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http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/doctors-go-on-attack-over-scare-campaign/2280234/ SA has shown up in the news again with a photoshop phriday image from last year, luckily Le Reddit has copped the blame.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:26 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 08:44 |
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So I've just sent an email to my convenor seeing if we can move an urgency proposal at SDC about Christine's rhetoric over supply. Right or wrong, I'm getting pretty loving tired of MPs and the "leader" deciding that the wishes of the party grassroots are an impediment to playing politics.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:28 |
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Transcript is up on Turnbull's site http://www.malcolmturnbull.com.au/media/transcript-interview-with-alan-jones-and-the-budget-and-relations-with-cliv edit: still a bastard. quote:I support re-prioritised funding of official development assistance.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:29 |
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webmeister posted:Yeah it is So you don't see the problem between our PM's CoS filling the shoes of our country's foreign minister?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:33 |
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Malcolm's looking so tired these days
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:34 |
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I wonder if Abbott will get spooked by the polls and chatter and sack Turnbull.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:35 |
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Smegmatron posted:So you don't see the problem between our PM's CoS filling the shoes of our country's foreign minister? Never thought I'd be defending Credlin (or any member of the government), but it's a context-less image of an important staffer sitting in an important meeting - getting all up in arms about it seems like a ridiculous sideshow. Besides, it's not like Abbott needs any help from the foreign minister to embarrass us
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:37 |
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Smegmatron posted:So you don't see the problem between our PM's CoS filling the shoes of our country's foreign minister? I don't see a problem with a bunch of staffers being at a meeting.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:39 |
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quote:MALCOLM TURNBULL: These people tried to censor the media. ALAN JONES JOINS THEM
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:41 |
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Smegmatron posted:So you don't see the problem between our PM's CoS filling the shoes of our country's foreign minister? Church of scientology? I don't understand this post. Does Abbott have a private cult?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:42 |
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katlington posted:Church of scientology? I don't understand this post. Does Abbott have a private cult? Chief of Staff
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:44 |
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katlington posted:Does Abbott have a private cult?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:44 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/doctors-go-on-attack-over-scare-campaign/2280234/ Poe could not have been any more correct. When you are this far beyond parody there should be crimes against it.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:45 |
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Smegmatron posted:So you don't see the problem between our PM's CoS filling the shoes of our country's foreign minister? Certainly interesting that the moment Abbott leaves the country Bishop is back in parliament. Never in the same place at the same time, hmm.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:46 |
The whole Credlin obsession is stupid and a good reflection on the quality of discourse on #auspol
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:53 |
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quote:You’re sounding very nervous Malcolm. Why are you nervous?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:55 |
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Haters Objector posted:The whole Credlin obsession is stupid and a good reflection on the quality of discourse on #auspol Actually no, it isn't. It is foolish to focus all attention on somebody who is ostensibly a figurehead of government (Abbott) when everybody knows full well who is driving a lot of the agenda (Credlin). That'd be the same as reserving for Hitler all criticism for the actions of the Nazis when characters like Goebbels did a lot of the damage.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 02:59 |
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People take self-styled Canberra insiders way too seriously.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:02 |
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Wait, I still thought the whole Credlin thing was a thing because Tones was allegedly loving her?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:04 |
Les Affaires posted:Actually no, it isn't. It is foolish to focus all attention on somebody who is ostensibly a figurehead of government (Abbott) when everybody knows full well who is driving a lot of the agenda (Credlin). Point to the specific components of the policy agenda Credlin has been responsible for. She seems more like a minder or a PR agent for a particularly stupid celebrity.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:05 |
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Haters Objector posted:Point to the specific components of the policy agenda Credlin has been responsible for. George Brandis' first action after winning office
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:07 |
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Les Affaires posted:Actually no, it isn't. It is foolish to focus all attention on somebody who is ostensibly a figurehead of government (Abbott) when everybody knows full well who is driving a lot of the agenda (Credlin). Why make it this easy for me? Jumpingmanjim posted:http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/doctors-go-on-attack-over-scare-campaign/2280234/ Zenithe posted:Poe could not have been any more correct. When you are this far beyond parody there should be crimes against it. Naaaah, this is actually pretty typical for Auspol. In response I hacked around a bit in an earlier open mail I copied: quote:Dear parents,
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:11 |
I think "Tories are above the law" well outdates Credlin's influence.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:14 |
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ZombyDog posted:Wait, I still thought the whole Credlin thing was a thing because Tones was allegedly loving her? Yeah and Pyne had an affair with Ashby and Brandis visits male prostitutes. These things may be true, but at the moment there is no reason to believe that they are.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:15 |
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Reading that Jones/Turnbull transcript is infuriating, Jones is a dickhead (no surprise). The fact that Bolt and him have gone after Turnbull (arguably to the overall detriment of the LNP) is bizarre, maybe they're that paranoid about a spill that they're preemptively painting him as a turncoat. Good to see the media is balanced in its blurting out of leadership speculation though.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:22 |
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quote:when everybody knows full well who is driving a lot of the agenda (Credlin). Can you give me a source or something for this? What exactly is it that drives her?
