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Lurdiak posted:The serial adulterer and sexual harasser, yes. It seems to be that if you want to get a gig at Marvel, you have a history of racism or sexual harassment. Or if you wanna direct one of their movies, a way to get on their radar is to make a Top 25 list of heroes you'd like to gently caress.
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Lurdiak posted:I finally decided to read Loki's ongoing today, and holy crap this is a fun book. Also, very confusing to explain. Glad to see I'm not the only fan. It relies on some JiM stuff a bit too much sometimes but it's too fun to care. I know it probably won't last long but it'll hopefully be fun the whole way.
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Jun 5, 2014 04:52
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notthegoatseguy posted:Or if you wanna direct one of their movies, a way to get on their radar is to make a Top 25 list of heroes you'd like to gently caress. 15 year old Rhyno should be directing pretty much everything.
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gogisha posted:Glad to see I'm not the only fan. It relies on some JiM stuff a bit too much sometimes but it's too fun to care. I know it probably won't last long but it'll hopefully be fun the whole way. It's just delightful, the way it deals with tales and legends is super fun, too  I really hope it lasts past the Original Sin tie-in miniseries, tho.
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Jun 5, 2014 05:30
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notthegoatseguy posted:Or if you wanna direct one of their movies, a way to get on their radar is to make a Top 25 list of heroes you'd like to gently caress. Hot new artist The Internet confirmed to direct Avengers 3.
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So, uh, dunno if anybody mentioned this bit of business yet but 300,000 sounds like a lot of sales for a book about a talking raccoon. I'm sure there's some implications here but I'm no big city lawyer
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Jun 5, 2014 08:45
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Lunatic Sledge posted:So, uh, dunno if anybody mentioned this bit of business yet but 300,000 sounds like a lot of sales for a book about a talking raccoon. I'm sure there's some implications here but I'm no big city lawyer The top selling books like Batman usually do roughly 100,000 a month, Amazing Spider-Man relaunch did 500,000 because of being a big #1. 300,000 is a lot for a "small" book like Rocket Raccoon though I guess it depends on how many of those they actually sell.
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Jun 5, 2014 09:05
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:New Warriors reached adorable new heights this issue. There was a lot of good Marvel stuff this week but that was probably my favorite issue. Just so much fun. "These are our new friends, Jake Waffles and Mister Whiskers!"
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Jun 5, 2014 10:43
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Lunatic Sledge posted:So, uh, dunno if anybody mentioned this bit of business yet but 300,000 sounds like a lot of sales for a book about a talking raccoon. I'm sure there's some implications here but I'm no big city lawyer
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Jun 5, 2014 12:36
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notthegoatseguy posted:It seems to be that if you want to get a gig at Marvel, you have a history of racism or sexual harassment. ... ... ... ... I don't really like Brian Wood at all but "serial adulterer and sexual harasser" is laying it on a little thick (in that I don't believe he was married for at least one of the two(?) incidents people called him out on) but where there's smoke there's etc. and sure, it is very very likely Brian Wood has acted in a lovely manner towards more than just the women who have come forward. But maybe I'm missing something, who are the other racists and sexual predators? I assume there are a bunch of them given your comment.
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Jun 5, 2014 13:00
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Nick Spencer made some racist comments one time, or something.
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Jun 5, 2014 13:04
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You wouldn't believe the stories I've heard about this O. Writer guy.
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irlZaphod posted:Nick Spencer made some racist comments one time, or something.
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Jun 5, 2014 13:18
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Nick Spencer is a pretty terrible writer from what little I've read by him but Brian Wood is fine from what little I've read by him.
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Jun 5, 2014 13:21
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Deadpool posted:Nick Spencer is a pretty terrible writer from what little I've read by him but Brian Wood is fine from what little I've read by him. Read Superior Foes you numbnuts.
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Edge & Christian posted:Oh right. I always forget that whole "using scare tactics to promote some sort of zoning that would help his night club instead of a black-owned night club" bit within the overall weird shadiness of everything else about Spencer. Fair call, Marvel has sporadically published (and is currently publishing) the work of a solid two guys of dubious backgrounds. As they employ what, about five people total, that's a big proportion. I have to assume G Willow Wilson and Al Ewing and Kieron Gillen and Annie Wu and Stuart Immonen and Steve Epting and Olivier Copiel are all MRA anti-immigrant shitheels too, how else did they get their jobs? It's not really relevant, but I recently read this CBR article (sorry) about the original X-Men vs Avengers crossover from 1987, and there's one dude in the comments trying to make the case that the right-wing political views of some folks in the Marvel bullpen in the 1980s influenced how they treated at the X-Men as the red-headed stepchild of the Marvel family. Which is maybe a bit silly, I think (office politics are probably more to blame than actual politics), but I thought it was an odd point to make.
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quote:Now, to your question. Well, Warren had decided that 6 issues was all he wanted to do. He wrote 6 excellent issues (the last of which I’m currently inking) and I really am enjoying the hell out of them; I truly am proud of them all. But regardless, there will be no more Warren Ellis scripts, so my choices were to continue on the book with another writer, or step aside and let a new team try their hand. Well, there you go.
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Jun 5, 2014 22:50
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I wonder if everyone knew that going in. If Ellis said from the start he only wanted six issues then I kinda wish they'd have just made it a mini, but I'm being prejudicial.
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Jun 5, 2014 23:04
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Edge & Christian posted:Absolutely, just look at how it worked for... Based on when the other incident happened he was definitely married and his wife was either pregnant or taking care of a new born infant. (that's the only one I know about, and that was merely him being a creepy harassing jerk, I didn't know about any incidents of actual adultery).
