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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Now now children, settle down and listen to this nice song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE9ZTtMjFsI So many dumb ways to lie.

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CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum
I love this government. If it's not fingers-in-ears shouting at everyone that this is the budget we had to have, it's furious back-pedalling and blatantly contradicting one another. We couldn't even get one of those charming, charismatic fascist governments. Their ineptness would be comedic if you were able to ignore how serious they are and will continue to be.

e:

ewe2 posted:

Now now children, settle down and listen to this nice song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE9ZTtMjFsI So many dumb ways to lie.

I like this potato hamster Abbott.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

I like this potato hamster Abbott.

Yeah, it's about equal to his brainpower.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

I love this government. If it's not fingers-in-ears shouting at everyone that this is the budget we had to have, it's furious back-pedalling and blatantly contradicting one another. We couldn't even get one of those charming, charismatic fascist governments. Their ineptness would be comedic if you were able to ignore how serious they are and will continue to be.
I like this potato hamster Abbott.

At this point, Australia is basically Fawlty towers with Abbott is Basil, trying desperately to cover up lie upon lie and not fooling anybody, whilst trying to impress and fawn over the upper class he pines to, while taking every opportunity to punish the riff raff he thinks are below him.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Zenithe posted:

At this point, Australia is basically Fawlty towers with Abbott is Basil, trying desperately to cover up lie upon lie and not fooling anybody, whilst trying to impress and fawn over the upper class he pines to, while taking every opportunity to punish the riff raff he thinks are below him.

This means I get to see someone get garden-gnomed at some point YAY.

Goodpart
Jan 9, 2004

quarter circle forward punch
quarter circle forward punch
quarter circle forward punch
rip

Zenithe posted:

At this point, Australia is basically Fawlty towers with Abbott is Basil, trying desperately to cover up lie upon lie and not fooling anybody, whilst trying to impress and fawn over the upper class he pines to, while taking every opportunity to punish the riff raff he thinks are below him.
Amusingly, he almost nails the "don't mention the war" thing.

Nuclear Spy
Jun 10, 2008

feeling under?
This guy is absolutely pumping out the Fireman Tony photoshops (every 5-10 mins):

Brayds2006
Aug 21, 2011

Zenithe posted:

At this point, Australia is basically Fawlty towers with Abbott is Basil, trying desperately to cover up lie upon lie and not fooling anybody, whilst trying to impress and fawn over the upper class he pines to, while taking every opportunity to punish the riff raff he thinks are below him.

There's also only 12 episodes of Fawlty Towers, which gives me (false) hope that Fawlty HORers will last just as briefly.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Nuclear Spy posted:

This guy is absolutely pumping out the Fireman Tony photoshops (every 5-10 mins):


e: beaten.

Wistful of Dollars fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jun 1, 2014

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Canberra Times posted:

Private schools caning pupils, the abolition of ACT self-government, licences for cyclists, a privatised ACTION bus network and minimum sentences for child sex offenders.

Is this what life in Canberra would be like if the Young Liberals were in charge?

A set of policy proposals to be considered by ACT party members suggests private schools "should be offered the option of disciplining students through corporal punishment, with the use of a cane".

It calls for the ACT Government to be stripped of all legal authority until territory voters support a referendum proposal establishing self-government, and says a national sex offenders' register should be established with full public access.

It also calls for all public housing to be privatised and tenants to be subject to a voucher system.

The ambitious policy document, obtained by The Canberra Times, is to be debated at a June 14 Young Liberals meeting at the Australian National University.

Despite reading like a broad-based, right-wing political manifesto, the document's 23 individual motions will be debated as part of policy development. The document is divided into three sections: local, federal and "nanny state".

If carried, some of the motions may be considered at future Liberal Party conferences. Divided into three sections, including local, federal and "nanny state" proposals, it also calls for all public housing to be privatised and tenants to be subject to a voucher system.

Motions support the scuttling of Canberra's proposed light rail network, the creation of compulsory third-party insurance and licenses for cyclists and a 10-year moratorium on increases to federal government expenditure.

"The ACT Young Liberals call on the ACT Government to abolish legislation requiring cyclists to wear helmets," the document says.

