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Vahakyla posted:First, no you don't. The Sherman crew has a much better chance of surviving. War has never been a measurement of any single factor. Not to be "that guy" but a great deal happened before 1942, including but not limited to: the invasion of Poland, France, the Battle of Britain, and Operation Barbarossa. Some argue that the war was decided by December 1941, and the rest was just prolonging the inevitable. Edit: new page pretty picture: a Panther knocked out by a Pershing in 1945. Notice the hole in the side.  Edit2: bonus video of the fight! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBI9d0-IfEM Propagandist fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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Fauxtool posted:Shut the gently caress up. http://live.warthunder.com/
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Jun 1, 2014 10:31
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So how is the USSR medium tree late game? Not enjoying fighting panthers with the T-34-85 so far, I can kill them up close but at range I can't hit the magic explody button.
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Jun 1, 2014 10:32
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organburner posted:So how is the USSR medium tree late game? Not enjoying fighting panthers with the T-34-85 so far, I can kill them up close but at range I can't hit the magic explody button. is-1 is worse since its slower, the armor is irrelevant and the gun is the same. SU-152 is fun, but not actually very good. The t44 is amazing and definitely an upgrade Its a bad segment of an otherwise good tech tree Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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Jun 1, 2014 10:41
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Nektu posted:So, to be able to drive skytonks Somehow the thread went 9 pages without it. Also I love it when dumb discussions on who had the best tanks get started by a joke.
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Jun 1, 2014 10:44
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TaurusOxford posted:So the PS4 is getting this game on Tuesday. Is this one of those games that is better played with a KB/M or will a controller be just as good and let me dogfight with the best of them? First page. Controller and mouse is the absolute best and likely to stay that way because L2 on the DS4 gives something like an auto-aim, combined with a good mouse (pref. one with DPI adjustment) you'll have better aim to go with that than what just the DS2 could provide. KBM right now lacks the auto-aim that comes from pressing L2 and is locked to a dumb button configuration. There's also terrible framerates and massive input lag that makes a gaming mouse with DPI adjustment essential for mouse use, but hopefully it goes away when it gets patched up and rolled out outside of PAL PSN territories on the third.
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Vahakyla posted:First, no you don't. The Sherman crew has a much better chance of surviving. War has never been a measurement of any single factor. Yes, later stuff. Panzers II/III/IV entered service in 1936/1939/1939, and as you have stated the Tiger entered service in 1942 with the Panther following closely in 1943. Mainland Europe had already been taken and the campaign in Africa was well underway well before either of the latter two tanks entered service, both of which were a direct response to the unexpectedly good tanks the Soviets were using. Although from what I've heard the Tiger in this game isn't actually all that great.
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It looks like they changed how hits give credit with HE for the better. I shot 10 times in this game and got 17 hits. 
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Ludicro posted:Yes, later stuff. Panzers II/III/IV entered service in 1936/1939/1939, and as you have stated the Tiger entered service in 1942 with the Panther following closely in 1943. Mainland Europe had already been taken and the campaign in Africa was well underway well before either of the latter two tanks entered service, both of which were a direct response to the unexpectedly good tanks the Soviets were using. Eh, you don't want to be on the recieving end of the Tiger's gun, let me tell you that. Armor is so-so but mobility isn't half bad. Worst part about it is the bad gun depression compared to the Panther. Of course the Panther is close enough in performance where it it's not outright superior (why is the Panther D before the Panther A in the tech tree? Or rather, why is the germans weird with naming stuff) that there's little reason to pick the Tiger when you can have 2 respawns and artillery to call in. Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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EDIT - Doublepost. Quote is not edit.
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Also is it just my experience, or do Russians in this game drive like they do in all those dashcam videos? The only thing missing is someone actually climbing out the tank and shooting at you.Pimpmust posted:Eh, you don't want to be on the recieving end of the Tiger's gun, let me tell you that. Armor is so-so but mobility isn't half bad. Ah ok, I suppose I could still drive the Tiger and be effective if I really wanted to, I imagine I would really need to pay attention and play to it's strengths.
