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Manwithastick posted:I'm probably wrong but Main event wouldn't even need to have that much extra work to be a "much watch" - just have one main event tier guy have a short match, maybe a extra promo and you'd be set, isn't the show like only an hour anyway? Gotta tune in to see Randy Orton face Jay Uso!
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Who invented the DDT? I know Jake 'The Snake' Roberts named it, but I heard it was either a botch by him reworked as a move or a move that Rick Rude used to use.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:41
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Jake Roberts and Black Gordman both came up with the move independently, and some believe that Gordman came up with it first. In any case, Roberts was the one who popularized the move, got it over as a finisher, and named it. Jake did, in fact, invent the move because of a botch, in a match with The Grappler (Len Denton). He had Denton in a headlock, and Denton stepped on his foot, tripping Jake backwards and planting his own head on the mat. Denton was smart enough to realize what happened and just laid there until Jake covered him. (I think the spot they were trying to do was Jake's finisher at the time, a running kneelift. Denton would push Jake to get out of the headlock, and Jake step back into the ropes, come off and hit the still-bent-over Denton with the kneelift.)
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Halloween Jack posted:Jake Roberts and Black Gordman both came up with the move independently, and some believe that Gordman came up with it first. In any case, Roberts was the one who popularized the move, got it over as a finisher, and named it. Younger / not fat Jake made it look like murder, too (with help from the other guy selling it of course.) The announcers also used to hype the DDT like mad. OH MAH GAWD THE DDT IT OUTTA BE BANNED 
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Halloween Jack posted:Jake Roberts and Black Gordman both came up with the move independently, and some believe that Gordman came up with it first. In any case, Roberts was the one who popularized the move, got it over as a finisher, and named it. I believe Tiger Mask came up with his Tiger Chancery snap DDT independently as well.
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Halloween Jack posted:Jake Roberts and Black Gordman both came up with the move independently, and some believe that Gordman came up with it first. In any case, Roberts was the one who popularized the move, got it over as a finisher, and named it. Black Gordman definitely came up with it before Jake, he was using it before Jake even debuted in wrestling, as was his partner Goliath. I believe Jose Lothario used it before Jake ever wrestled and it wouldn't surprise me if the move dated back further than that. Jake named it, and may have come up with it independently, it is hard to say because it is hard to believe many Jake Roberts stories.
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oh yeah so I was at the PPV and during the Cena/Bray match at one point the ref started putting on those latex gloves doctors use? but then Bray hit that Sister Abigail on the outside and the ref ripped em off real quick so he could count? never saw the gloves again. Anyone know what that could be about? For a minute I thought one of them had been busted open and maybe that ref was trained to treat the cut real quick but nope
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The thing with Gordman and Tiger Mask's moves is that I'm not sure they're even trying to make it appear that their opponent's head is going into the ground. Until Sprecherscrow mentioned it, I always thought the Tiger Chancery was just supposed to be a lightning-quick takeover.
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epitasis posted:oh yeah so I was at the PPV and during the Cena/Bray match at one point the ref started putting on those latex gloves doctors use? but then Bray hit that Sister Abigail on the outside and the ref ripped em off real quick so he could count? never saw the gloves again. Anyone know what that could be about? For a minute I thought one of them had been busted open and maybe that ref was trained to treat the cut real quick but nope Bray's elbow was bleeding.
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epitasis posted:oh yeah so I was at the PPV and during the Cena/Bray match at one point the ref started putting on those latex gloves doctors use? but then Bray hit that Sister Abigail on the outside and the ref ripped em off real quick so he could count? never saw the gloves again. Anyone know what that could be about? For a minute I thought one of them had been busted open and maybe that ref was trained to treat the cut real quick but nope For Payback? Yeah, Bray was busted open pretty fierce on his left elbow (The arm that always looks bloody because of his tattoo), after the stair throwing spot. Ref probably didn't want to risk getting Abdullah'd, then realized it wasn't a pinfall match.
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ohhh okay thanks. Yeah never actually saw the blood
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I feel like some indy guy used to enter to "Dead and Bloated" by Stone Temple Pilots. Who was it? Or was that some backyard wrestling video I happened upon some time?