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Jun 5, 2014 23:06
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I'm reading Secret Invasion, and its supposed to confusing to keep track of who's a Skrull and who's not? Even some fo the Skrulls don't know they're Skrulls.
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Jun 6, 2014 01:06
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Senor Candle posted:Read Superior Foes you numbnuts.
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Edge & Christian posted:Hey sizzlechest, a mildly amusing sitcom that lives and dies on the merit of Steve Lieber's artwork doesn't exactly make up for several dozen incredibly bad issues of a bunch of other titles. Lieber's artwork is good but to say that it's the only good thing about that book is very misleading. It's drat well-written, regardless of Spencer's other lovely books. Not everyone has to be entirely good or entirely bad. lovely writers write good books sometimes. Long Halloween is still good. poo poo, even Daniel Way has one or two winners under his belt.
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Kaleidoscope posted:I wonder if everyone knew that going in. If Ellis said from the start he only wanted six issues then I kinda wish they'd have just made it a mini, but I'm being prejudicial. Ellis is the writer version of Tony Moore: he gets on a comic for a few issues and bails out, with the hope being that people who don't pay attention to creative teams keep reading because they liked the first few issues so much.
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twistedmentat posted:I'm reading Secret Invasion, and its supposed to confusing to keep track of who's a Skrull and who's not? Even some fo the Skrulls don't know they're Skrulls. It's ok it doesn't matter.
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Lurdiak posted:Ellis is the writer version of Tony Moore: he gets on a comic for a few issues and bails out, with the hope being that people who don't pay attention to creative teams keep reading because they liked the first few issues so much. What other series has he done that on? I honestly don't know the last comic where he wrote the first issue and didn't write the last.
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Nevvy Z posted:It's ok it doesn't matter. I'm guessing that. I am enjoying Ms Marvel completely schooling the entire Super Skrull army on her own, and the Runaways/Young Avengers storline is pretty great. Though the Anime style artwork in those issues make everyone look way younger than they seem. Molly looks about 6 and Nico looks about 12. Also loved The Skrull Queen trying to get Tony to think he's a Skrull because all the stupid poo poo he's done made their job easier.
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Skwirl posted:What other series has he done that on? I honestly don't know the last comic where he wrote the first issue and didn't write the last. Are we talking about Ellis or Moore? Because if we're talking Ellis, there's Iron Man, Thunderbolts and Secret Avengers as precedent. edit: his brief Ultimate Fantastic Four run might count, too. Ellis is king of the placeholder run. That's why, though the news about Moon Knight is disappointing, it couldn't be less surprising. Especially since the last time he wrote Moon Knight was in a six-issue placeholder run just like this one. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Are we talking about Ellis or Moore? Because if we're talking Ellis, there's Iron Man, Thunderbolts and Secret Avengers as precedent. The major reason he did Ultimate FF is because Mark Millar was dieing at the time. I forgot about Iron Man, but the other ones was him just taking over for a spell, lots of people do short arcs.
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Skwirl posted:The major reason he did Ultimate FF is because Mark Millar was dieing at the time. I forgot about Iron Man, but the other ones was him just taking over for a spell, lots of people do short arcs. Right, but the specific short arcs he does are exactly of the kind Lurdiak was talking about. He hops on for six to twelve issues when Marvel wants to boost something's profile, then he bounces. His Thunderbolts run is dope, but it's got "editorial mandate" written all over it.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Right, but the specific short arcs he does are exactly of the kind Lurdiak was talking about. He hops on for six to twelve issues when Marvel wants to boost something's profile, then he bounces. His Thunderbolts run is dope, but it's got "editorial mandate" written all over it. Also, it's got a C-lister breaking Bullseye spine, it was awesome.
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I think that's what he did with Doktor Sleepless, though it's probably a bit harder to get a new writer to come in on your own creator-owned property.
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He was planning on doing it with Nextwave, too, but the sales were so low they just cancelled it.
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Is there a handy guide on the Marvel Now trades line for newbies? What you need to know, what's good, what to stay away from, any big dumb events?
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There's a recommending reading thread actually: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3611169 I think it would be easier to just check to see if an event is worth reading, since they have spotty quality. The recent Infinity series was good though.
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Genetic Toaster posted:He was planning on doing it with Nextwave, too, but the sales were so low they just cancelled it. I thought the deal with Nextwave was that the sales were too low to keep Immonen on as the artist, since he was just exploding as an artist at the time, and Ellis didn't want to do it with a different artist.
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Skwirl posted:I thought the deal with Nextwave was that the sales were too low to keep Immonen on as the artist, since he was just exploding as an artist at the time, and Ellis didn't want to do it with a different artist.
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Timeless Appeal posted:I think the deal was that Ellis was always planning to leave after issue 12 and Immonen couldn't stay on for the stated reasons. That's not what anyone ever said. Every time I've heard it it was the story about Immonen leaving because the sales couldn't justify his salary and Ellis didn't want to switch artists. I mean, that could've been a lie.
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Lurdiak posted:That's not what anyone ever said. Every time I've heard it it was the story about Immonen leaving because the sales couldn't justify his salary and Ellis didn't want to switch artists. I'm sure there was a hard drive crash in there somewhere.
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Lurdiak posted:That's not what anyone ever said. Every time I've heard it it was the story about Immonen leaving because the sales couldn't justify his salary and Ellis didn't want to switch artists. He was planning to leave after 12 issues, but apparently that changed towards the end. But then the news about Immonen came up.
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BigRed0427 posted:Is there a handy guide on the Marvel Now trades line for newbies? What you need to know, what's good, what to stay away from, any big dumb events? It's probably easier to tell you what to avoid, and you just pick your favorite characters, most of it's so good.
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