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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Tias posted:

It's.. beautiful.

Freepers: Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about

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Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

Georgia Peach posted:

Um, I don't know anything about this guy, but is there some sort of evidence he deserted to help the Taliban or whatever poo poo these freepers are saying? The only story about the incident I've seen that addressed his capture was that the details were unclear.

There is material, like the email's he sent to his parents while deployed, that do raise questions. He also learned pashto and grew very close to the local Aghans. He also made comments to other soldiers suggesting he would just head off into the mountains at some point. It doesn't seem like he wanted to help the Taliban, just that he got sick of both sides hurting so many people and decided to just end his role in the war entirely.

Also, he was held by the Haqqani Network, not the Taliban. The difference is nuanced, but important, as Haqqani also focuses on the international whereas the Taliban does not. If the Taliban had him, they would have likely wanted more local prisoners, likely ones in Bagram.

limeincoke
Jul 3, 2005

Heroes of the Storm
Goon Tournament Champion
One of his old platoon mates has also been going against the NDA he signed when this first happened and was posting actual sequence of events last night (drunk maybe?) that make it pretty clear the guy was an idiot and had been planning on deserting for a long time.

Georgia Peach
Jan 7, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

Thanks for the info. I was skeptical because that's my first reaction when freepers start latching on to some sort of narrative.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Cythereal posted:

Freepers: Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about
This is actually true, though. Just look at Paul Ryan budgets!

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

quote:

To: ex-snook

There is a huge problem giving up 5 senior jihadists (who will return to duty, killing Americans and training others how to do the task) to get back a treasonous anti American deserter.

Obama? Yep! IS the Taliban in the White House.

He should be tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.

America needs to be restored!

31 posted on Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:41:32 AM by himno hero (hadnuff)

That's funny, I figured senior jihadists farmed out that kind of work to their terrorism assistants while they rested on their laurels and cranked out the occasional "death to the Great Satan" video to keep the funds rolling in. After all, they worked hard for their tenure, dammit :v:

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

SatansOnion posted:

That's funny, I figured senior jihadists farmed out that kind of work to their terrorism assistants while they rested on their laurels and cranked out the occasional "death to the Great Satan" video to keep the funds rolling in. After all, they worked hard for their tenure, dammit :v:

It's like the Office Space of terrorism.

"I'm going to need you to come in over the weekend for a suicide bombing."
"But it's my weekend off."
"Listen, how about this: You come in Saturday, you don't have to come in on Sunday."

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

Georgia Peach posted:

Thanks for the info. I was skeptical because that's my first reaction when freepers start latching on to some sort of narrative.

Frrepers are just being their normal ignorant selves, as always I guess. I can only speak from my experience, but most soldiers have similar thoughts to some things expressed by Bergdahl about the impact war has on people just trying to live their lives, especially if they build any type of relationship with the locals. It sounds like Bergdahl had some other issues going on, but I understand some element of his worldview. Walking off into the desert is a bad idea obviously, but any soldier who says they loved every part of their deployment, never had any doubts about their actions on mission and has no regrets whatsoever about their role is either lying or is someone who is sociopathic. I got to know quite a few Iraqis and what happened / is happening to them and their country really sucks on multiple levels.

turnip kid
May 24, 2010
His dad also posted this a couple days ago on twitter

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/472908702887215105

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

To: SeekAndFind
My ideal 2016 Republican Ticket:

Admitted War Criminal Allen West — Dr. Benjamin Carson
14 posted on Sunday, June 01, 2014 8:51:18 AM by KeyLargo

It was bugging me that that post had such a glaring error in it, so I took the liberty of fixing it.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
West/Carson 2016: Come On, Darkies, What Else Do We Have To Do?

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Acquilae posted:

It was the same a while back with the black high school student who was accepted to all the Ivy league schools was berated for being a product of affirmative action on freep. If you're a minority you can't win with freepers; if you're a minority and didn't graduate high school, you're [insert ethnic/racial slur] and if you're a minority and accepted into a good college, high-paying job, a prominent position like an executive or flag officer in Shinseki's case, it's all because of affirmative action and stealing what belonged to a white, conservative American.

