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radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Yeah, this CNN story seems to confirm that and in fact, says that he has been promoted twice during his captivity. I don't know how the right is going to attack a guy that has been given two promotions while in captivity but again, I'm sure FOX and all the talking heads will explain it to us.

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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I would guess that automatic promotion for POWs is generally a good policy.

If you get caught by the enemy, even if it was your own bad judgment that led to it, and you live up to the standards we expect of you, you will be rewarded.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Mr Interweb posted:

But...taxes aren't charity cause they're voluntary.

I have to say, I really didn't think that over a decade after it aired, I'd see Jimmy Kimmell be the more successful of the two people involved on the Man Show.

The grand irony is that Carolla got lazy and comfortable while Kimmell kept hustling. Also Carolla completely ignores all of the lucky breaks he's received; he's the radio equivalent of "I was on food stamps, did anyone help me? No."

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I would guess that automatic promotion for POWs is generally a good policy.

If you get caught by the enemy, even if it was your own bad judgment that led to it, and you live up to the standards we expect of you, you will be rewarded.

Until it's ten to fifteen years later and retirement time comes then you can expect a court martial, demotion, reduction in pay and benefits, and a sluggish VA that will take care of you if you are very, very lucky.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Zeroisanumber posted:

The guy posting the Twitter feed said that Bergdahl acted like a guy who lived his life like he was the protagonist of a movie. He was always talking about walking out of Afghanistan or quitting the military to join the French Foreign Legion. One of those guys who doesn't understand consequence very well.

Would joining the French Foreign Legion be all that preferable to the US Military? What's the benefit to it?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

JediTalentAgent posted:

Would joining the French Foreign Legion be all that preferable to the US Military? What's the benefit to it?

People have some romanticized notion that the FFL is a group of adventurous rogues on a grand adventure rather than a group of bully boys who are around to defend French honor whenever the French don't feel like spilling French blood.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
The Foreign Legion is a safety valve for humanity. A lot of those people would be in prison or grave otherwise.

It is a rough place to be, I've heard, but it is also nice to know that some people can have one last chance to be proper people and start from a clean slate.

I was close to joining, once, too.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



All I can think of is Love Line episodes for fifteen years ago where Carolla explained how awful and backbreaking his pre-entertainment jobs were and how much that it sucked for him. Like when he and one other dude had to get all the furniture out of huge reception room and then wash the carpet with six inch wands on their hands and knees. He's so far down his own rear end I wonder what he would say if you played him that old stuff and offered him his old jobs at his current rich guy salary if they were so easy and for the lazy.

bigtom
May 7, 2007

Playing the solid gold hits and moving my liquid lips...

Phone posted:

The grand irony is that Carolla got lazy and comfortable while Kimmell kept hustling. Also Carolla completely ignores all of the lucky breaks he's received; he's the radio equivalent of "I was on food stamps, did anyone help me? No."

So...he's just like Rush...who was on food stamps for a period of time, eating junk food & too lazy to mow his own drat lawn (as pointed out in Al Franken's book).

Radio is not rocket science (we're the used car salesmen of entertainers), but every time I see someone doing construction work in summer heat or digging thru the trash I remind myself how worse off I could be. Corolla should be thankful for what he has and that people still listen to what he has to say, sans girls jumping on trampolines.

turnip kid
May 24, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFW3f2EE2is

turnip kid fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jun 1, 2014

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010

My ... dramatic pauses are so pregnant... because ... they, too were raped.

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

Radish posted:

All I can think of is Love Line episodes for fifteen years ago where Carolla explained how awful and backbreaking his pre-entertainment jobs were and how much that it sucked for him. Like when he and one other dude had to get all the furniture out of huge reception room and then wash the carpet with six inch wands on their hands and knees. He's so far down his own rear end I wonder what he would say if you played him that old stuff and offered him his old jobs at his current rich guy salary if they were so easy and for the lazy.