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Shine posted:That loving owned, it was my favorite moment of CA so far. See I'm hating CA for the exact same reason. It seems like I'll spend a good 5-10 minutes getting perfectly situated, hull down and ranged in taking on 2-3 tanks at a time bouncing shots all over, then some douche in a plane drops a bomb and I'm back to square one. I get why people like CA, but I just want to play tanks.
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The Tiger is great, for a heavy. Heavies aren't very good in this game though, compared to mediums..Pimpmust posted:(why is the Panther D before the Panther A in the tech tree? Or rather, why is the germans weird with naming stuff) The Panther D was the first production Panther, not the A. I don't know why they did that.
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Pimpmust posted:why is the Panther D before the Panther A in the tech tree? Or rather, why is the germans weird with naming stuff My best guess would be that compromises implemented for mass production actually made some variants worse than their predecessors. I remember reading something about the panthers transmission being simplified and getting easier to manufacture gears for example.
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Jun 1, 2014 11:28
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Is there a way to keep the free cam in the replay viewer from snapping back to your tank every few seconds? I'm trying to make a short vidoe but I can't keep it at a useful camera angle like this.
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JacksLibido posted:See I'm hating CA for the exact same reason. It seems like I'll spend a good 5-10 minutes getting perfectly situated, hull down and ranged in taking on 2-3 tanks at a time bouncing shots all over, then some douche in a plane drops a bomb and I'm back to square one. I get why people like CA, but I just want to play tanks. Also, it's probably impossible in SB and difficult in RB to single-pass see and hit a target which means maybe you should move in that interim 30~60+ seconds they have to use from seeing you to setting up a run on you. Or you got teamworked; teamwork is known to be OP... nerf friends.
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Dezztroy posted:The Tiger is great, for a heavy. Heavies aren't very good in this game though, compared to mediums..
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AceRimmer posted:They should really just go ahead and give heavies two respawns since they're sort of pointless otherwise atm, especially in current tiny maps where their armor is basically meaningless. or give no one respawns I have yet to even be fired on by a plane. I also dont stay in the same grid square for long unless I am playing a TD. If I camp its within range of AAA Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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Jun 1, 2014 11:46
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I've been killed by planes a grand total of one time. It was a friendly. I thought friendly tanks had nametags? (Playing SB for whatever it's worth)
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Fauxtool posted:or give no one respawns do you hate fun
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Renaissance Robot posted:do you hate fun Yes, but I think he was talking balance and giving heavies the same amount of respawns wouldnt do that without reevaluating panthers and high tier TDs I just figured out all the ranges for the AAA in Karelia from russian spawn #2 Im getting xp as if I killed 8 people and im clearing the path for my skylord betters. Win Win
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bUm posted:Sounds like it's working as intended (thankfully since arty no longer does dick), hard camp and get bombed. As someone who rarely sits still for longer than two minutes ever unless repairing, I can't help but feel like it wouldn't affect me much (don't know for certain, have abstained for a couple days since it sounded like a messy reintroduction... just like it was in CBT). To each their own. I like flanking and strategy with my tanks, constantly driving around like bumper cars isn't fun for me. They really should at least make it an option to do CA/Tanks only though. quote:Also, it's probably impossible in SB and difficult in RB to single-pass see and hit a target which means maybe you should move in that interim 30~60+ seconds they have to use from seeing you to setting up a run on you. Or you got teamworked; teamwork is known to be OP... nerf friends. It's nowhere near impossible or improbable to get a single pass strafe, they're rare but I see them enough to get annoyed. Moving would be fine if it weren't for the fact that decent tankers can often OHK pretty much any tank. I'm a pretty terrible shot though, so if I move positions after each shot I'll just end up dead, since the first shot will miss, I'll go to move, the enemy will see where I'm at and prepare for me to pop back out of cover then will OHK me. Hence why I like finding good hull down spots, I at least have a chance to do something until someone drops a bomb on me.