A clear case of white conservative American males wanting ALL THE THINGS and the minorities having only what the white conservative American males allow them to have. Par for the course for Freepers.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Everyday Lurker posted:

A clear case of white conservative American males wanting ALL THE THINGS and the minorities having only what the white conservative American males allow them to have. Par for the course for Freepers.

Complete with a myth of the put-upon white male and minority privilege.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Vagabundo posted:

Complete with a myth of the put-upon white male and minority privilege.

I actually occasionally hear right wingers saying out loud that talking point about white males being the only group that it's fair to discriminate against. They have huffed their own farts out of a paper bag so long they don't even realize how this stuff sounds coming out of their mouths.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Zwabu posted:

I actually occasionally hear right wingers saying out loud that talking point about white males being the only group that it's fair to discriminate against. They have huffed their own farts out of a paper bag so long they don't even realize how this stuff sounds coming out of their mouths.

Plenty of white moderates and even some leftists believe it too, so as long as no minorities are nearby it tends to go over well. Any white people who disagree with them are the victims of PC brainwashing.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Workaround for Christian Businesses

Liberals HATE this!

Learn one weird trick that will keep you from having to serve filthy homos ever again!

OP posted:

And that’s the solution. Christian businesses need to specify that they make, for example, “Christian marriage” cakes. ONLY. Because under corporate contractual law, “marriage” is NOT the same term as “Christian marriage.” PERIOD. And as long as a business sticks to their definition of “Christian marriage cakes,” the general statutory term “marriage” cannot be applied to what they do.

How does this apply to homosexuals? Easy - the point was NEVER about homosexuals, but rather homosexual WEDDINGS. Christian bakers WILL sell anything in their shops to homosexuals - even cakes. But they refuse to do a homosexual wedding cake because of the marriage part - not the cake part. Therefore there is no way for the State to separate the “marriage” from the “cake,” and therefore the phrase “wedding cake” CAN have a limited meaning for the Christian baker, as long as they restrict themselve to only those limited terms. And the entire concept of homosexuality can be ignored by simply focusing on the Christian denominations served, or the Christian churches served, by “special orders” of “wedding cakes” for those purposes ONLY.


quote:

To: Talisker

Another work around is to have a private “club”. Sell only to your members. $1 membership dues refundable on the first purchase. Retain the right to cancel membership at any time.

3 posted on 5/30/2014, 4:07:44 PM by taxcontrol

quote:

To: Talisker

Yeah, up to the point where you get a liberal judge who doesn’t really care about the actual law.

4 posted on 5/30/2014, 4:10:26 PM by bolobaby

quote:

To: Talisker

Personally? I have no problem selling to any honest person, in my business.

However, for those who object? Why not REQUIRE certain Bible Quotes to be printed on every cake box, or to be read by every DJ, as part of the “service provided” The Catering truck, the DJ Van, etc. can all be used for whatever message you wish to make.

It might hurt your business a little bit, but -— it might help too.

It is amazing to me how uncreative some business owners are.

5 posted on 5/30/2014, 4:13:50 PM by Kansas58

Checkmate, Homos! :smug:

quote:

To: Kansas58

I had a similar idea when this whole thing blew up.

Some people on here were saying to do nasty things to the cake, etc. That can land you in a whole bunch of trouble.

The idea I had was to print “Genesis 2:24” in frosting on every single cake you make.

Christians 1, homosexual activists 0.

7 posted on 5/30/2014, 4:25:03 PM by angryoldfatman

loving Judges, what do they know about law! :argh:

quote:

To: bolobaby

Yeah, up to the point where you get a liberal judge who doesn’t really care about the actual law.

The more liberal the judge, the more they focus on the intricacies of corporate definitions. It's HOW they do WHAT they do.

10 posted on 5/30/2014, 4:42:05 PM by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)

quote:

To: Talisker

Judges don’t care about the law or the constitution, you think a contract is going to stop them?

13 posted on 5/30/2014, 5:10:53 PM by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)

quote:

To: Talisker

Today, the state of CO ruled that the poor Christian baker must report to the state how often he serves gay customers and must under go re-education camps for gay proproganda.

