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hot sauce posted:Found something for bullshit hipster bike videos... It's far easier to dismiss someone's creative output than to make something oneself, isn't it? I'm not necessarily saying it's not exactly what it seems to be, but it's not worth dismissing as something awful.
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ShaneB posted:It's far easier to dismiss someone's creative output than to make something oneself, isn't it? I don't see how talking about straight razors and craft breweries like Wes Anderson is creative??
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Jun 4, 2014 21:38
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hot sauce posted:I don't see how talking about straight razors and craft breweries like Wes Anderson is creative?? Well to start you have to be open to the idea that the motorcycle was created as a result of the surrounding backstory, which he was talking about. Not really defending it cause I don't give a poo poo about any of this, but JUSS SAYIN'
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Jun 4, 2014 21:40
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hot sauce posted:I don't see how talking about straight razors and craft breweries like Wes Anderson is creative?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0DsvpE9aOk&t=186s jesus christ
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Jun 4, 2014 21:43
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hot sauce posted:I don't see how talking about straight razors and craft breweries like Wes Anderson is creative?? Because it's a visually interesting (albeit derivative in some ways yes) piece that this guy storyboarded, wrote, directed, whatever, and put out to the world. It's a piece of creative output that goobs on the internet can watch and say "pfffff" I mean technically this is barely about motorcycles. It's a story that includes a motorcycle as a prop.
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Razzled posted:Well to start you have to be open to the idea that the motorcycle was created as a result of the surrounding backstory, which he was talking about. The motorcycle would be sitting in a garage rotting away if he didn't get the idea to make this corny rear end video ShaneB posted:I mean technically this is barely about motorcycles. It's a story that includes a motorcycle as a prop. Most of the videos on HBV just use the motorcycle as a prop too, they just claim to be riders hot sauce fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 21:44
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ShaneB posted:Because it's a visually interesting (albeit derivative in some ways yes) piece that this guy storyboarded, wrote, directed, whatever, and put out to the world. It's a piece of creative output that goobs on the internet can watch and say "pfffff" That's the problem right loving there.
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Jun 4, 2014 21:48
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If you want a connection to the past, maybe go talk to some people who actually lived in the past, rather than pontificating about how honest a straight razor is. unfortunately, you might learn that there were a lot of lovely things about the past that don't match up with your idealized hipster lifestyle, sorry if endemic racism, sexism, and xenophobia gets you down. It's ok though, you're a white hipster with a sick moustache and you can just ignore it.
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Jun 4, 2014 21:50
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hot sauce posted:Found something for bullshit hipster bike videos... "It's ok though", I told her. "I'd be riding with a helmet" Cut to him riding without a helmet
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Jun 4, 2014 22:05
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I just didn't like how it ended. The guy spends a good deal of time going on about how his grandfather's lives were "real" and his wasn't. He shows a number of examples about how both threw themselves wholeheartedly into both work and play, how they both were involved in activities that their families likely thought as a bit on the dangerous side, but that they opened the world for them. Then he mentions how he wanted to become like them, so he gets an old motorcycle, only for his Mom to pretty quickly bribe out from under him with money because she thought it was unsafe. For some reason, this is equated with "giving to others" like his grandfathers. Except they seemed pretty happy to continue living life on their terms AND taking care of their families, not just going "whelp, can't be helped" and giving up over $1850.
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Deeters posted:"It's ok though", I told her. "I'd be riding with a helmet" This. Though I must agree with the guy--sometimes I feel like an entitled, privileged little poo poo too. I don't know as handlebar mustaches and craft beer are the answers, though I do like his commentary on living a life giving to others. 
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Jun 4, 2014 22:21
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No one needs commentary on giving to others, they need people to actually do it.
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Z3n posted:If you want a connection to the past, maybe go talk to some people who actually lived in the past, rather than pontificating about how honest a straight razor is. Don't forget that all vehicles were actually loving terrible. SimplyCosmic posted:I just didn't like how it ended. The guy spends a good deal of time going on about how his grandfather's lives were "real" and his wasn't. He shows a number of examples about how both threw themselves wholeheartedly into both work and play, how they both were involved in activities that their families likely thought as a bit on the dangerous side, but that they opened the world for them. Because he's an entitled fuckwit who has never seen a view that didn't include his own rectum. Z3n posted:No one needs commentary on giving to others, they need people to actually do it. This.
