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flashy_mcflash posted:Does she even still have the Anti-Diva gimmick anymore? Because if so, she's not doing well at carrying it off despite showing that she can do just that when she debuted on NXT. She still has the leather jacket, heavy rock theme, and the 'screaming at nothing in particular' taunt, but her mannerisms outside of that read as an 'aw shucks' babyface that's more suited to Emma or Bayley. It's funny how people that were adored in NXT have come up to the main roster and done nothing of note, or look like goofs. That has to bug Triple H just a little bit. Also: Jason Funk posted:Best part of Payback Okay I noticed that too. Glad to know I'm not crazy.
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Paige's "anti-diva" gimmick doesn't work so well on the main roster because she's actually the most barbie-esque of any the actual top-card divas. Saying that the other divas are "too tan" is...kinda uncomfortable in a feud with Alicia Fox or Tamina.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Paige's "anti-diva" gimmick doesn't work so well on the main roster because she's actually the most barbie-esque of any the actual top-card divas. Saying that the other divas are "too tan" is...kinda uncomfortable in a feud with Alicia Fox or Tamina. Barbie must have had one hell of a redesign since I was a kid
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triplexpac posted:Barbie must have had one hell of a redesign since I was a kid Paige is the most conventionally attractive of the top-card divas, is what I was getting at. You can't do a "I'm not some HOT BLONDE like THEM" gimmick when you're the only pretty white girl in any of your feuds.
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triplexpac posted:It's like they expect that the whole WWE audience is familiar with NXT and they will immediately react like the Full Sail crowd. She still looks the part of the Anti-Diva, but has thrown away all the mannerisms. It's weird and is a neutering of the gimmick in a way that no one else seems to have experienced. It'd be like calling up Emma without the dancing, or Adam Rose without...uh, the dancing. Mechafunkzilla posted:Paige is the most conventionally attractive of the top-card divas, is what I was getting at. You can't do a "I'm not some HOT BLONDE like THEM" gimmick when you're the only pretty white girl in any of your feuds. Summer Rae is probably the most Barbie-like, and even if being blonde isn't a requirement, the Bellas still exist.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Summer Rae is probably the most Barbie-like, and even if being blonde isn't a requirement, the Bellas still exist. Neither of them are at the top of the card.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Neither of them are at the top of the card. What does top of the card even mean in the Divas division? If you mean she's the most Barbie-like diva to currently hold the Divas title, well, you've got me there. Is blonde, blue-eyed Nattie a 'top card diva'?
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The top of the divas card is whoever has the title currently and whoever her challenger is this month.
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flashy_mcflash posted:What does top of the card even mean in the Divas division? If you mean she's the most Barbie-like diva to currently hold the Divas title, well, you've got me there. Feuding for the title. Which recently has meant Tamina, Alicia Fox, and AJ Lee.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Feuding for the title. Which recently has meant Tamina, Alicia Fox, and AJ Lee. I don't know what to tell you if you honestly think Paige is more 'conventionally attractive' than Alicia.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I don't know what to tell you if you honestly think Paige is more 'conventionally attractive' than Alicia. I know what to tell him. It's that his genitals are racist.
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I think I'm officially over Daniel Bryan. Who's next in line to smarkgasm over? Cesaro? Sami Zayn (or probably just "Zayn" when he gets called up)?
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armoredgorilla posted:Stolen from the gifs thread: All it needs is a word bubble of Bray going "Barf!".
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projecthalaxy posted:I know what to tell him. It's that his genitals are racist. It's almost like different people like different things, whoa Time to make it into a social justice issue!!!!!
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Jason Funk posted:I think I'm officially over Daniel Bryan. Who's next in line to smarkgasm over? Cesaro? Sami Zayn (or probably just "Zayn" when he gets called up)? I'm not over him, but he's so corny. Maybe I can just ignore him any time he isn't wrestling.
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Yuriy posted:It's almost like different people like different things, whoa I thought Trish Stratus was more attractive as a blond.
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Yuriy posted:It's almost like different people like different things, whoa "Conventionally atractive", in the US, means young, white, thin, and blonde. I'm certainly not saying that's the way it should be, but Paige's NXT persona was basically predicated on her being an alternative to the likes of Kelly Kelly, Stacy Keibler, and Michelle McCool, because she's a pale brunette without a bubbly personality. But the mid-2000's crew isn't around any more and Paige's gimmick completely falls apart when she's going up against actual minorities with mean streaks like Tamina and Alicia Fox. Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Paige covering up her cool top with her cut up rubbish t-shirt was the jumping the shark moment for me. I mean, the divas division isn't going to turn around any time soon but we can confirm the second coming is once again not here. She was already an AJ transplant, complete with guaranteed submission finisher, and now she's dressing like her to flog merch.