I think the best way around the gay gestapo is to say,

“Sure, I’ll bake you a wedding cake. But I view homosexuality behavior as sinful. To allieve my conscience, all proceeds will go to the Alliance Defense Fund/Focus on the Family/NARTH/Catholic Courage.”

The Gay Gestapo would be disguised at the thought of their money being used to fund these groups and decline patronizing such stores. Also, I would like the govt to try and tell people how they can spend their money.

15 posted on 5/30/2014, 6:22:44 PM by yongin

Hey, why don't don't we make our cakes so lovely that they never come back? That'll show 'em! :smug:

quote:

To: MNDude

Christians should just make poor quality cakes for gay weddings they oppose and queers will stop using their services.

21 posted on 5/31/2014, 7:29:28 AM by SaraJohnson

If you're interested in word salads the Topic Creator has been dumping them throughout the entire thread. For example:

quote:

To: yongin

Today, the state of CO ruled that the poor Christian baker must report to the state how often he serves gay customers and must under go re-education camps for gay proproganda.

That's because he generally applied, but refused to accept, the legal definition of the un-modified statutory term "marriage" in the course of his business. According to corporate statutory law, the word "marriage" - when used in the general sense for corporate purposes - includes homosexual marriage. So to exclude homosexual marriages from the use of the unmodified word "marriage" in the course of business is illegal.

Under the current law, it's exactly the same issue as saying that you will serve the general public, but then exclude particular people because of age, race, sex or religion. You simply can't do that - "general public" includes all of those people by law, and likewise (these days) "marriage" includes homosexual marriage.

So that's why, if he wanted to restrict his application of his work for the purposes of the TYPES of marriages that HE wanted to bake cakes for, then he needed to SPECIFY that he would only do SPECIAL WEDDING CAKE ORDERS for marriages that were being done under certain religious traditions or churches that HE wanted to do them for - and no others.

And in addition, he would have to not, within the course of his business, say anything that would express rejection of homosexuality as a condition under which he was willing to do general business.

This kind of language counts. It's the way the world currently works. I'm not praising it, I'm just pointing out the fact of it. And I'm also pointing out that there is a way that Christians can not bake cakes for homosexual marriages that the law will accept. That's all.

23 posted on 5/31/2014, 5:30:02 PM by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

Jagged Jim posted:

Workaround for Christian Businesses

Liberals HATE this!

Learn one weird trick that will keep you from having to serve filthy homos ever again!

Does the cake have a gold fringe, this is important for reasons I haven't sat through youtube explanations of yet.

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

Does the cake have a gold fringe, this is important for reasons I haven't sat through youtube explanations of yet.

Beaten to the punch, you magnificient bastard :argh:

Finnankainen
Oct 14, 2012
Obama to impose carbon pollution cap on power plants

Literally everything Obama has done is illegal

quote:

To: lowbridge

Now I’m one to be “fair and balanced”.

I always attribute treason and criminality to both parties, since they deserve they attribution.

Don’t want to steal anyone’s thunder.

But a thought just occurred: is there even ONE thing - just ONE - that this administration has done that is actually Legal, Constitutional and Moral ?

One thing ?

Can anyone remember one ?

Anyone ? Anyone ? Bueller ?

4 posted on 6/1/2014, 12:03:39 PM by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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quote:

To: lowbridge

Carbon is not a pollutant no matter what the schizophrenic US Supreme Court senile morons decree. Carbon is an integral component of life. If you are anti-carbon, you are anti-life.

9 posted on 6/1/2014, 12:08:09 PM by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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quote:

To: lowbridge

A congress that does not impeach him has abandoned their duty.

13 posted on 6/1/2014, 12:15:12 PM by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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quote:

To: plain talk
There is no such thing as carbon pollution.

Thank you for pointing out such a cogent point...

So according to liberals I am sucking in pollution every time I breath...
23 posted on 6/1/2014, 12:26:42 PM by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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Global warming can't be happening because coal isn't instantly lethal!

quote:

To: lowbridge

So now we know why the shares of two major coal companies fell so sharply on the New York Stock Exchange on Friday, registering new lows for the year.