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Why does he only have one glove on, is that some hipster thing? Not like that gardening glove is going to do anything anyway, but there's clearly some calculated decision going on there and I want to know the logic behind "I need a glove that won't protect me, but ONLY ON THE CLUTCH HAND"
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Jun 5, 2014 01:22
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Edit: Above poster beat me to it
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Oglogoth posted:Is wearing only one glove that isn't a riding glove some sort of Hipster thing? 
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quote:Nostalgie de la boue is a nineteenth-century French term that means, literally, “nostalgia for the mud.” Nostalgie de la boue tends to be a favorite motif whenever a great many new faces and a lot of new money enter Society. New arrivals have always had two ways of certifying their superiority over the hated “middle class.” They can take on the trappings of aristocracy, such as grand architecture, servants, parterre boxes, and high protocol; and they can indulge in the gauche thrill of taking on certain styles of the lower orders. The two are by no means mutually exclusive; in fact, they are always used in combination. http://nymag.com/news/features/46170/index6.html Combine nostalgie de la boue with old-fashioned Luddism and you can explain essentially anything from the hipster ethos
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I don't think it's for protection, more this kinda thing. E: not needed on the right hand, because you don't want to accidentally grip the Layer Dan lever.
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God I hate ~~AUTHENTICITY~~. That's what pisses me off about the hipster bullshit. Have doing whatever you want, but don't make some dumb claim that the way you do something is somehow more authentic and therefore superior to how anybody else does it. I shave with a safety razor like my dad did, not because it's more authentic but because mach 3s or whatever irritate the hell out of my face. I don't ride a motorcycle because it's a more "real" way of living but because it's simply fun as poo poo. gently caress anybody who defends lovely rear end videos like that. It's just bullshit revisionist pandering to nostalgic yearnings for the halcyon days of yore. E: No no guys, the glove is for when he's dragging his hand on the ground while doing a massive wheelie! Koruthaiolos fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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ShaneB posted:Because it's a visually interesting (albeit derivative in some ways yes) piece that this guy storyboarded, wrote, directed, whatever, and put out to the world. It's a piece of creative output that goobs on the internet can watch and say "pfffff" I find the video's content itself derivative and insufferable - and I'm *at* art school, I should be this guy's core demographic - but to be fair to the guy, this is an entry for a filmmaking competition. I'm guessing artfully framed and edited shots of his hipster moustache, preferred brand / receptacle of coffee, and family history will go down better with the judges than, say, something like this, which I think we can all agree is a better video about motorcycles. A video that's uncompromisingly true to any niche interest and requires a deep knowledge of that interest to extract enjoyment from it is going to struggle pretty hard to attract attention outside its particular community. "My maintenance routine on a [insert CA approved bike here]" isn't going to win the dude 20 grand worth of film gear. I have no doubt he's an entitled tool IRL - god knows most of my school cohort is (myself included) - but having a go at the video for being a cliche is like tearing apart someone's job application or resume for lacking personality. He's pitching to a particular audience - a panel of commercial film judges that probably don't give a poo poo about motorcycles. Making middle of the road "inspirational" bullshit is a legitimate tactic to win the competition. Rant over. Here's a picture of the world's life-savingest pipe. 
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Snowdens Secret posted:http://nymag.com/news/features/46170/index6.html This is amazing, I had no idea this was a thing, You have changed my world yet again, Snowden.
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ShaneB posted:It's far easier to dismiss someone's creative output than to make something oneself, isn't it? Oh yeah totally. ShaneB posted:I'm not necessarily saying it's not exactly what it seems to be, but it's not worth dismissing as something awful. But yes it is. Technically good but artistically poo poo is better than technically poo poo and artistically poo poo. If something was made just for showing proficiency of method, say this video was an exam after his onboard-bike-video class, top marks. But if you make something artful, you set yourself up for art critique. I'm sure it's been hated by artists for thirty thousand years, but it does exist and it is worthwhile because the existence of poo poo art which its observers hate means there is great art which its observers love. This particular piece waxes on about authenticity, nicely painting the artist himself as a purveyor of such and as someone you should admire. But he exposes himself as trying to be fashionable, stylish and cool without having a particularly good grip on the references he's wielding. He isn't authentic at all, he is exactly the opposite. He knows authenticity is cool, but can't express it in an authentic way. He wants to use motorcycles, but all he knows about motorcycles has been learned from Instagram. If anything, it is a wonderful sarcastic piece on how fashion can never be authentic. It is always an inauthentic shell, a fancy dress, a costume. Fashion can make the most wonderful, artful object into a consumer item, something to add to your showoff shelf which might increase your social status. Fashion eats art for breakfast. Go to any community with an art reputation and it's 99 poser hipsters for every even slightly good idea. He's done that to make himself look cool and he's done it with poor ideas but with good camera skills. Either that or this is his commercial show reel and his career in directing denim adverts is doing a rolling burnout. e: prukinski made a similar point while I was typing. I guess why this rubs us the wrong way so much is that we get bagged in with it somehow eventually. Ola fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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This video has been submitted to me about a dozen times already, I haven't posted it on the blog because I think it's not a bad video. I mean sure the guy is doing his best Ira Glass and it's all very precious but I don't mind the message of this video. Want to be a real old timey man like your grand daddy, stop buying stupid poo poo like shaving kits and vintage motorcycles. Go out get a job, make some babies and support a family without whining too much. At least this kid figured something out and he didn't really ruin a motorcycle in the process, even if he did rip his mom off.