He has also talked about poo poo he stole while on those jobs, and he'd probably use that to say that all poor people are shiftless and coveting the silver. That quote is so hosed up, and makes me glad I stopped listening to him. Now, I will admit it took a lot of hosed up bullshit for me to stop listening. When both he and Dr. Drew were actively saying poor people didn't deserve healthcare about 2 years ago.. that was the last straw for me.

His quote there is literally something that could have been taken from a 19th century conservative op-ed during the labor movement nearly verbatim. Even the way he phrased it is kind of old fashioned. The irony is that he's well known to drink quite a bit, and is even shilling his own alcoholic swill now! He also smokes, but he tries to keep that a secret. He knows he'd be looked down upon for it. He's fine mentioning his love of red wine. He's scared of mentioning the tobacco he also uses to wind down after a hard day of driving around to places where he says things into microphones.

He's bought into the religion of FYGM to the hilt, and he's now being sued by his business partner after firing him for getting too uppity about doing the legwork to save his career for him.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/adam-carolla-headed-trial-podcast-700812

I knew about a lot of the stuff in that lawsuit, but I didn't realize the extent Donny and his wife sacrificed in order to literally save Carolla's career after being fired from his morning show gig.

Another funny thing about Carolla always complaining about taxes is that Carolla is not very rich in the grand scheme of American rich people. He's rich enough to feel super entitled, but still dumb enough to make the majority of his money in actual pay checks. If he were proper rich then he would be getting paid in stuff like stock, and then only taking the capital gains when he sells it. He's solipsistic to the core, and so he thinks Mitt Romney pays the same percentage he does. He just isn't successful enough to realize how much the tax code benefits the super rich.

He's stupid as gently caress, and the walking definition of FYGM petit bourgeois. He's a good little soldier telling those poors to stop idling.

ErIog fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Jun 1, 2014

Buried alive
Jun 8, 2009

So in the related links there's one about Alex Jones exposing Beck as an Obama agent. It seems to be related to the Cliven Bundy mess. Two somewhat big-time conservative shock jocks having a war with each other sounds like good material for this thread. Does anyone know more about this?

turnip kid
May 24, 2010

Regarding the counter at the bottom right.

Is the president generally supposed to demand sovereign nations turn over Americans who've broken the law? Like, should Obama do something about this kid that crossed over into Mexico with an arsenal, or is it just the right making noise? I can't imagine a circumstance where we'd be ok with a noncitizen crossing into our country with assault weapons.

Now that we have this mess with the "runaway traitor" with the Muslim-sympathizing father getting his freedom in exchange for five Guantanamo prisoners, I'm sure we are in for it

http://bit.ly/U4DM1C

turnip kid fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jun 1, 2014

ChristsDickWorship
Dec 7, 2004

Annihilate your demons



It took working at one of those live shows with Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager in 2012 to finally convince me Carolla was an irredeemable piece of poo poo. I had heard the rumors of his conservatism but hadn't listened to his podcasts, and I knew generally who Dennis Prager was but I thought he was supposed to be some kind of intelligent, compassionate conservative. I guess I was expecting to generally disagree but laugh a few times and feel like I'd enjoy having a beer with them. Instead, the entire show I just wanted to yell out the point of context they were leaving out to make fun of liberals on a whole variety of topics.

They started the show with what must have been semi-prepared material, where Prager asserts that all racial/ethnic jokes should be allowed (unless they're about lynching or the Holocaust) because people should be able to laugh at themselves and racist jokes are the funniest jokes. He supports his assertion by being Jewish and telling a priest/minister/rabbi joke where punchline is the rabbi being stingy about a haircut, he gets a solid chuckle out of the crowd. Then he asks Carolla if he has any Italian jokes to make fun of himself. Carolla says he (a "professional stand-up performer") doesn't know any jokes about Italians, but he does know one joke about Mexicans, and proceeds to drop the racist classic "Why shouldn't you run over a Mexican on a bicycle? It's probably your bike!" to an uproar of laughter from the crowd (all white, all 2000 of them paid $100+ per ticket) and Prager himself. Then he lets the crowd know he realizes how offensive that joke is by saying they shouldn't have laughed and claiming he didn't laugh the first time he heard it because he didn't get it. Nevermind that any minority can be plugged into that joke and any white person will always get it, and 100ish years ago you could have told that exact joke about Italians, in that exact theater on Broad St in Philadelphia, and gotten rich white people to laugh at it.