And we also know how foolish it was for coal miners and their unions to support Barack Obama in his two presidential elections.

If ‘’carbon pollution’’ was one-tenth as harmful as the environmentalists claim, coal miners would be dead after working only a few years. Instead, they live and flourish long enough to expect to be awarded hefty union-secured pensions, which they will no longer be able to receive once Obama’s law destroys the coal companies and their pension funds.

40 posted on 6/1/2014, 12:44:44 PM by Bluestocking
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A rare moment of clarity.

quote:

To: firebrand

I realize I’m speaking gibberish. Second “transgression” should be “law” or something. That’s what happens when I try to sound moderate.

53 posted on 6/1/2014, 2:01:43 PM by firebrand
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Not actually as anti-Semitic as I originally thought but still pretty bad.

quote:

To: JRandomFreeper

The fact is that the Republican party and their leadership hate and despise Conservatives every bit (and perhaps more) than the Democrat MarxoFascists do.

The fact the GOP leadership declared war on Conservatives and ‘vowed to crush us wherever they find us’ is conveniently ignored by the party hacks like you see on this thread.

Now we’re “purists’ according to the talking points the entire Ruling Class and the media propagandists are running with.

There is a reason I consider the GOP leadership to be nothing but political Judenrats for the Democrat party. Because that is what they are.

84 posted on 6/1/2014, 7:42:12 PM by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

quote:

To: lowbridge

Carbon is not a pollutant no matter what the schizophrenic US Supreme Court senile morons decree. Carbon is an integral component of life. If you are anti-carbon, you are anti-life.

9 posted on 6/1/2014, 12:08:09 PM by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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You're saying I shouldn't eat this iron nail? Stupid liberal, iron is a necessity for the human body. :smug:

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Twelve by Pies posted:

You're saying I shouldn't eat this iron nail? Stupid liberal, iron is a necessity for the human body. :smug:

What do you mean "You shouldn't smoke in a pure oxygen environment"? We need oxygen to breathe, idiot, and I won't let some pinko communist tell me where I can and can not smoke!

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Even setting aside the difference between carbon dioxide and coal for a second, coal miners routinely get "black lung" from breathing in particulate and it can be fatal.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

quote:

To: plain talk
There is no such thing as carbon pollution.

Thank you for pointing out such a cogent point...

So according to liberals I am sucking in pollution every time I breath...

23 posted on 6/1/2014, 12:26:42 PM by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

The cluelessness and willful ignorance are palpable.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Not sure about breathing in, but I can tell you that everything that comes out of that man's mouth is toxic.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Elephant Ambush posted:

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

The cluelessness and willful ignorance are palpable.

What's the opposite of a strawman argument? Because he's taking a literally true thing, that he is breathing in pollution of some sort at all times, and acting as though it's not a real argument.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Feinne posted:

What's the opposite of a strawman argument? Because he's taking a literally true thing, that he is breathing in pollution of some sort at all times, and acting as though it's not a real argument.

It really is just willful ignorance. They've heard a million times that pollution is all around us at all times and they just bury their heads in the sand.

Acquilae
May 15, 2013

Elephant Ambush posted:

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

The cluelessness and willful ignorance are palpable.
I'm imagining a bunch of carbon allotropes and buckyballs just blowing around in the air before being inhaled by someone :allears:

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Finnankainen posted:

If ‘’carbon pollution’’ was one-tenth as harmful as the environmentalists claim, coal miners would be dead after working only a few years. Instead, they live and flourish long enough to expect to be awarded hefty union-secured pensions, which they will no longer be able to receive once Obama’s law destroys the coal companies and their pension funds.

:stare:

This dude must not be from a coal state. The idea that coal miners "flourish" is amazing. Also, pensions are evil :psyduck:

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Sir Tonk posted:

:stare:

This dude must not be from a coal state. The idea that coal miners "flourish" is amazing. Also, pensions are evil :psyduck:

Union pensions are because UNIONS.

Seriously anyone that has been to or ever lived in a mining town can tell anyone who could get out did.

