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Medullah posted:Well I can't chip in on this argument as I have Bubba'fatt, Melty'face, Blukakke and Captain Antenille. Don't you ever apologize for Captain Antenille
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Alter Ego posted:The smartest group of players, in my experience, are Operative Agents. I've never grouped with a bad one. I guess it's because to play the class well it requires some thought? Thats because your option when it comes to advance class is: "Do you want a bad rear end sniper rifle? Yes/no?"
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Jun 3, 2014 20:44
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hobbesmaster posted:Thats because your option when it comes to advance class is: "Do you want a bad rear end sniper rifle? Yes/no?" "No, because I want to heal people with tiny robots and stab a bitch in the back." My first toon, long since deleted, was an operative. I deleted him because I had no idea what the gently caress I was doing with him. Now, I have an operative again, and everything is okay!
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Jun 3, 2014 20:54
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Yeah, I've noticed that in group finder runs where the healer's an operative, we tend to stay much further from dying than with any other type of healer. I've never healed with an op though, so I dunno why that is. I'd have guessed sorcerer would have been the easiest to do. I have definitely run with some dumb snipers though, which is weird, because the rotation/general strategy is so simple I feel like it almost takes more skill to screw it up.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:01
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wtftastic posted:"No, because I want to heal people with tiny robots and stab a bitch in the back." Well, with Operatives, you always have to be circling around your targets since you do most of your damage from backstabs. They're the Rogues of SWTOR. That means you usually have to make your companion tank for you when soloing stuff, and it's why you are dependent on other, heftier players to hold enemies' attention in group content. Most of your moves are either stuns, CCs, or DoTs. I don't think they're hard to play (an Operative was my first 55), but they do require thought to play reasonably well. Jedi and Sith? I WANNA HIT THINGS WITH GLOWSTICKS 
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Jun 3, 2014 21:05
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wtftastic posted:Maradurrs and Sentinulls are bad and I think you tend to see them more at the 20s to 30s range. Occasionally you'll see then in KDY (I figure more of them are there now because SWEET SWEET EXPs), but I think its because people have figured out judicious use of ignore is helpful to them. Since my most recent imperial toons are leveling via pvp, I see less of it than I use to, but boy, when you get bad players in this game, they are aggressively bad. They are bad at level 55 too. This was not an accident. Go ahead...figure out why this one was so awful. 
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Jun 3, 2014 21:07
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Alter Ego posted:Well, with Operatives, you always have to be circling around your targets since you do most of your damage from backstabs. They're the Rogues of SWTOR. That means you usually have to make your companion tank for you when soloing stuff, and it's why you are dependent on other, heftier players to hold enemies' attention in group content. Most of your moves are either stuns, CCs, or DoTs. I don't think they're hard to play (an Operative was my first 55), but they do require thought to play reasonably well. I once played with a shadow tank (or sin, i don't remember) who kept spinning the enemy around in circles. One of the guys asked him to stop doing that and he said "no I'm supposed to backstab"
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Jun 3, 2014 21:10
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See, I have had sort of the opposite experience with republic vs. Empire. My shadow has managed to do every heroic with a full group, because people seem more interested in teaming up republic side, while my sniper had to solo basically all of then. I also have only ever had anyone die in KDY imp side, and that was a group with three maraudurrs that wiped four times (note, I have done probably seventy runs of KDY and that was the only one I had issues with) Republic is notably more... Apathetic, in non 55 PvP. While imp side if we start using someone might start shouting orders and telling people to stop sucking, republic side will just give up a lot and be like 'well, earn some defense medals'. Which is fine with me, since if I am doing PVP it is to get my daily/weekly done before getting back to the fun part of the game, but for people who get mad about losing PvP it is probably a negative
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Jun 3, 2014 21:14
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Ainsley McTree posted:I once played with a shadow tank (or sin, i don't remember) who kept spinning the enemy around in circles. One of the guys asked him to stop doing that and he said "no I'm supposed to backstab" "Why are you all mad at me" Medullah posted:They are bad at level 55 too. This was not an accident. Go ahead...figure out why this one was so awful. does he not have a stance on?