The next bit I recall was making fun of bumper stickers they didn't like. First on Prager's list was "coexist," which he says is a meaningless and masturbatory thing to put on your car in the USA, because we are "objectively the most religiously free country EVER." After claiming he and his wife have only seen women with that bumper sticker, he invites them to try putting that bumper sticker on a car in Saudi Arabia and driving around if they want to make a meaningful political statement (Gee Dennis, has anyone in the USA ever had anything to do with that horrible Saudi Arabian society?). In a successful attempt to be even more ignorant Carolla's first gripe was with "I rescued my dog from X shelter" bumper stickers, which Carolla translates to "I got a free dog," and that makes him really mad because when his family wanted a dog they went to the store in the mall and bought a purebred, supporting the US economy like you're supposed to. :suicide:

I have a copy of the show somewhere if anyone wants to PM me. Like I said it's a bit dated because it's from right before the election in 2012, but in this thread we're obviously masochists about listening to this nonsense.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

How does Adam Carolla make a living since Loveline and The Man Show ended? I gather he has some kind of podcast, but does he have any kind of serious gig beyond that?

I get the impression that Jimmy Kimmell was just way more ambitious to make it big in show business, and probably a lot more talented. Carolla seems like he was happy to get some minor fame and success and coast on that.

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Zwabu posted:

How does Adam Carolla make a living since Loveline and The Man Show ended? I gather he has some kind of podcast, but does he have any kind of serious gig beyond that?

I get the impression that Jimmy Kimmell was just way more ambitious to make it big in show business, and probably a lot more talented. Carolla seems like he was happy to get some minor fame and success and coast on that.

He left the loveline radio show in late 2005 and since then he had a crappy morning radio show for 2 years and a podcast network where he owns the studio and people do the work for him. He also 'wrote' several books and markets an alcoholic beverage.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
IIRC, Corolla was signed to a big contract for a morning national radio show to fill the gap when Howard Stern went satellite exclusive. His show flopped hard and was cancelled, but it was guaranteed money so he got paid $X million for multiple years to sit on his rear end. There was a non-compete attached, so he started his free podcast and began building his podcast empire. I remember reading stories about him buying multiple Lambourghinis and poo poo like that. That's where his big money came from, and now he has his podcasts, books, and touring stand-up to pay the bills.

Corolla's FYGMism is basically "I was a broke-rear end poor person for most of my life, I managed to become a zillionaire through hard work and talent, why can't other poor people just do the same as me?" in his routine. I made it out of poverty / therefore anyone can make it out if they apply themselves / therefore poor people are just lazy or stupid and why should I have to subsidize them? Plus, he has almost an infinite supply of stories about the drug-addled screwups he worked with when he was hanging drywall for $50/day, as if they encompassed the entirety of the working poor or their dysfunctions weren't the result of their poverty and not the cause.

It's a good way to get a lucrative audience of middle and upper-middle class listeners, forever reinforcing their just-world view of society.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

FMguru posted:

IIRC, Corolla was signed to a big contract for a morning national radio show to fill the gap when Howard Stern went satellite exclusive. His show flopped hard and was cancelled, but it was guaranteed money so he got paid $X million for multiple years to sit on his rear end.

Oooh yeah I remember listening to a little of that radio show and it was awful. Does anyone even make significant money off podcasts though? If he got a lot of money for the radio show then he could just be coasting on interest/investment value from that for the rest of his life.