TravBot
Oct 10, 2004

If we can hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards Checkmate

Sir Tonk posted:

:stare:

This dude must not be from a coal state. The idea that coal miners "flourish" is amazing. Also, pensions are evil :psyduck:

Just remember, the Free Market will take care of anything, unless it's ruined by liberal thugs sabotaging it through such underhanded tactics as pointing out that it's "horrible for the world" or "run by unapologetic racists who actually believe that black people are here for our entertainment and should be seen and not heard."

Also something about allowing other religions to practice being an infringement of my first amendment right to freedom of religion or something.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
drat fuckers, you love coal so much but you can't even praise coal miners with vaguely homoerotic paeans to their sweaty toil?

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Freepers: If you are anti-carbon, you are anti-life.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Logikv9 posted:

you are anti-life

How did they know?

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

fool_of_sound posted:

How did they know?

Because we looooooooooooooove death!

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Gotta wonder what they think of Billy Elliot, in all honesty.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Because we looooooooooooooove death!

Look at all the abortions we do!

The Anime Turnpike
Dec 30, 2010

Coal is a fundamental part of the human body right? Just like water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ6Ex8E1q50

The Anime Turnpike fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 2, 2014

kik2dagroin
Mar 23, 2007

Use the anger. Use it.
[San Fran] Muni Faces Major Delays With Two-Thirds Of Vehicles Not Running Due To Worker ‘Sickout’

quote:

To: Olog-hai
My attitude is that if you get a government *paycheck* (not to be confused with a social security check) and you’re not a uniformed member of the Armed Forces you’re probably a Maoist parasite hack.


3 posted on 6/2/2014 10:59:42 AM by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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How convenient he leaves out social security :mmmhmm:

quote:

To: Olog-hai
There is nothing wrong with San Francisco that wouldn’t be solved by an 8.7 quake


11 posted on 6/2/2014 11:13:31 AM by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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quote:

To: bert
There is nothing wrong with San Francisco that wouldn’t be solved by an 8.7 quake
8.7? You lack imagination.I'd say 10.7

Just to be sure

13 posted on 6/2/2014 11:23:03 AM by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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Fearing Rising Backlash, NRA Urges Gun Activists to Stand Down
Who would have thought people open carrying assault rifles in public places would cause discomfort? :shrug:

quote:

To: windcliff
In an extraordinary statement, the NRA denounced the open-carry demonstrations as "foolishness" and "downright weird."
I agree. Going out of your way to make people uncomfortable by open-carrying a rifle into a public restaurant, just to make a point, is counter-productive.

5 posted on 06/02/2014 8:34:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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quote:

To: PapaBear3625
I agree. Going out of your way to make people uncomfortable by open-carrying a rifle into a public restaurant, just to make a point, is counter-productive.
Yep, like those Negroes that had the audacity to sit at the lunch counter or the gays with their PDA's and parades.

25 posted on 06/02/2014 9:14:14 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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quote:

To: NY.SS-Bar9
Yep, like those Negroes that had the audacity to sit at the lunch counter or the gays with their PDA's and parades.
Neither of which can be considered to be behavior that would make a reasonable person concerned that an act of violence was about to occur. Something that CANNOT be said about walking into a place while holding an AR-15, given recent history of mass murder incidents.

I don't know about you, but if I'm sitting at a diner and somebody walks in holding an AR-15 (not just slung over the shoulder, or better-yet in a bag, but HOLDING), I'm going to react the same way as if somebody walked in holding a handgun in his hand, namely assume that a robbery or massacre is imminent.

One of these days, one of these open-carry idiots is going to walk into a place holding a rifle, somebody is going to become alarmed enough to draw and blow the guy away, and if I'm on the jury I WILL NOT VOTE TO CONVICT, on the basis of reasonable self-defense.

30 posted on 06/02/2014 9:40:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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quote:

To: windcliff
This is a real catch-22. If you don’t excercise a right, you might lose it. On the other hand, some open carry in some situations is probably not prudent.

I have a CCW permit and prefer that method over advertising myself as a carrier. But I do open carry handguns in some nearby rural towns.


10 posted on 6/2/2014 10:39:48 AM by umgud
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quote:

To: All
I was downtown Dallas with my daughter when we just happened to walk by the activists. I’m not against open carry, but this is just not the right way to do this. Unfortunately it unnerved my daughter. I explained to her what was going on and she chilled out.

