that fulfill a gimmick, and make sure it is useful for tiebreakers and final positions but not enough that it unbalances things. does this blow or rule? edit - this isn't some sort of game changing proposal, but would you think it cool/fine at the local club as a bit of variety in your tournaments? Von Humboldt fucked around with this message at 18:54 on May 31, 2014 |
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CyberLord XP posted:Isn't that literally what a comp score is? The points are ultimately there as a feel good thing, in game encouragement for variety, and a little bonus - 2 points is First Blood and Slay the Warlord, and normally the Third Objective (we play with three objectives, with descending points values) is like 4-6 points - so it's not grossly unbalancing.
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I've seen VP's awarded in tournament scenarios for killing an entire section of the Forge Org chart. In the event the player didn't have an option in that slot (Elite, Fast Attack, etc...) those points were automatically awarded. Penalizes armies who maximize on one element and that all Imperial Knight list without actually penalizing them directly (though the IK's still took 2nd with a 1,850 point list in a 2,000 point tournament). Boon fucked around with this message at 19:34 on May 31, 2014 |
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Give a VP for killing your own unit on accident. Exclude psychic.
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LingcodKilla posted:Give a VP for killing your own unit on accident. Exclude psychic.
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