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Jun 3, 2014 21:14
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Medullah posted:Captain Antenille. hahahaha
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Jun 3, 2014 21:16
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Bilirubin posted:hahahaha Can someone explain the reference to me? I don't get it. 
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Jun 3, 2014 21:17
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wtftastic posted:
NOPE. I told him *twice* that he didn't have his stance on, so he put it on. Then immediately after the fight, took it off. After that I stopped reminding him.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:17
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wtftastic posted:Can someone explain the reference to me? I don't get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBYV_7a0FQs
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Jun 3, 2014 21:18
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I don't know what kind of weird observational deficiencies you guys have, but dumb shits are everywhere all the time.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:18
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wtftastic posted:Can someone explain the reference to me? I don't get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSwXPIbOodQ e. that is a good one also Medullah
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Jun 3, 2014 21:20
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Bilirubin posted:
"good" isn't quite the right word for it. 
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Jun 3, 2014 21:21
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Medullah posted:"good" isn't quite the right word for it. The Muppets version of Muskrat Love is beyond reproach e. wait no I was misremembering this as being Muskrat Love. Carry on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DrQ98t56I
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Jun 3, 2014 21:23
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Medullah posted:NOPE. w-why? Why turn it off and on?!
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Jun 3, 2014 21:28
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Maybe he was just trolling, like that one guy that leveled a Sith Warrior the level cap without ever picking an advanced class.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:30
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Alter Ego posted:Everything sucks more Republic side--PvP, KDY (and other Flashpoints), and endgame content. Well poo poo. I guess I will have to wait till a level 55 goon is on and feels like running Oricon dailies. Tried asking again today and got bupkiss. I think I'm being ignored. Nipponophile posted:If you want to live on some kind of bullshit planet like Coruscant, I guess this is what it'll look like. gently caress yes but only if I can paint that bitch pink to match my Space Barbie.
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Jun 3, 2014 22:55
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JediBlutarsky posted:Well poo poo. I guess I will have to wait till a level 55 goon is on and feels like running Oricon dailies. Tried asking again today and got bupkiss. I think I'm being ignored. If you're on JC I can pop on and run them with you in about 45 minutes if you can't find someone.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:07
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Medullah posted:If you're on JC I can pop on and run them with you in about 45 minutes if you can't find someone. Yep, I'm on JC. My Imp main is Turkish and my Smuggler is Chionna.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:28
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Stuck working late tonight. Start without me and I'll try to get out ASAP.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:06
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You are ruining Christmas.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:19
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Nipponophile posted:You are ruining Christmas. You're not going to like me on Thursday. Going to a comedy show and won't be home till super duper late.
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Jun 4, 2014 00:58
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Thanks to Medullah and friend I have made it through the Republic Oricon storyline. Lets do some Repub progression bitches! 
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Jun 4, 2014 01:25
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JediBlutarsky posted:Thanks to Medullah and friend I have made it through the Republic Oricon storyline. Lets do some Repub progression bitches! I think doing a 55HM flashpoint counts as Repub-side progression.
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Jun 4, 2014 01:35
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Medullah posted:NOPE. wtftastic posted:w-why? Why turn it off and on?! I've knocked myself out of a stance by accidentally right-clicking on the buff bar, but twice in a row... I had a Marauder come into a FP without a stance and just flat-out ignore all requests to turn one on, eventually we gave up. I'm always amazed at how many people just don't pay attention to their group chat at all. It's especially bad in boss fights; I'm so paranoid about missing something important (such as "hey is there anything i need to know about this boss alright cool *Force Leap*) that I have a group-only chat tab that I watch like a hawk, but I've learned that asking someone to stop attacking something they aren't supposed to be attacking is a total loving waste of time and I should just try to heal through it, because they're not gonna read anything anyone says until one of them is dead (and that's if I'm lucky). A few nights ago my tank started jumping up and down in front of a DPS Merc while spamming "STOP" in chat, trying to get him to stop attacking the wrong console in the Vigilant fight, to no avail.