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The worst part is that he didn't figure out poo poo. He just continued to leech off his parents. The only thing anyone learned from that video was the easily bought out nature of the creator.
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Koruthaiolos posted:God I hate ~~AUTHENTICITY~~.
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I went to great personal effort to design and build an electrical adapter that would allow me to run a Garmin off the 6v power supply in my 1956 bike. I like to imagine this would send a hipster into a rage of authenticity. This is cool, how did you manage that?
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:I went to great personal effort to design and build an electrical adapter that would allow me to run a Garmin off the 6v power supply in my 1956 bike. I like to imagine this would send a hipster into a rage of authenticity. That is amazing and I would love to hear the details. If hipsters are so worried about authenticity they can start by stopping the trend of building "Cafe racers".
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Slavvy posted:This is cool, how did you manage that? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-car-6V-to-12V-voltage-converter-power-power-/350436684000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5197a770e0
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Actually IIRC he put in a 7805 LDO voltage regulator and some filters and it just makes a 5v USB charging port. More efficient that way.
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I hope he doesn't win a bunch of sweet microphones for that video. He's not even on the first page, so that's a plus. http://www.rodemic.com/myrodereel/watch edit: he's a judge's pick, though  I dunno, he's a oval office, but he did a good job telling the story about why he's a oval office.
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prukinski posted:I find the video's content itself derivative and insufferable - and I'm *at* art school, I should be this guy's core demographic - but to be fair to the guy, this is an entry for a filmmaking competition. I'm guessing artfully framed and edited shots of his hipster moustache, preferred brand / receptacle of coffee, and family history will go down better with the judges than, say, something like this, which I think we can all agree is a better video about motorcycles. The thing about this, though, is when you have a community of artists, particularly a school for same, that revels in the techniques of smelling one's own farts, students (and staff) inevitably lose touch of what's exaggerated for training effect and what's actually the desired outcome. It's an amplifying effect over time; I have a bunch of buds that are Brooklyn budding cinemamakers and most of their output is unwatchable to anyone outside that clique - but devoured and worshipped within it - because, for lack of a better way of describing it, it has that film-school fart-sniffing cranked up to 11. Also that Yamaha's pipe is stock.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Also that Yamaha's pipe is stock. What the gently caress were they thinking? It can only be a hilariously misguided attempt at style, or a horribly lazy way of meeting noise/emissions regs by an engineer who gives no fucks.
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Slavvy posted:What the gently caress were they thinking? It can only be a hilariously misguided attempt at style, or a horribly lazy way of meeting noise/emissions regs by an engineer who gives no fucks. So what you're saying is, you don't like it?
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Did someone say half-assed exhaust design? The Panigale's exhaust system doesn't meet Japanese noise regulations.
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Slavvy posted:What the gently caress were they thinking? It can only be a hilariously misguided attempt at style, or a horribly lazy way of meeting noise/emissions regs by an engineer who gives no fucks.
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Slavvy posted:What the gently caress were they thinking? It can only be a hilariously misguided attempt at style, or a horribly lazy way of meeting noise/emissions regs by an engineer who gives no fucks. It's far easier to dismiss someone's exhaust gas output than to make something oneself, isn't it?
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MetaJew posted:Did someone say half-assed exhaust design? They are LOUD AS gently caress even stock, it's insane. So is the RSV4... like makes my full Yosh 750 sound quiet.
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