Aside from his odious political views, I just didn't get the impression Corolla was that talented. For instance, Rush Limbaugh's political views are the absolute worst, but if you ever listen to his show he clearly has a certain talent for what he does that got him to his position, although that talent was a LOT more evident if you listened to him 15 or 20 years ago. Just like if you listen to Howard interview a guest he really clicks with, like the recent Paul McCartney interview, it's radio gold and Howard's talent aside from Sybian/anal ring toss porn star interviews is apparent.

I don't get any sense of that kind of mojo from Corolla.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
Carolla's new show is some reality tv thing where he busts shady home remodeling contractors http://www.spike.com/shows/catch-a-contractor

emdash fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jun 1, 2014

pacerhimself
Dec 30, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
He's kind of a weird case because he never really had to pay his dues in broadcasting. He got plopped into Loveline because of some radio bits. With Loveline, he had incredible chemistry with Dr Drew and his 'no nonsense' personality worked really well with stupid teenagers calling up with stupid problems. He carried some of the hosting duties but he never had to develop much beyond that. He is his own echo chamber and he surrounds himself with yes men and has since spiraled into being a tremendous rear end in a top hat.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.

wixard posted:

I knew generally who Dennis Prager was but I thought he was supposed to be some kind of intelligent, compassionate conservative.

Why wives should have sex with their husbands even with they don't want to: part I, by Dennis Prager

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

TheQat posted:

Carolla's new show is some reality tv thing where he busts shady home remodeling contractors http://www.spike.com/shows/catch-a-contractor

Saw it a couple weeks ago when flipping through the channels and it was enjoyable enough, but pretty derivative and self aggrandizing.

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003


As he's gotten older it seems like his face has physically begun morphing to look like Sean Hannity in the same way the pigs in Animal Farm started looking like people. Maybe there's just something about construction workers who hit it big in showbiz that causes them to look like that.

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

Zwabu posted:

I don't get any sense of that kind of mojo from Corolla.

Corolla's background was in improv, which worked well with Loveline and having to make jokes about what ever came up with the callers. And if he tossed out a dud, there would be another call in 5 minutes. Also, Dr. Drew was the straightest of straight men. So during lulls in the show he could easily play off that contrast.

I remember listening to his solo show he did later, and it was terrible. Interviews and skits were not his specialty and it showed. It makes his current FYGM attitude even more ironic. Aside from all the lucky breaks, the comedy he used to make a name for himself only worked by interacting with others.

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

lil mortimer posted:

Regarding the counter at the bottom right.

Is the president generally supposed to demand sovereign nations turn over Americans who've broken the law? Like, should Obama do something about this kid that crossed over into Mexico with an arsenal, or is it just the right making noise? I can't imagine a circumstance where we'd be ok with a noncitizen crossing into our country with assault weapons.

Now that we have this mess with the "runaway traitor" with the Muslim-sympathizing father getting his freedom in exchange for five Guantanamo prisoners, I'm sure we are in for it

http://bit.ly/U4DM1C

I'm in San Diego and the local teabaggers were throwing an absolute shitfit over this last week. As far as I can tell, it's a matter of "our military are all perfect little angels and couldn't have done anything wrong, also gently caress Mexicans."

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

bigtom posted:

So...he's just like Rush...who was on food stamps for a period of time, eating junk food & too lazy to mow his own drat lawn (as pointed out in Al Franken's book).


Rush was on food stamps? I mean, it's not totally shocking since the louder someone bitches about people on welfare, there's a good chance they themselves have been on welfare.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Radish posted:

Glenn Beck is a big fan of Stardust the Super Wizard. Fanboy of the USA, doles out ironic and horrible justice to villains many of which are ill defined secret conspiracies, ultrapowerful and doesn't really have to try to win other than explain what he's doing, is super white, and he flies like he has a four foot stick up his rear end.