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Jun 4, 2014 02:03
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Oooh i logged in last night to find i had invite abilities on both my newbie imp sniper and recently-transferred republic guardian. Thanks whomever you are! I'm in Singapore which is GMT+8 and i'm usually online in the asiapac evenings which would make it early in the morning American times. I've noticed sometimes when i log on that i'm the only one online and people will slowly start to trickle in later in my night. If there's anyone from this timezone thinking about joining, go for it and we'll get a little asiapac club going on.
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Jun 4, 2014 03:51
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Eskie posted:Stuck working late tonight. Start without me and I'll try to get out ASAP. You'd better show up Thursday. I had to tank tonight and ....not pretty.
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Jun 4, 2014 03:55
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Making it through the first boss when you've never tanked the raid on HM or SM is pretty good.
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Jun 4, 2014 04:02
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raffie posted:If there's anyone from this timezone thinking about joining, go for it and we'll get a little asiapac club going on. That'd be pretty neat. I know we've got at least a couple of Ausgoons in TNG. I hope y'all can get together.
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Jun 4, 2014 04:15
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Alter Ego posted:Well, with Operatives, you always have to be circling around your targets since you do most of your damage from backstabs. Jarring Strikes/KO was changed to allow Backstab/Backblast to be used from any direction in 2.7. Concealment does excellent DPS in PvE but you're going to work for it meanwhile they're a free kill in PvP. I kind of pity Concealment/Scrappers when they open up on my Sawbones like little tenacious puppy dogs.
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raffie posted:Oooh i logged in last night to find i had invite abilities on both my newbie imp sniper and recently-transferred republic guardian. Thanks whomever you are! PanO representation!?! Sounds good to me, I might bother to log on again and get my PT up to 55
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Black Griffon posted:I play a knight on the Republic side, because I honestly care more about story missions and space barbie than PvP, but I feel like I'm missing out on content when I play alone, so are there any European guilds that aren't loving horrid? I guess suggestions for both sides are welcome, because I'm probably rolling an empire class of some kind once I hit 55 with this one, and if I need to change servers, I want to know which one I should stick with. If you are playing on Red Eclipse, Devnor for empire and NorDev for republic are great guilds. I am a member in both, and had a goon join. He claims it felt just like a proper goon clan, whatever that means. Great people, regular raids, usually someone in chat even in the off hours, lot's of activity during the evening. Raids are super relaxed, noone really yells if you mess up. At least they don't mean it, and they seem to make sure you are in on the jokes before they start. I don't have invite powers, but just search for devnor/nordev and ask someone to throw you an invite. I'm Astamem/Zyme in Devnor, and Incrediblely in Nordev.
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Excellent, "like a proper goon clan" should probably feel safe and homely. Just gotta get that transfer in order, and thank god I don't have alts.
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Speaking of people in chat, even in the off hours.. Does nobody use the TNG TeamSpeak server outside of Oedzi-led raids? As much as I enjoy listening to Oedzi leading other goons in raid shenanigans, it gets awfully lonely sitting in TS all by myself when the raid ends, or anytime outside of raiding hours really... tl;dr Won't people join me on Teamspeak so I can pretend I'm in a real guild, and not playing an MMO in single-player mode.. 
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Jun 4, 2014 10:50
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We all usually only join TS for group stuff. So say when running FPs or PVPing with guildies.
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OzCavalier posted:Speaking of people in chat, even in the off hours.. Does nobody use the TNG TeamSpeak server outside of Oedzi-led raids? I think most of us use TS when we're doing something together (raid, flashpoint, PvP), but that's it. I know personally if I'm playing on a non-event night, I'm usually multi tasking - watching a movie or getting caught up on my TV shows, so having TS on makes that tougher.
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OzCavalier posted:Speaking of people in chat, even in the off hours.. Does nobody use the TNG TeamSpeak server outside of Oedzi-led raids? I'll usually hang out in there when I'm playing regardless of raid stuff. Also it's Wednesday and I would like to see if we can get the alt raid group going. We'll run whatever we have people and the gear for.
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