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I feel like some indy guy used to enter to "Dead and Bloated" by Stone Temple Pilots. Who was it? Or was that some backyard wrestling video I happened upon some time? Chris Hero
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oatgan posted:Chris Hero Was it really? I'll be damned, 'cause I can't remember ever watching an early Hero match. Huh. Thanks!
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Not speaking Spanish, and thus never listening to the Spanish Announcers, I was wondering - do they have a Spanish version of Micheal Cole, a Spanish King, a Spanish JBL etc? Do these announcers have their own personalities to bounce off each other, or are they told to ape the English ones? Also, as Vince yells in Cole's ear to "shut the gently caress up about the match at hand and push teh network a little more you sniveling worm!", is there someone backstage to translate that and then yell it in the ear of Spanish dude?
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BrigadierSensible posted:Also, as Vince yells in Cole's ear to "shut the gently caress up about the match at hand and push teh network a little more you sniveling worm!", is there someone backstage to translate that and then yell it in the ear of Spanish dude? I haven't listened to them but from what I've heard they don't have anyone yelling in their ears and they've been better than the English announcers for a really long time. Carlos Cabrera's been the play-by-play guy since 1993, I think.
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What do you think was the biggest/greatest Wrestlemania match? To me, it has to be a match that lives up to the hype of the event and of the competitors. For me, it's gotta be HBK vs Ric Flair at Wrestlemania 24. It was like the greatest hits of Flair's wrestling career, had some amazing mark out moments, one of the best endings ever, and possibly the greatest send off to a WWE career.
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Spikeguy posted:What do you think was the biggest/greatest Wrestlemania match? To me, it has to be a match that lives up to the hype of the event and of the competitors. For me, it's gotta be HBK vs Ric Flair at Wrestlemania 24. It was like the greatest hits of Flair's wrestling career, had some amazing mark out moments, one of the best endings ever, and possibly the greatest send off to a WWE career. I don't think there's ever been a better WWE match than Taker-Shawn I.
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Spikeguy posted:What do you think was the biggest/greatest Wrestlemania match? To me, it has to be a match that lives up to the hype of the event and of the competitors. For me, it's gotta be HBK vs Ric Flair at Wrestlemania 24. It was like the greatest hits of Flair's wrestling career, had some amazing mark out moments, one of the best endings ever, and possibly the greatest send off to a WWE career. Bret vs. Owen at WM10.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Was it really? I'll be damned, 'cause I can't remember ever watching an early Hero match. Huh. Thanks! Ahhh this brings back great memories of watching Hero back in the indie days. Cesaro/Claudio used to come out to a sweet instrumental version of "Sledgehammer" when he had his Swiss banker gimmick too 
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I'll always have a massive soft spot for Bret v Piper at VIII, even though I know it would barely scrape into most people's top 5 for Bret alone.
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Spikeguy posted:What do you think was the biggest/greatest Wrestlemania match? To me, it has to be a match that lives up to the hype of the event and of the competitors. For me, it's gotta be HBK vs Ric Flair at Wrestlemania 24. It was like the greatest hits of Flair's wrestling career, had some amazing mark out moments, one of the best endings ever, and possibly the greatest send off to a WWE career. I know I'm probably the only person in the world who has this opinion, but i think the best WrestleMania match ever is Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels from WM21. I think it's an absolutely stellar and perfect match and it only gets better every time you watch it.
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I'd also like to give honorable mention to HHH v Undertaker III at Wrestlemania 28 with special guest star: Shawn Michaels. That match told a hell of a story that was the culmination of four years.
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Spikeguy posted:What do you think was the biggest/greatest Wrestlemania match? To me, it has to be a match that lives up to the hype of the event and of the competitors. For me, it's gotta be HBK vs Ric Flair at Wrestlemania 24. It was like the greatest hits of Flair's wrestling career, had some amazing mark out moments, one of the best endings ever, and possibly the greatest send off to a WWE career. Personally, I would say Austin/Rock II at Wrestlemania X7. Wrestlemania Main Events should act as season finales, and it is the perfect finale for the Attitude Era, with it's two biggest faces facing off for the title.