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JacksLibido posted:To each their own. I like flanking and strategy with my tanks, constantly driving around like bumper cars isn't fun for me. They really should at least make it an option to do CA/Tanks only though. Those good hull down spots are being watched. In every game there are tanks in the same spots that let me pre aim as i crest the hill and farm free kills. You may have more success if you note all the good spots along the middle of the map and move from spot to spot.
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Easiest way for them to balance Heavies and all vehicles would be if we had the Spawn Points system. God knows why the didn't go with it instead of this Hodge podge they have gone with.
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I hope this can be taken as an amusing insight and not a provocation (I don't think anybody in the WoT thread likes WoWP anyway) 
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Wow makes sense, shoot the parts where things are to damage it.
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Fauxtool posted:Wow makes sense, shoot the parts where things are to damage it. Well it's more of shoot the parts where things aren't.
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Teal posted:Well it's more of shoot the parts where things aren't. red=engine pink=pilot teal=fuel green=control surfaces is that wrong?
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Jun 1, 2014 12:31
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Or those who are too stupid to figure it out, the point is that they are using massive loving boxes which means you don't have to actually hit the plane to damage it. The hitboxen extend way out from the viewmodel.
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Fauxtool posted:red=engine I mean the massive hole in the tail, the tail not really being anywhere close the shape, the wings being half the proper width, the while the fuselage is a massive block far bigger than the actual thing.
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Teal posted:I mean the massive hole in the tail, the tail not really being anywhere close the shape, the wings being half the proper width, the while the fuselage is a massive block far bigger than the actual thing. War thunder hit boxes are the same way
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No fuel in the wings? Isn't that kinda unusual? Also agreed on the respawn thing, the only time Heavies are sorta useful is KV-1s vs low-tier tanks, but seeing as they can go up against PzIVF2 I don't really see the need to give them less respawns. Heavies sacrifice a lot for some dubious armor superiority without even getting into respawns or arty.
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Heavies finally start to matter in t4. Mediums keep small guns similar to t3 while heavies get 122 and 88mm guns that can punch through any medium and most heavies. Mediums cant kill heavies easily Heavies kill other heavies and mediums TDs kill everything and lose to (mediums) flanking Its at least better than the previous tiers where everyone kills everyone. Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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Fauxtool posted:War thunder hit boxes are the same way I can't find the picture now but what I have seen of WT hitboxes, it was much better than that.
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Teal posted:I can't find the picture now but what I have seen of WT hitboxes, it was much better than that. 
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Pimpmust posted:(why is the Panther D before the Panther A in the tech tree? Or rather, why is the germans weird with naming stuff I seem to recall that it wasn't Ausf. D, but ausf. d, for some german word relating to development or something, but I can't seem to find where I read that.
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AceRimmer posted:This? Well it should be planes to be fair, I WoT tank models are far far better than the airplane one I posted (even tho WT ones are still better).
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Forums Terrorist posted:I seem to recall that it wasn't Ausf. D, but ausf. d, for some german word relating to development or something, but I can't seem to find where I read that. "Ausf" stands for "Ausführung", which translates more or less into "variant". So yeah, they can refer to several concurrent variants without making a statement about chronological development. In this case I think A and D were both independent sets of improvements over the initial prototype, and manufactured in different factories. Anyways, I just had a pretty awesome situation with my ZiS-30, so I made a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XodT0jemZMU (watch the killfeed). That long 57mm is kinda insane at tier 1, especially once you get used to hitting the vision slot. I think every single shot of mine knocked out a gunner or loader when it didn't kill them outright. Perestroika fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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Pimpmust posted:No fuel in the wings? Isn't that kinda unusual?
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Teal posted:Well it should be planes to be fair, I WoT tank models are far far better than the airplane one I posted (even tho WT ones are still better).  I don't think Warplanes even has a thread.
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