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RBA Starblade posted:Ha, how long has the Old Iron King had a fire laser? I hadn't seen it before just now. He loves to take that out when you hide behind the wall. That's his way of saying, oh trying to hide from my fire? FIRE BEAM BITCH. Granted it's not too hard to dodge. Just right when he's about to fire beam palm, roll under his arm, your iframes make you invincible while you roll through his arm.
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# ? May 31, 2014 18:38 |
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kazil posted:A sequel relying on the previous title for story? Holy poo poo! Actually it has the exact same story told less coherently with some poo poo tacked to the end. Essentially Dark Souls II is to Dark Souls as Metal Gear Solid 2 is to Metal Gear Solid in a way in that in intentionally draws rather obvious parallels but it's all kinda different. The plot of the first game is strongly related and very relevant. You won't be able to get as much out of it or understand it as well if you haven't played the first game. If you care about the story and lore that is. You can still enjoy the game perfectly fine not bothering with all that at all.
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# ? May 31, 2014 18:40 |
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No matter my build, I can't really bring myself to bring my stamina above 100 points and just use the chloranthy ring/dragon ring to make up for it. Is it really worth it to put levels in past that? It seems like it'd just equate to one more attack with a sword or mace.Shindragon posted:He loves to take that out when you hide behind the wall. That's his way of saying, oh trying to hide from my fire? Yeah, even in NG+ it didn't do a whole lot, just surprised me that I hadn't seen it between two NG runs and phantoming. It's what I get for trying to snipe him with magic!
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# ? May 31, 2014 18:48 |
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RBA Starblade posted:No matter my build, I can't really bring myself to bring my stamina above 100 points and just use the chloranthy ring/dragon ring to make up for it. Is it really worth it to put levels in past that? It seems like it'd just equate to one more attack with a sword or mace. The actual thing to do is always have Third Dragon Ring no matter what your build. 20 extra points of stamina, in addition to more HP and equip load? You'd be a fool not to use it.
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# ? May 31, 2014 18:52 |
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I hadn't even finished logging back into my character at the Lost Bastille and I got invaded. Sadly, the dark phantom was defeated not by me or the blue sentinel, but by the door shortcut.
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# ? May 31, 2014 18:56 |
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RBA Starblade posted:No matter my build, I can't really bring myself to bring my stamina above 100 points and just use the chloranthy ring/dragon ring to make up for it. Is it really worth it to put levels in past that? It seems like it'd just equate to one more attack with a sword or mace. I think the most important benefit of extra stamina is having that one extra roll. Loads of enemies have 3 attack combos, and other (like the Ruin Sentinel spin attack) require you to be able to roll at least twice at any moment, even after you've attacked a bunch. Plus, with how poise works in this game, having high stamina means everything if you have a fast enough weapon to stunlock someone.
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# ? May 31, 2014 18:58 |
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Stamina is really nerf'd in this game. Once it hits 20, anything above it is just one point to stamina. As Geno said, slap on that third dragon ring and you are pretty much good to go.
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# ? May 31, 2014 18:58 |
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Do we ever get to this location in the game? I don't recall seeing a giant statue like that.Shindragon posted:Stamina is really nerf'd in this game. Once it hits 20, anything above it is just one point to stamina. As Geno said, slap on that third dragon ring and you are pretty much good to go. It's what I've been doing, it just feels weird just not caring about it at all past 10 endurance. Oh well.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:01 |
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I am a bit confused on how stagger and poise works in this game. When I wearing havel's armor and am attacked by an npc enemy, I can still finish my attacks without being staggered (up to a point). But in PvP, any little weapon is able to interrupt my attacks. Does poise just not work in PvP? That would be disappointing. I always thought the main advantage of the heavier armors in DS 1 was their great poise.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:01 |
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Poise Breakpoints Basically, poise is pretty weak this time around. There are a lot of weapons that will always cause flinching with even their lightest attack, and near anything that doesn't stun on the first hit definitely will on the second.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:05 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Do we ever get to this location in the game? I don't recall seeing a giant statue like that. The only place I can think of with a huge statue is the giant minotaur in the Iron Keep
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:06 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:The only place I can think of with a huge statue is the giant minotaur in the Iron Keep Yeah, but it's not the right direction or covered in lava. Or on top of a windmill. Fooling around some more I only just noticed the front of the Faraam helm has some decorations of a knight slaying a dragon, right on the forehead. That's a pretty cool detail!