"The ACT Young Liberals call on the federal government to begin measuring foreign aid spending against outcomes achieved, rather than a targeted percentage of GDP."

One suggestion will win support from Palmer United Party leader and Fairfax MP Clive Palmer. It calls on the Abbott government to replace the existing ComCar network with a taxi-based service operated by the Department of Finance. Mr Palmer has criticised the ComCar service since joining Parliament.

ACT Young Liberals secretary James Baillie declined to comment on the document circulated last week.

The Canberra Times understands some Young Liberals are critical of the proposals and are concerned the group is being overrun by hard right-wing sentiment. Some members are believed to be disillusioned with the Young Liberals policy process.

Debate will follow the group's general meeting and a proposal to adopt the federal Liberal Party's logo in place of one showing the facade of Canberra's Parliament House.

Other motions included calling on the NSW, Victorian and federal governments to sell the Snowy Hydro scheme and offer support to an Abbott government initiative merging immigration, customs and border protection agencies as the Australian Border Force.

Other controversial federal budget measures, including the deregulation of universities and easing of tax structures, are supported.

Members will be asked to condemn "recent violence perpetrated against current and former Liberal Party MPs on campuses across Australia as abhorrent conduct".

The motion calls for universities to expel students involved in the recent protests that have targeted Foreign Minister Julie Bishop and former Coalition MP Sophie Mirabella.

The ACT Young Liberals recently congratulated Prime Minister Tony Abbott on his move to reintroduce Australian knights and dames.

Despite opposition from some Coalition MPs, members welcomed the move as a "long-standing ACT Young Liberal policy motion".

The 1978 advisory referendum on territory self-government won just 30.54 per cent support. Parliament passed the act granting self-government 1988, establishing the Legislative Assembly.

Your daily reminder that the Liberal party are collectively human garbage. The ACT Young Libs are getting bolstered by all of the new staffers working in Canberra, which means these ideas are getting fed back to sitting Government ministers.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

But I thought we all agreed helmets are bad.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Sir Coq of Nandos posted:

Your daily reminder that the Liberal party are collectively human garbage. The ACT Young Libs are getting bolstered by all of the new staffers working in Canberra, which means these ideas are getting fed back to sitting Government ministers.

Those wacky Young Libs!

Still laughing at the privatisation of public housing and bringing in a voucher system.

Although I wonder how many adult Liberal Party members will be lining around the block if corporal punishment is brought back in at private schools. Could we see Pyne asking for more, please?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

You Am I posted:


Still laughing at the privatisation of public housing and bringing in a voucher system.


:what: Vouchers?

Anyhow, I've heard people talk about privatisation of public housing in Vic from time to time and I have no idea who would want to pick it up? Those highrise estates that are dotted around Melbourne are all cost sinks, the buildings are hitting or have passed their expected lifetime and now cost more to maintain then they generate in rent by a long shot.

We've done some preliminary research of what it would take for an agency like ours to take one of those estates on board (because of the anticipated plan that DHS will handover public housing stock to Community Housing agencies) and the ongoing maintenance and LRM (capital upgrades, cyclical replacement of plant & equipment, etc) of just one of those high rise estates is more than we could afford.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Those On My Beet posted:

Those highrise estates that are dotted around Melbourne are all cost sinks, the buildings are hitting or have passed their expected lifetime and now cost more to maintain then they generate in rent by a long shot.

Are you talking about what I've heard called "housing commission flats", like on the corner of Brunswick St and Gertrude?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Those On My Left posted:

Are you talking about what I've heard called "housing commission flats", like on the corner of Brunswick St and Gertrude?

Yes.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Some of them are going through a redevelopment, one of those PPP (public / private partnership). So in the redevelopment of the site x% is public, y% is private and that's how the private developers make a profit. Unfortunately if an estate had 3000 tenancies and it was redeveloped you might only get 2000 on the redeveloped site. (made up numbers just to give an example). So you are updating the housing stock, but also reducing affordable housing.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Nuclear Spy posted:

This guy is absolutely pumping out the Fireman Tony photoshops (every 5-10 mins):


gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Nuclear Spy posted:

This guy is absolutely pumping out the Fireman Tony photoshops (every 5-10 mins):


This guy has 156,000 tweets. How is that even possible :psyduck:

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Sir Coq of Nandos posted:

Your daily reminder that the Liberal party are collectively human garbage. The ACT Young Libs are getting bolstered by all of the new staffers working in Canberra, which means these ideas are getting fed back to sitting Government ministers.

