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Beeez posted:... and Rhaegar doesn't seem like a rapist to some. Rhaegar is pretty much the only "good" character in the series, and he was killed years ago. Naive, but good.
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They could be complicated, but that was complicated by her death. Had she lived it would have changed things. Though even discounting the prophecy he was obsessed with her anyway, willing to break a betrothal, so he wasn't as honorable as most claim he was.
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Jun 7, 2014 01:27
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Her betrothal and his marriage, yes. We know very little of what Rhaegar was really like, but it does seem like his obsession with the dragon having three heads surpassed his honor.
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Jun 7, 2014 01:33
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Considering Robert was pretty clearly a shithead even before the rebellion, it doesn't seem unlikely at all that highly individual and strong willed Lyanna Stark might actually choose to run off with the hot bishie dragon prince instead of being forced into marrying her brothers complete rear end in a top hat best friend despite Ned's protestations of "seriously he's a really great guy!"
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Jun 7, 2014 01:35
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Someone probably mentioned this before, but I have the suspicion that they are going to make the sons of the harpy kill Grey Worm in the season finale. All of the Grey Worm / Missandei eunuch romance stuff and character development being there and getting emphasis in the second to last normal (non-Night's Watch only) episode of the season feels a lot like the Robb / Talisa scenes from right before the Red Wedding last season. It would set up a lot of the ADWD Meereen plot for next season which hasn't really appeared this season other than Hizdahr being introduced. And if it is going to be in the last episode, it seems like the show would prefer to kill a named character as the first victim rather than random Unsullied and former slaves. Along with Drogon killing Hazzea and the chaining up of the dragons it seems like these would be the two big events that signal that things in Meereen are getting serious. I know he is still alive in the books but as far as I know and after briefly double checking the wiki, there is nothing really important he needs to do in the future that couldn't be done by somebody else, or possibly by having a new leader for the Unsullied being chosen.
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Jun 7, 2014 01:37
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the jizz taxi posted:Er, in ACOK he does tell Davos that he feels remorse for his brother's death and that he loved him, but that Renly brough it upon himself. It's a neat inversion of Renly admitting to Cat earlier in the novel that he respected Stannis but never loved him. quote:“Maester Cressen was your faithful servant. She slew him, as she killed Ser Cortnay Penrose and your brother Renly.” Book Stannis absolutely denies he or Mel had anything to do with Renly's death.
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Jun 7, 2014 01:41
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They're saving the pillar and the stones reveal for the finale.
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Jun 7, 2014 01:41
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Shouldn't we be getting a new thread title? We are all hoping to see "Stannis! Stannis" or Tywin not making GBS threads gold or Lady Stoneheart, and I feel we should get a title to reflect our optimism about those things and then our unavoidable dissapointment.
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asvodel posted:Someone probably mentioned this before, but I have the suspicion that they are going to make the sons of the harpy kill Grey Worm in the season finale. While I think they are developing the Missandei/Grey Worm relationship for similar reasons I think the ultimate goal is to kill Missandei instead actually. If she fills in for Belwas and pigs out on poison during reopening of the fighting pits next season and starts vomiting up blood everywhere before dying it will give Grey Worm motivation and a character arc to run with while Dany is out of the picture.
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Jun 7, 2014 01:55
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What are everyone's thoughts on how the battle plays out sunday? Boths attacks at once, south of the wall first then north of the wall the next day, something else entirely?
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Picard Day posted:While I think they are developing the Missandei/Grey Worm relationship for similar reasons I think the ultimate goal is to kill Missandei instead actually. If she fills in for Belwas and pigs out on poison during reopening of the fighting pits next season and starts vomiting up blood everywhere before dying it will give Grey Worm motivation and a character arc to run with while Dany is out of the picture. Lycus fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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Narmi posted:Yeah, he's talking to Theon, and calls Theon out on spying on him for Ramsay, but it's not like what he says isn't true. Bran lost Winterfell because he thought it would be a good idea to empty the castle's garrison to deal with invaders who were right next door, Tytos Lannisters was the third son and let people walk all over him in order to get their approval, Tommen signed to order to arrest and imprison his mom because some old men put a piece of paper in front of him and he like playing with his seal, so in a way it does make sense why Roose would rather have a cruel son than one who is a pushover or incompetent. Young is not interchangeable with pushover or incompetent; his first son was pretty awesome even at a young age.....never mind
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Robert was built like a brick shithouse and was caving in burly dudes chests with a massive hammer, so yeah, you kinda don't want to make him mad.
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hellbastard posted:That would be kind of cool. Jon stays dead, Jamie steps up to the plate. OK I've seen the book excerpts and I agree. I was just kind of challenging an idea from the books that I didn't specifically remember, but it's been some years.
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http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/06/proof-that-being-an-extra-on-game-of-thrones-is-as-fun-as-it-sounds/ Man I wish I could stand around in that sweet Lannister armor for a couple days.
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That looks rad as hell. Totes jelly that he got a sweet pic with Natalie Dormer.
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Eej posted:http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/06/proof-that-being-an-extra-on-game-of-thrones-is-as-fun-as-it-sounds/ Why is everyone involved with GoT an amazing person? I don't think I've ever seen a production where everyone hangs out and is best buds other than LOTR and Harry Potter. And even those don't really come close to this. Locke was in Edge of Tomorrow, and he looks exactly the same on the show, but make him hunched over a bit and he's not nearly an menacing. Also Dontos is in it as well. As for tomorrow, I'd not be surprised if it opens with Thormunds group attacking, them getting all killed except for Thormund, who Jon captures. Then Thormund tells everyone that Jon was totally a Wilding, banged a wildling and gave up intel, leading to him being imprisoned. The Main attack comes, Thorne is killed, and Slynt runs and hides and everyone goes "welp, we need a leader, lets get Jon" and he's freed leads them to victory. Episode 10 will have Jon being elected Lord Commander. At some point I hope Tywin is reminded that he is directly responsible for the death of 2 of Doran's siblings, and how Dorne is a place where revenge is a popular past time.