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:07 |
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Given the location and the appearance, I'd guess that that's the later part of Forest of Fallen Giants.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:08 |
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Remember the first Pursuer's platform? The angle seems odd, though. The statue I remember facing parallel to the platform, not perpendicular to it. e:fb
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:08 |
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It's the still standing giant statue on Forest of Fallen Giants.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:12 |
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Had a blast in DS1 doing things out of order; finished up NG+ on my first char so time to start that. Level 49, haven't completed FoFG or No Man's Wharf, and about ready to fire infuse a BKH and poison a Ricard's - Went quickly through Heide's->Copse->Valley->Iron Keep->Shaded Woods->Shaded Ruins Had to jump into FoFG for the blacksmith key cause I wasn't doing poo poo for damage against the Skellie Lords, upped a morningstar to +3 with the souls from Heide's and it wrecked 'em. Picked up Ricard's and a fragrant branch in the Copse, a poison stone in the Valley, the ember in the keep, Chloranthy +1 in the Woods, and the BKH in the Ruins - now I'm ready to start the game! I'll drop down to the salamander area for the fire stone and be ready for infusions as soon as I hit the Bastille. Get rekt, game.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:15 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Yeah, but it's not the right direction or covered in lava. Or on top of a windmill. That's the fort in the Forest of the Fallen Giants. There are two huge statues in it, one that's lost its sword and another whose head rolled into the Pursuer arena. Granted, I don't think that 2d image used in the background is generated from the actual area, so it might be a bit spatially messed up.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:25 |
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teh_Broseph posted:Had a blast in DS1 doing things out of order; finished up NG+ on my first char so time to start that. This is basically a poor man's SL1 playthrough. Go all the way or go home!
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:25 |
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Not that I have much room to talk. I'm too bad at this game to do an SL1 playthrough in a million years.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:27 |
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:That's the fort in the Forest of the Fallen Giants. There are two huge statues in it, one that's lost its sword and another whose head rolled into the Pursuer arena. Granted, I don't think that 2d image used in the background is generated from the actual area, so it might be a bit spatially messed up. Oh, that might be why then. I only recall seeing the broken statue around the Pursuer.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:34 |
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I don't know how any of you manage to kill the throne defender and watcher in NG+ using melee only. I have to do so much dodging just to keep from being hit that I hardly have enough stamina to fight back, because I can't separate the two no matter what I do. Then I end up getting 2 or 3-shot. I really don't want to have to break out magic for this fight, because that's how I've done them the last few tries, but this is making me want to tear my hair out.
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Cyberventurer posted:I don't know how any of you manage to kill the throne defender and watcher in NG+ using melee only. I have to do so much dodging just to keep from being hit that I hardly have enough stamina to fight back, because I can't separate the two no matter what I do. Then I end up getting 2 or 3-shot. I really don't want to have to break out magic for this fight, because that's how I've done them the last few tries, but this is making me want to tear my hair out. You shouldn't separate them. That only means you have to keep track of two targets that are apart. Instead try to make them attack at the same time. It requires patience but you can get some good opportunities to get hits in that way.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:45 |
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Yeah, that might well be the hardest fight in the game to play out melee only. They have the ridiculous aggressiveness that Sentinels were missing.
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:46 |
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Cyberventurer posted:I don't know how any of you manage to kill the throne defender and watcher in NG+ using melee only. I have to do so much dodging just to keep from being hit that I hardly have enough stamina to fight back, because I can't separate the two no matter what I do. Then I end up getting 2 or 3-shot. I really don't want to have to break out magic for this fight, because that's how I've done them the last few tries, but this is making me want to tear my hair out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J57sqarje20&t=1080s
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:54 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Alonne Captain's armor and steel leggings?