Who the hell would buy ACTION? You'd have to pay someone to take it away.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011
A: A single rich masochist who enjoys taking the least efficient method of travelling between town centres.

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009
This been posted yet?

http://www.smh.com.au/national/revealed-monte-carlo-address-of-donor-linked-to-liberal-party-fund-20140601-39ci7.html

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

And people wonder why there is no federal ICAC?

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Those On My Beet posted:

But I thought we all agreed helmets are bad.

I've never seen my girlfriends housemate as excited as when he found out that I was mentioning bike helmet laws in a university essay. It was just a brief few lines as an example of legislation that can lead to people using alternative transport (with no commentary on the usefulness of such laws) but he reacted with religious fervour .

He has previously run as a LDP candidate and it turns out his current passion is helmet laws and the gross violation of peoples rights that they represent. To hear him talk you'd think a bike helmet had killed his mother. He gave me a business card for his anti-helmet Facebook group and told me all about the big protest coming up he as helping to organise, where a group of cyclists were going to ride along Adelaide's Linear Park without helmets. This was especially exciting for him because the Police had agreed to escort the cyclists and wouldn't be issuing helmet fines for those participating sans head protection.

I didn't go, but my girlfriend was persuaded to participate. So a few dozen of them rode, risking certain brain damage and accompanied by a few police officers monitoring them, all other crime in Adelaide apparently having taken a pause for this bold protest. At one point some ABC news cameras came along and my girlfriend found herself in the spotlight.

The reporter asked her "Why do you think we should abolish helmet laws for cyclists"

My girlfriend paused, and thought about the question.

"This ride is nice, but I actually think that helmets should be mandatory for riding on roads."

I've never been so proud.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.


I'm highly impressed with the ability of the Greens to do so well, given that they had just over 3.5% of the donations that the Liberals got.

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

Senor Tron posted:

risking certain brain damage

It's either risky or certain. Can't be both. :colbert:

I ride my bike without a helmet every day, half the time on narrow, busy roads with no footpaths; often with cars passing closely on the right and a straight drop into a flooded rice paddy closely on the left. So do most of the students at my high school. The convenience of just jumping on a bike and taking off somewhere is, seriously, one of the reasons I choose to live in Japan; it makes that much of a difference to my quality of life. I love bikes, but when I live in Australia, I ride them exactly never.

gently caress helmet laws. They deter people from riding bikes, and fewer bikes = less bike safety around cars.

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009
Wait, why do helmets deter people from riding bikes?

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

oh jesus

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002


Yeeeessss!

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

*flips off entire thread*

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Ragingsheep posted:

Wait, why do helmets deter people from riding bikes?

Ostensibly,

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein

Ragingsheep posted:

Wait, why do helmets deter people from riding bikes?

gently caress You

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Ragingsheep posted:

Wait, why do helmets deter people from riding bikes?

Because people are whiny hipster babies who can't handle the thought of even one hair being put out of place by a piece of protective equipment.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-02/no-need-for-frankston-by-election-if-shaw-is-expelled/5493400

quote:

There would be no need to hold a by-election in Frankston if independent MP Geoff Shaw is found to be in contempt of Parliament, former speaker Ken Smith has said.

Mr Smith said the Parliament could continue to function without Mr Shaw, if Speaker Christine Fyffe broke with convention to vote with the Government.

"The Government would be in a position where there are 43 Labor and 43 Liberals (Coalition) and the speaker," he said.

"The Speaker would be put under a fair amount of pressure to make rulings on most of the votes."