Don't forget: A wife/child beater, deadbeat dad, sadistic rear end in a top hat, and constantly drunk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DwVyCLW1k


For anyone interesting in finding out more about Fletcher Hanks, check out this multi-part lecutre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXQO4DqFL14

Stardust is like a fever dream version of being an over-privileged and abusive white man in America.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jun 1, 2014

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Mr Interweb posted:

Rush was on food stamps? I mean, it's not totally shocking since the louder someone bitches about people on welfare, there's a good chance they themselves have been on welfare.

I remember it being that he collected unemployment insurance multiple times but it's been a while since I read Franken's book.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

I don't get all the "Carolla used to be funny back in the day" nonsense people keep throwing out. I listened to Loveline all the time when it was in its prime and he was at best an obnoxious jackass who said something sorta chuckleworthy on rare occasions. It was especially bad when Dr. Drew would be saying something insightful and he would jump in with some sophomoric one-liner that would have been hilarious when I was 12. The show would have honestly been better if it was just solo Dr. Drew. Speaking of being 12, I enjoyed Carolla on The Man Show around that age, but I'm sure if I went back and watched it as an adult I would just feel a deep sense of shame.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Yeah, I haven't seen the Man Show since I was young, and I bet it was actually stupid and is better called, "The Teenaged Boy Show".

Lycus fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jun 2, 2014

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
I believe Carolla makes his money off those live shows. He does a ton of them, and tickets are pricey. I can't figure how that translates into a huge garage full of supercars though.

His movie was pretty good, for an independent production. I don't know why he didn't pursue movie writing rather than becoming a low-rent, racist version of Dennis Miller.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

PostNouveau posted:

I believe Carolla makes his money off those live shows. He does a ton of them, and tickets are pricey. I can't figure how that translates into a huge garage full of supercars though.
Mentioned above - he got a multi-million dollar contract for a national morning radio show in the hopes that he would become the next Howard Stern. It cratered in like six months, but he still got paid.

I'm pretty sure that's where the fleet of Lambos came from.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011
There is like nothing more boring than getting rich and famous and buying a fleet of cars. Nobody spends a dollar any more loving stupidly than a newly rich dude. There's a reason transfers from the rich to the poor boost the economy.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

PostNouveau posted:

His movie was pretty good, for an independent production. I don't know why he didn't pursue movie writing rather than becoming a low-rent, racist version of Dennis Miller.

Probably because he co-wrote that movie the same way Ben Affleck co-wrote Good Will Hunting.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

agarjogger posted:

There is like nothing more boring than getting rich and famous and buying a fleet of cars. Nobody spends a dollar any more loving stupidly than a newly rich dude. There's a reason transfers from the rich to the poor boost the economy.

I was going to complain about how unimaginative that is, but I actually took a look and I have no complaints about his taste



:quagmire:

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

SedanChair posted:

I was going to complain about how unimaginative that is, but I actually took a look and I have no complaints about his taste



:quagmire:

Honestly that would probably be the same thing I would do. (with different cars, but along the same lines)

That and buy a race team honestly.

Also he's doing a documentary on Paul Newman.

Paul Newman was a badass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H37EaYY80zI

e: I think Carolla would be better suited in focusing cars and maybe fielding a race team like the aforementioned Paul Newman, but that's just me.

FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jun 2, 2014

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


SedanChair posted:

I was going to complain about how unimaginative that is, but I actually took a look and I have no complaints about his taste



:quagmire:

He ain't got poo poo on Leno though. That is a man with an amazing collection of cars.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Well I guess that's the point, Carolla has limited funds so he has to pick ones he really likes. Leno's poo poo is ridiculous Sultan of Brunei level, he has too many cars. His collection is almost as ridiculous as his face and popularity.

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nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

SedanChair posted:

I was going to complain about how unimaginative that is, but I actually took a look and I have no complaints about his taste



:quagmire:

Yeah, he has great taste in cars and is terrible in every other way.

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