The average bystander, not knowing what the heck is going on, could possibly over react, etc. There just too many opportunities for something to go wrogn. If I was a restaurant owner, I would have politely asked them to demonstrate somewhere else or would have contacted police to report.

Overall, it was just surreal...that’s all. Not used to seeing this.


13 posted on 6/2/2014 10:45:36 AM by Maringa
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Your Faith is Now Intrinsically Offensive. Are You Ready for the Fallout?

quote:

To: Gamecock
None of us crave persecution, but I do believe we Christians thrive in God under it. Opposition enlivens me, but when left alone and rejected by standing for the Gospel there is a temptation to self-question. Am I being “judgmental”, “rude”, “arrogant”, “nosy”, etc.? These and others are the accusations. Sometimes they come from other believers.

I know many do not believe in “private faith”, but if we take this piece seriously we’d all BETTER have a private faith that is real as we will likely lose a lot of the people we’ve called friends/family. But we’re never in a bogus type of private faith if we’re born of God through Christ.

I think of the “others” in Hebrews, mentioned at the end of the “hall of faith”. They were cast-outs, alone, martyred...”of whom the world was not worthy”.

But they were worthy in the Father’s sight.


11 posted on 6/2/2014 10:47:45 AM by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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quote:

To: Gamecock
The left is actively working to eliminate Christianity and Judaism.


2 posted on 6/2/2014 10:11:33 AM by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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quote:

To: I want the USA back
Islam is far more conservative and they would have to eliminate it also.


4 posted on 06/02/2014 8:16:52 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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I don’t see that happening. If anything today’s socialists seem as eager to ally themselves with Islamicists as Hitler was.

Unlike Christianity Islam fits quite comfortably into a controlling totalitarian state


12 posted on 06/02/2014 8:59:20 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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They won’t target Islam, because the surface issues they use (”gay rights”) are not the real issue.

The real issue/goal is the criminalization of Christianity.
They won’t address Islam until after this goal is fully implemented. At that point, they’ll probably abandon the gays as no longer useful and embrace Islam.


14 posted on 06/02/2014 9:03:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Yes, they actively seek to replace the very foundations of “God created” with the godlessness of evolution.


5 posted on 6/2/2014 10:17:51 AM by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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My skin color and gender were deemed intrinsically offensive years ago - what’s one more thing? :)


8 posted on 6/2/2014 10:26:35 AM by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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Gallup Poll: Strong Majority Now Believe Gays Should Be Allowed to Adopt Kids

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Yep.

This country has absolutely cornered the market on stupidity.

America has an absolute monopoly on stupidity.


4 posted on 6/2/2014 11:33:23 AM by chris37 (heartless)
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freepers: an absolute monopoly on stupidity

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I’m sorry, but I don’t believe this. Americans have been threatened and punished for giving their opinions, and now the only opinions you do get are from those spouting the PC line.


5 posted on 6/2/2014 11:33:29 AM by July4
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So, you think the 35 percent who are opposed are in danger of being threatened and punished for giving their opinions?


8 posted on 06/02/2014 9:34:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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So, you think the 35 percent who are opposed are in danger of being threatened and punished for giving their opinions?

The point is that many fear they might be. Intimidation accomplished. I think July4 is absolutely right. Such polls are skewed by their very nature.

13 posted on 06/02/2014 9:40:16 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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If this is true, then we are lost as a nation. Completely.

I see that TV show with the two queers and their adopted daughter and I seen untold manipulation and diversion from the real perversion that is homosexuality.

They show a peck on the cheek and lovey-dovey humanist affection between two people, but they do not show the physical and mental perversion that forms the basis of all their ‘morality’.

God never intended it, Hollywood won’t show the truth - you can only find that via gay porn - and liberals and Democrats only support it because it is a means to degenerate us all. Truly evil people


10 posted on 6/2/2014 11:35:44 AM by Gaffer
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Because gay porn is so realistic with dudes shoving broom handles up their bums and all

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Why don’t they just produce their own?? Oh, right...

Therein lies the problem with mating with somebody that it’s impossible to produce children with.