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# ? May 31, 2014 19:58 |
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Toadsmash posted:Yeah, that might well be the hardest fight in the game to play out melee only. They have the ridiculous aggressiveness that Sentinels were missing. My first playthrough was melee only, and I struggled on the Ruin Sentinels but beat the Defender/Watcher on the first try. vv e: Had my first fun PVP encounter today! Was invaded by a dude twice while trying to do some policework, got stunlocked and murdered the first time, but then he invaded again and after a long and intense fight (without any lag whatsoever!) I managed to beat him (over the head. With my club!) Also, being a blue cop is way fun Your Computer fucked around with this message at 20:04 on May 31, 2014 |
# ? May 31, 2014 20:01 |
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Do you get many summons as a sentinel? This mode sounds like fun, but I hate to hang around waiting for something to happen.
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:06 |
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woodenchicken posted:Do you get many summons as a sentinel? It's not like you put on the ring and get summoned nonstop, no. I just keep the ring on now and get summoned whenever. I played for maybe half an hour and got summoned twice (and did 3 invasions). My first invasion was glorious, the invader obviously didn't expect a sentinel to show up because he immediately targeted me and started backstepping... right off a ledge, to his doom.
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:20 |
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woodenchicken posted:Do you get many summons as a sentinel? Not really, no. You stay a sentinel more to use cracked blue eye orbs than for that ring. It is really fun when you do get to ruin some sinner's sinful plan.
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:22 |
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How are the red rust weapons?
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:29 |
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Bob NewSCART posted:How are the red rust weapons? I like the sword a lot. Probably my most used weapon that isn't a mace.
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:41 |
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Has anyone noticed how nobody in the world cares about Belfry Sol in pvp in NG+, only Luna?
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:43 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:I like the sword a lot. Probably my most used weapon that isn't a mace. How's the moveset and damage? I'm gonna go check them out from vengarls head when I go on the computer. Have you tried the scimitar?
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:47 |
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The dog from outside Belfry Luna somehow got inside the belfries and killed a host for me while he was chugging some estus. That's weird.
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:57 |
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Bob NewSCART posted:How's the moveset and damage? I'm gonna go check them out from vengarls head when I go on the computer. Have you tried the scimitar? The moveset is literally an axe. Probably the best axe in the game, ironically.
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:58 |
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IGgy IGsen posted:Actually it has the exact same story told less coherently with some poo poo tacked to the end. I agree that it parallels the first game a lot, but that's pretty thematically relevant. The game hammers home that poo poo's on a cycle and what happened before will happen again. I think you get more out of the story by connecting it to the events from DS1, but the bulk of the lore and plot are contained to the sequel. There's some connection to Lordran, but exactly how it fits into Dragnleic is very vague.
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# ? May 31, 2014 20:58 |
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Bob NewSCART posted:How's the moveset and damage? I'm gonna go check them out from vengarls head when I go on the computer. Have you tried the scimitar? Both of the red rust weapons are quite good. The sword has the axe moveset (i.e. like hand axe or battle axe), good reach, and good damage (~360 with 40 str IIRC, slightly above average for a straight sword or axe). The scimitar has poor scaling but still ends up being one of the highest damaging curved swords and the best for a str build. Good as a quicker side weapon. Only downside is that they both require twinkling titanite, so they can be kind of a pain to upgrade.
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# ? May 31, 2014 21:03 |
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A guy attacks me with a sword that knocks me back three times more than any sword, knocking me off the luna bridge and killing me. The game gave me 20,000 souls for this. Things are getting weird now.
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# ? May 31, 2014 21:07 |
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There's a lot of stuff that's just controlled by numbers on weapons, like hitboxes. It's not like DS1 where you couldn't edit that kind of thing easily. It's kind of weird. They made it easier to do stuff that actually affects gameplay, but harder to do harmless fun stuff like change phantom color or get at the barrel armor.
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Getting a little tired of direct pvp, I've decided to have a bit of fun with the belfries in a different way. I threw on a white ring and warmth and I'm going around being cheery and giving everyone a little helping hand! It's not enough sometimes though. Everyone generally gets the hint after 1 or 2 warmths are cast. I wonder if there's anything else I could do to be a helpful grey phantom here? RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 21:48 on May 31, 2014 |
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