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Kevino07 posted:Personally, I would say Austin/Rock II at Wrestlemania X7. Wrestlemania Main Events should act as season finales, and it is the perfect finale for the Attitude Era, with it's two biggest faces facing off for the title. Yeah but no body likes Austin's heel turn.
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DangerKat posted:Yeah but no body likes Austin's heel turn. What?
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I wasn't watching wrestling when that what thing happened, but seeing the crowd still occasionally scream 'what' after every word a wrestler says is always hilarious. Also Piper is one of my favorites, and yet I've never seen a full match of his. He just is charismatic as all poo poo, and seems like a genuinely nice guy now. Also They Live is the best movie. God bless that 20 minute fight scene.
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derriere demons posted:Also Piper is one of my favorites, and yet I've never seen a full match of his. If you tune into Tuesday Nitro (Sunday this week due to MRT issues, I believe), you'll learn to hate, hate, hate Piper.
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Great White Hope posted:If you tune into Tuesday Nitro (Sunday this week due to MRT issues, I believe), you'll learn to hate, hate, hate Piper. This is sadly true. I was a gigantic Piper fan as a kid and was initally exicited when he showed up in WCW before becoming completely disillusioned rather fast. You really should stick to his old WWF work if you want to continue to remember him fondly.
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derriere demons posted:Also Piper is one of my favorites, and yet I've never seen a full match of his. He just is charismatic as all poo poo, and seems like a genuinely nice guy now. Also They Live is the best movie. God bless that 20 minute fight scene. Even if you're crazy and don't like the match, the commentary is some of the best ever.
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derriere demons posted:I wasn't watching wrestling when that what thing happened, but seeing the crowd still occasionally scream 'what' after every word a wrestler says is always hilarious. you should watch the Greg Valentine vs. Piper match at Starrcade 1. It is brutal and really really good.
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Spikeguy posted:What do you think was the biggest/greatest Wrestlemania match? To me, it has to be a match that lives up to the hype of the event and of the competitors. If I had to pick one to defend on merit it'd be one of the Taker/HBK/HHH series, or a Rock-Austin. But, my gut answer is probably always going to be Hogan/Warrior at WM6.
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derriere demons posted:Also Piper is one of my favorites, and yet I've never seen a full match of his. He just is charismatic as all poo poo, and seems like a genuinely nice guy now. Also They Live is the best movie. God bless that 20 minute fight scene. Piper/Blender - Legends House E01
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Bard Maddox posted:I know I'm probably the only person in the world who has this opinion, but i think the best WrestleMania match ever is Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels from WM21. I think it's an absolutely stellar and perfect match and it only gets better every time you watch it. Yeah, if I was somehow accosted and forced to give a quick answer without really thinking about it, this would be the one. I loving love that match.
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Since widespread internet access, have there been any genuine, big surprises in wrestling? I'm thinking Cena returning early at the Royal Rumble as the kind of thing, though I don't actually know how shocking that was.
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Weren't a bunch of people surprised at the Rock being the surprise guest host at Wrestlemania?
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Nobody believed that my client BROCK LESNAR would break the Streak! Anyway, in a fun WWE.com article, Natalya regrets that she cannot break Eva Marie's young neck: http://www.wwe.com/inside/what-moves-do-superstars-wish-they-could-do-26362980/page-7
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Revenant Threshold posted:Since widespread internet access, have there been any genuine, big surprises in wrestling? I'm thinking Cena returning early at the Royal Rumble as the kind of thing, though I don't actually know how shocking that was. Edge's Rumble return/win was a surprise IIRC
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Golden Bee posted:Nobody believed that my client Fandango's choice is hilarious quote:Twinkle-toes Fandango chalked up his fascination with the Shooting Star Press to his well-documented celestial obsession.
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Bard Maddox posted:I know I'm probably the only person in the world who has this opinion, but i think the best WrestleMania match ever is Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels from WM21. I think it's an absolutely stellar and perfect match and it only gets better every time you watch it. 
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