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Every Diva on the entire roster is conventionally attractive you oddballs. I mean I get the point that Paige is the most "unusual" out of them but if you saw her walking down the street, even if you didn't think  (which you might not, it's fine for people to have a type) you'd probably still think "that's a pretty girl."Anyway. to get off this weird tangent, rewatching the Shield/Evolution match, the not going for pins thing makes a LITTLE more sense when you remember it wasn't falls count anywhere. They still shoulda done more near-falls, though.
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Got to watch the PPV with my dad who was in town for the weekend. Interesting to see an outside perspective. He loved the Bray/Cena match as well as the usual suspects. I loved the booking for the main event. There were a lot of little things that were really cool in it. Like how Roman helped Seth get his pin on Batista and how Seth helped Roman get his pin on HHH. I made the joke at the beginning of the match that Seth just can't help but kick HHH in the face, and by the end of it my dad was agreeing. I also liked how at the end of the match they helped each other back up. Seth reaching over to Roman and grabbing each other's hands as they pull up, then scraping Ambrose off the mat. Gave a Band of Brother's kind of feel. Then at the conference, Dean was so good at selling the beating and had that funny line to Roman, "That's awesome man. Too bad there's already a t-shirt with it." PS: After watching him once, Dad is now a bo-liever. Shard fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jun 2, 2014 |
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Spikeguy posted:Got to watch the PPV with my dad who was in town for the weekend. Interesting to see an outside perspective. He loved the Bray/Cena match as well as the usual suspects. Basically anything that HHH has his hands on directly turns to wrestling gold.
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keithy george posted:Paige covering up her cool top with her cut up rubbish t-shirt was the jumping the shark moment for me. Of all the things, you pick that?
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Even with the WWE spoiling me on every single result, I still thought that was a hell of a good show.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Every Diva on the entire roster is conventionally attractive you oddballs. Tamina Snuka
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Basically anything that HHH has his hands on directly turns to wrestling gold. Triple H has made everything so bad for so long that when he finally decides to turn it on, he gets himself over.
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I don't know how I feel about Bray/Cena and Shield/Evolution. They both had awesome moments (stair chucking, the Uso table spots, the barricade destruction, Reigns' caning, Ambrose having the best selling in the world, Rollins' tron dive, the rapid fire eliminations), but on the other hand they didn't really seem well connected. I hesitate to call feud enders like those spotfests, but that's how I'm feeling right now. Everyone of the 12 dudes involved has had better matches this year.
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armoredgorilla posted:Stolen from the gifs thread: TheNetworkOnceAgainPaysForItself.gif
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Astro7x posted:Of all the things, you pick that? Of course he does, PSP's irrational knee jerk hatred for talent wearing t-shirts is limitless. Unless they are stone cold or Foley because if you are one of wrestling's diefied then your shilling is exempt from criticism but if you aren't then it literally ruins you.
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armoredgorilla posted:Stolen from the gifs thread: That's gonna be a high seed next year.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Ut66vLqd4 "I want Batista!"
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Sanguinia posted:Of course he does, PSP's irrational knee jerk hatred for talent wearing t-shirts is limitless. Unless they are stone cold or Foley because if you are one of wrestling's diefied then your shilling is exempt from criticism but if you aren't then it literally ruins you. You forgot punk
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Sanguinia posted:Of course he does, PSP's irrational knee jerk hatred for talent wearing t-shirts is limitless. Unless they are stone cold or Foley because if you are one of wrestling's diefied then your shilling is exempt from criticism but if you aren't then it literally ruins you. Or, you know, you could have read the entire paragraph and see he was talking about the tshirt as a symptom of a larger problem but hey who needs to do that when you can just clip things like we're all Nancy Grace.
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projecthalaxy posted:Or, you know, you could have read the entire paragraph and see he was talking about the tshirt as a symptom of a larger problem but hey who needs to do that when you can just clip things like we're all Nancy Grace. Perhaps one should think twice before describing something as jumping the shark if they don't want only that one point discussed. Its a charged term among fandom and its always going to make the rest of your points muted by comparison.
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I think in PSP we should use the term "f-5ing the shark"
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sportsgenius86 posted:Tamina Snuka She's hot. Unless you bring in Chyna or Nicole Bass they generally only hire really attractive women.
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Just assume everyone has the indie mentality of "if I don't sell shirts I don't get paid." Wear your merch you get money
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I hope Cody cuts an "I suck" promo tonight and Bo Dallas comes out to encourage him
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oldpainless posted:I think in PSP we should use the term "f-5ing the shark" No because that was awesome.
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