So they believe society should just fill in the gap (so to speak) and provide them with the children that they refuse to create themselves (with somebody who can produce them with them).


14 posted on 6/2/2014 11:41:27 AM by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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Those unadopted kids should have been born to parents that actually wanted them in the first place, daggummit :bahgawd:

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The Dementocrats are well aware that homosexuality in itself is an agenda against social realities, and against social stability. Since children do not yet have a sound grasp on what makes a society stable, they are naturally susceptible to faulty and destructive ideas; consequently, homosexuals seek to adopt all the children they can, while attempting to brainwash the children they can't adopt through the public schools.
15 posted on 6/2/2014 11:41:27 AM by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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God that tagline is just as idiotic as the post

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Lord, just send the plagues. We are begging for them.


22 posted on 6/2/2014 11:48:00 AM by ilovesarah2012
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Yet another perfect example of why we conservatives and patriots are complete idiots for not having created our own pop culture infrastructure! Why do we not have a conservative response to "American Family"? Why did we stand around and not respond to "Will and Grace"? Why do we not counter Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Green Day, Kanye West, Pink, George cLooney, Katy Perry, et al? Why do we keep making excuses?
There are talented conservatives and patriots making music, writing screenplays, trying to break into the movie biz, and so on. But we conservatives seem to think that anything artistic and creative isn't for us. "Our brains aren't wired that way", I've heard on a few occasions. Wake up, people...we gotta get "that way". Music, movies, reality TV, sports and so on are what influences Generation.com, not family, church, talk radio, or the Heritage Foundation. We have allowed the Left unchallenged access to the most power weapon ever for molding and shaping the minds of young people, and it's going to kill this Republic.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

28 posted on 6/2/2014 11:54:17 AM by wku man (Veterans, it's up to us to save the Republic...let's roll.)
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A flood of conservatives signing up for 'liberal arts' :twisted:

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My sister-in-law has a lesbian aunt. She’s about 50 and has been with the same partner for 25 years. They’ve adopted 2 children with Downs Syndrome. They’ve given those children a rich and fulfilling life. Sorry, I can’t condemn them. The vast majority of Freepers I’m sure think those women are headed for the lake of fire. Sorry, but I just can’t believe a just god would do that.


31 posted on 06/02/2014 9:56:31 AM PDT by strider44
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I don’t think your relatives are headed for Hades. How would I know that? But I also don’t think they should have been allowed to adopt children—not as a couple, certainly. I can tell horror stories of kids I have known who were deliberately deprived of a mother or a father so a gay couple could pretend to be their parents, but it’s not stories (horror or otherwise) that matter. It’s a way of being reared that Nature and Nature’s God designed for all of us, and it’s wrong to deprive children of it in the name of a social experiment.


41 posted on 06/02/2014 10:05:27 AM PDT by madprof98
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I have yet to see a kid raised by gay “parents” who isn’t a psychological ruin.


47 posted on 06/02/2014 10:10:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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I sympathize with your sil's aunt. They are, however, exceptional cases and need to be given consideration as exceptional cases.
God bless her for giving these Down's Syndrome kids a chance in life. People are not exactly lining up to adopt kids with Down's.

They are not, however, the norm and should not be legislated as the norm. Something like 80% of all heterosexual women and 70% of all heterosexual men are faithfully monogamous.

Amount homosexuals, these figures drop to around 6% for women and 3% for men. I'm glad your sil's aunt is in the 6% and has worthwhile things on her mind like giving Down's kids a real chance in life. She sounds like a giving unselfish person.

Most homosexuals priorities, however, are located well below the waist.

49 posted on 06/02/2014 10:11:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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All I know is that a gay acquaintance tells me that gay porn is about 95% child porn.


34 posted on 6/2/2014 11:59:03 AM by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Now that homosexuality has become a normal part of our society, pedophilia has to follow, and what better way to assure that than allowing homosexual couples to adopt young children.

The great American brainwashed think tolerance of evil is a virtue, and our children will pay for this foolishness.


37 posted on 6/2/2014 12:01:46 PM by pallis
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Taking bets on if he homeschooled his kids

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