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:25 |
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COMCAR, presumably.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:30 |
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Pred1ct posted:Reading that Jones/Turnbull transcript is infuriating, Jones is a dickhead (no surprise). The fact that Bolt and him have gone after Turnbull (arguably to the overall detriment of the LNP) is bizarre, maybe they're that paranoid about a spill that they're preemptively painting him as a turncoat. I think Bolt at least is driven by a) A genuine dislike or mistrust of Turnbull given his social liberalism and friendliness with the ABC, academia and other high-society leftish types b) A genuine fear of what he and Palmer may be planning: Some sort of agreement/co-alition/plot between Urbane, culturally-savvy Turnbull and wealthy, reckless populist Palmer starts to look pretty dynamic when compared to the limpness of the Abbott Prime Ministership.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:31 |
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:I think Bolt at least is driven by You make the mistake of assuming that Bolt believes in anything he writes and that he isn't just a less obvious Colbert character.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:34 |
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Best piece on Credlin I've read. She doesn't do formal interviews though.sidviscous posted:You make the mistake of assuming that Bolt believes in anything he writes and that he isn't just a less obvious Colbert character. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Jun 5, 2014 |
# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:36 |
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I think it's pretty obvious that Credlin is going to have a lot of sway over Abbott, not only officially (as his CoS) but also as Loughnane's wife. If you don't think policy ideas are flowing from Loughnane into Credlin and out into Abbott, I don't know what to tell you.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:38 |
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Murodese posted:I think it's pretty obvious that Credlin is going to have a lot of sway over Abbott, not only officially (as his CoS) but also as Loughnane's wife. If you don't think policy ideas are flowing from Loughnane into Credlin and out into Abbott, I don't know what to tell you. I don't think anyone would deny that, the question is whether it's happening to a greater extent than normal.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:45 |
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I am out of the country indefinitely and not keeping up on the news, can someone please give me a percentage ratio of the likelihood of Abbott being rolled? Because at this stage I don't even care if the Liberal Party remains in power for the next 50 years, I just hate Abbott so much I want him to personally fail, early in his term, and know he failed, for the rest of his life.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:47 |
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open24hours posted:I don't think anyone would deny that, the question is whether it's happening to a greater extent than normal. Has there ever been a Chief of Staff married to the leading party's national director before? e; reminder that she's been CoS to the last 3 Liberal leaders as well, and has jumped as soon as they fell. I don't have any trouble believing that she'd abandon Abbott if he was terminal. ee; double reminder that she's as staunch a Catholic as Abbott, so a lot of the conservative social opinions (that Abbott already had) are confirmed directly by her Murodese fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jun 5, 2014 |
# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:49 |
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Aren't we so happy to have the adults in charge of our Federal Parliament? Every day is like Utopia Doctor Spaceman posted:Best piece on Credlin I've read. She doesn't do formal interviews though.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 03:51 |
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Murodese posted:ee; double reminder that she's as staunch a Catholic as Abbott Abbott isn't a staunch anything.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 04:03 |
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freebooter posted:I am out of the country indefinitely and not keeping up on the news, can someone please give me a percentage ratio of the likelihood of Abbott being rolled? Because at this stage I don't even care if the Liberal Party remains in power for the next 50 years, I just hate Abbott so much I want him to personally fail, early in his term, and know he failed, for the rest of his life. I hope never. I'd much rather see Abbott blunder his way through the next few years being an ineffective laughing stock than have someone more savvy take over who could actually get away with all the nasty poo poo they're trying to do now.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 04:04 |
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Hypation posted:Being able to do that presupposes you know the distribution or at least both the median and mean. But if all someone tells you is "the average is this" then you are screwed. This is why if someone is telling you something about the average value in a distribution; you have no idea whether that value is typical of an expected outcome or not. At least with the median result you know two things- what the median is and the fact that half the sample was higher and half lower. I get why the mode isn't actually a good average, only that its more accurate and more interesting/useful then the median fee. But the median fee doesn't tell you what the typical person actually pays. 0,0,0,10,10,10,10 - median 10. But its not reasonable to say people pay 10 on average. When its obvious roughly half are paying 0 and half are paying the median. It's just as misleading as any other "average". Say you have a pool of students paying less (HECS-supported), and a pool paying more (full fee). You get a median that is located within the most popular pool. Subsidised students generally pay less then the median, full-fee pay more; there's not much to it. The median of the subsidised students will undoubtedly rise. Which is the point that people were arguing. In some theoretical scenario, a university could decide to retain current fees and make full fees pay the difference. The only people to think that this might happen are Pyne and Hockey, university officials are voicing their opinions that this will not happen.
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 04:08 |
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You Am I posted:Credlin did an interview for Good Weekend either late last year or earlier this year. This one? It's the same kind of deal as that Arse piece; attributed quotes, but not a straight up transcript of a Q&A session. I liked the other one more, but they're both decent (with a fair bit of overlap).
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Abbott isn't a staunch anything. That's not true, he's staunchly anti-staunchness
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# ? Jun 5, 2014 04:09 |