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

fatman posted:

I know ill do something to warrant that, jet off to another country, expect to be handed everything, just the sort of unhinged person i want living next door to me.
In which case I hope you have excluded yourself from being an organ recipient:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/asylum-seeker-dies-after-suffering-burns-to-90-per-cent-of-his-body-20140601-39c4w.html

quote:

"He feared for his life if he was returned to Sri Lanka," Mr Mylvaganam said. "His housemates have told me he repeatedly talked about being sent back, he was quite worried about it."
Trevor Grant, a convenor at the Tamil Refugee Council, said: "He knew that if he was sent back he'd face persecution from the military." Mr Grant said Mr Seemanpillai suffered depression after fleeing Sri Lanka about five years ago and living in a refugee camp in India. Mr Grant said he understood Mr Seemanpillai had a soft drink bottle full of petrol which he poured on himself and set himself alight. Mr Mylvaganam said that Mr Seemanpillai had previously expressed his wish to be an organ donor, and his liver, an eye, both kidneys and a lung were removed for donation. "We were in communication with the family last night and they wanted his organs to be donated, and as a result five people have benefited," he said.

He took his life because it was his only way of having agency in his life and in doing so deliberately helped others in the country that had refused to help him.

Between him and you I know who I'd prefer to have living next to me.

Just while we are addressing lolbertarian nut jobs meet David Leyonhjelm (LDP senator)

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/david-leyonhjelm/5492988

You'll have to listen to the audio but he is joining forces with Family First to be a mini-block who will vote for essentially everything in the budget except for the tax rises. Even though he acknowledges that the LDP and the FFP are entirely at odds over personal freedoms they are close enough on the economy that they will be in lock step in the senate for six years...

Not depressed enough yet? I have more, of course I do.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/greg-hunt/5493174

Again you'll have to listen to the Audio for the full horror.

quote:

Environment Minister Greg Hunt joins RN Breakfast to discuss a new report showing that Australia's mammal extinction rate is the worst in the world.

We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! :australia:

Anti bike helmet campaigners are like anti seat belt campaigners. No amount of evidence will sway them so there is no point in arguing. They are the LNP of rational debate.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Cartoon posted:

In which case I hope you have excluded yourself from being an organ recipient:

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/asylum-seeker-dies-after-suffering-burns-to-90-per-cent-of-his-body-20140601-39c4w.html


He took his life because it was his only way of having agency in his life and in doing so deliberately helped others in the country that had refused to help him.

Between him and you I know who I'd prefer to have living next to me.

Just while we are addressing lolbertarian nut jobs meet David Leyonhjelm (LDP senator)

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/david-leyonhjelm/5492988

You'll have to listen to the audio but he is joining forces with Family First to be a mini-block who will vote for essentially everything in the budget except for the tax rises. Even though he acknowledges that the LDP and the FFP are entirely at odds over personal freedoms they are close enough on the economy that they will be in lock step in the senate for six years...

Not depressed enough yet? I have more, of course I do.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/greg-hunt/5493174

Again you'll have to listen to the Audio for the full horror.


We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! We're No. 1! :australia:

Anti bike helmet campaigners are like anti seat belt campaigners. No amount of evidence will sway them so there is no point in arguing. They are the LNP of rational debate.

From memory, and it may not have been you, the last few times we've done this you've posted some data about reduction in instances of head trauma since the helmets came in, yeah? Was that you?

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein
When did "unfettered free market capitalism" become something that puts "families" first?

Nuclear Spy
Jun 10, 2008

feeling under?

Those On My Beet posted:

From memory, and it may not have been you, the last few times we've done this you've posted some data about reduction in instances of head trauma since the helmets came in, yeah? Was that you?
Would be good to get these numbers as a proportion of the number of cyclists and whether the total number of cyclists reduced after the helmet laws were introduced.

Mr Chips
Jun 27, 2007
Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

:goonsay: that picture's not from Normandy.

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Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Those On My Beet posted:

From memory, and it may not have been you, the last few times we've done this you've posted some data about reduction in instances of head trauma since the helmets came in, yeah? Was that you?
Yeah but if you read my post you'll appreciate why I'm not going to bother reposting it just to argue with Chicken. If you really want the data google it because :effort: I'd rather advocate for better treatment of refugees/The environment/the poor.

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