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Jun 7, 2014 06:15
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Have Val and Dalla been written out? Jon "capturing" Val was kinda important in the story since she's the one that finds and brings the wildlings that escaped Stannis back, though Tormund could very well take her role since he's on the other side of the Wall already.
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twistedmentat posted:Why is everyone involved with GoT an amazing person? 
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twistedmentat posted:Why is everyone involved with GoT an amazing person? I don't think I've ever seen a production where everyone hangs out and is best buds other than LOTR and Harry Potter. The cast for the Walking Dead sounds pretty chummy. They always talk about the sendoff dinners and tearful goodbyes when someone gets killed off.
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Picard Day posted:While I think they are developing the Missandei/Grey Worm relationship for similar reasons I think the ultimate goal is to kill Missandei instead actually. If she fills in for Belwas and pigs out on poison during reopening of the fighting pits next season and starts vomiting up blood everywhere before dying it will give Grey Worm motivation and a character arc to run with while Dany is out of the picture. poo poo that depressingly makes more sense to me, at least. I hadn't thought of that. Grey Worm will be leading part of the army in the battle of meereen and probably has further stuff to do but Missandei doesn't so much. I mean ideally they wouldn't kill off anybody because they're already starved for characters anyone gives a poo poo about in Essos. Maybe they're cutting down for the Dornish and FAegon's crew, Vic/euron which will be a whole buncha new guys to introduce. Betting on the lady getting fridge'd is usually depressingly wise.
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nopantsjack posted:Betting on the lady getting fridge'd is usually depressingly wise. What if they reversed that poo poo and had Grey Worm eat it instead and Missandei + barristan go ape poo poo on fools
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Jerkface posted:What if they reversed that poo poo and had Grey Worm eat it instead and Missandei + barristan go ape poo poo on fools What if they reversed that poo poo altogether and decided: hey, we haven't had one single successful relationship in this series where one partner wasn't killed, let's randomly make one?
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meristem posted:What if they reversed that poo poo altogether and decided: hey, we haven't had one single successful relationship in this series where one partner wasn't killed, let's randomly make one? Jaime and Cersei?
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Jun 7, 2014 11:57
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Sansa and Uncle Littlefinger are on track.
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I think if something happens with grey worm or missandei it will be this season rather than next, because there's not much time covering dany's plotline and a lot of it is devoted to this. The show likes to be pretty self-contained within seasons as far as arcs and foreshadowing are concerned, due to the year long break between seasons where smaller things like this would be forgotten by most.
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twistedmentat posted:Why is everyone involved with GoT an amazing person? I don't think I've ever seen a production where everyone hangs out and is best buds other than LOTR and Harry Potter. Location shooting over a long stretch of time. You either become friends or the whole thing turns toxic and falls apart.
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Lycus posted:Sansa and Uncle Littlefinger are on track. I'll be severely disappointed if Littlefinger's story doesn't end with Sansa offing him.
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Jun 7, 2014 12:54
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I'll be severely disappointed if Littlefinger's story doesn't end with Sansa offing him. Which of course is exactly what he was expecting, so he turns the tables and offs Sansa instead, proving once and for all that Starks are the worst.
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Higsian posted:I'd also be satisfied with a Tyrion or Arya murder of Littlefinger. On the other hand then we couldn't have 'Oh my silly husband, I only ever loved one man; Ned Stark.' which would be pretty baller Irish Joe posted:Which of course is exactly what he was expecting, so he turns the tables and offs Sansa instead, proving once and for all that Starks are the worst. Sansa is like his one blindspot though, he genuinely loves her in his own creeper way and that would fit in with the story's whole overarching 'you get sentimental and you die' theme to a T. No Dignity fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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Jun 7, 2014 13:13
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Only Cat, or a reasonable approximation thereof.
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I'll be severely disappointed if Littlefinger's story doesn't end with Sansa offing him. Higsian posted:I'd also be satisfied with a Tyrion or Arya murder of Littlefinger. I'm all for a family reunion and resolving family differences in a constructive way. Especially Sansa and Arya. I just want them to understand each other. Deciding that no single way of extracting revenge on your father's murderer is better.  Then, Arya can go on to being Sansa's personal assassin, or something.
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Littlefinger would die a happy man if Sansa betrays him and becomes a major player.
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Littlefinger is the hero of the story and anyone who wants him dead is a big jerk.  He's the Xanatos of Westeros.
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A Steampunk Gent posted:Sansa is like his one blindspot though Sansa isn't even his biggest blindspot, it's his refusal to believe in magical poo poo. Obvious Sophie Turner height joke notwithstanding.
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So the Season 4 Soundtrack preview has been released. Someone in the comments pointed out that Oathkeeper sounds like a good Lady Stoneheart theme. Looks like they're definitely going with Brienne's last AFFC chapter for the Stoneheart reveal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd-RBTvLhI4
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Wallet Inspector posted:So the Season 4 Soundtrack preview has been released. Someone in the comments pointed out that Oathkeeper sounds like a good Lady Stoneheart theme. Looks like they're definitely going with Brienne's last AFFC chapter for the Stoneheart reveal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd-RBTvLhI4 That last song owns in your typical finale way.
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computer parts posted:That last song owns in your typical finale way. Agreed. It seems like a up beat feel good version - kind of like the bit we got at the end when the hound and Arya PKd that whole inn.
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