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ZergFluid posted:It was also endorsed by Susan Walsh, blogger at hooking up smart, who's now busy distancing herself from Red Pill/Manosphere after partnering with the Huffington Post: why do you know all this boring poo poo? You should spend less time on the internet and more time trying to hit up some slizz.
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I am OK posted:why do you know all this boring poo poo? You should spend less time on the internet and more time trying to hit up some slizz. I am a huge nerd afraid of the real world.
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Pure Red Pill statistical data: https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/474733253308719104/photo/1 Women CAN be used up because the most attractive cohort (early 20s women) is being targeted by their peers and men considerably older. Before the Sexual Revolution, an older attractive man had to be content with a woman his age. Now he's free to keep dating younger women. This obviously deprives other men.
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ZergFluid posted:Pure Red Pill statistical data: You're a loving dipshit. Absolutely hilarious if you don't think the wealthy and powerful in the 18th and 19th century wheren't slamming teen pussy like there was no tomorrow. Even loving Karl Marx was getting in on that action and knocking up his maid.
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ZergFluid, please analyze my romantic history and tell me where I fit into your theory of sexual econonomics (sexonomics): I'm a heterosexual woman who has never really gone out to clubs or hooked up. Nobody asked me out in high school, largely because I was (and still am) a weirdo. In my sophomore year, two freshmen asked me out (not at the same time, of course), and I turned them down because I wasn't attracted to either of them. (The one dude also had some major mental issues he still needs to work through, and I really didn't want to deal with them.) I then spent a few months basically being a Nice Girl to a senior and was fortunate enough to win him over. That was over seven years ago, and we're still together. I am the only person my boyfriend has ever dated, and we gave our virginity to each other.
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d3c0y2 posted:You're a loving dipshit. Absolutely hilarious if you don't think the wealthy and powerful in the 18th and 19th century wheren't slamming teen pussy like there was no tomorrow. Even loving Karl Marx was getting in on that action and knocking up his maid. What fraction of humanity was "wealthy and powerful"? The aristocracy and the males of the entrenched elites might have gotten away with more, but in general those societies shamed extra-marital affairs. Now a handsome dude who's merely middle class can be a pussy slayer in the manner I describe: Hoarding female erotic capital at the expense of other men.
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Pththya-lyi posted:ZergFluid, please analyze my romantic history and tell me where I fit into your theory of sexual econonomics (sexonomics): Congratulations. Unfortuantely, there is no such thing as a nice girl, because it's almost always up to the male to take the initiative. It sounds like you're the girl in this cartoon: http://wizardchan.org/v9k/src/1sd0dcvq.wizardchan.1372217513929.png The other problem in your story would be if you two were to break up and then he starts dating a younger women, even if she's a few years younger then you. Because then not only would he have monopolized the your best years (in terms of sexual marketplace value), he would also be dipping back down into the pool of young women to get another woman's best years. As I said, this sort of behavior ends up depriving other men.
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ZergFluid posted:What fraction of humanity was "wealthy and powerful"? The aristocracy and the males of the entrenched elites might have gotten away with more, but in general those societies shamed extra-marital affairs. Now a handsome dude who's merely middle class can be a pussy slayer in the manner I describe: Hoarding female erotic capital at the expense of other men. Yeah, no. Hate to slam some realtalk on ya but there wasn't some good old days. Family structures completely broke down during the industrial revolution, and in the poor and working class extra-martial affairs, adultery and all kinds of fornication the Church would deplore was rampant. It took until the late industrial revolution and the development of skilled working class positions such as railway workers, which brought with it an actual livable wage for the family structure to re-emerge in the working class. The effects of breakdown of the family unit on children is well known and discussed, but the effect it had on sexual relations is less talked about because sex is icky but the fact of the matter is that people where living hosed up depressing lives back then and one of the symptoms of that was rampant prostitution, adultery, rape and other sexual crimes. The rich where raping and abusing women, the poor where raping and abusing women. Being a woman back then sucked rear end and if you really think there was some form of truly monogamous sexual equality society going on back then your an idiot fucker. d3c0y2 fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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d3c0y2 posted:Yeah, no. Hate to slam some realtalk on ya but there wasn't some good old days. Family structures completely broke down during the industrial revolution, and in the poor and working class extra-martial affairs, adultery and all kinds of fornication the Church would deplore was rampant. This is ridiculous "womenz were opressed in the past" SJW nonesense. The past sucked for everybody. Compare getting sexually abused to getting bayoneted in the neck on the battlefield. I think the latter is far worse. And while we can say there were many instances of outright rape/sexual abuse in the past, perhaps far more so than now, it's ridiculous to imply that that was true for every woman, just as ridiculous as it would be to suggest that every male ended up getting physically maimed in warfare.
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ZergFluid posted:Congratulations. Unfortuantely, there is no such thing as a nice girl, because it's almost always up to the male to take the initiative. It sounds like you're the girl in this cartoon: I didn't put in a crucial datum: I asked him to be my Valentine. (He said no because he wasn't sure about me yet.) ZergFluid posted:This is ridiculous "womenz were opressed in the past" SJW nonesense. The past sucked for everybody. Compare getting sexually abused to getting bayoneted in the neck on the battlefield. I think the latter is far worse. And while we can say there were many instances of outright rape/sexual abuse in the past, perhaps far more so than now, it's ridiculous to imply that that was true for every woman, just as ridiculous as it would be to suggest that every male ended up getting physically maimed in warfare. hmm yes the suffering of some men completely debunks the notion of a society where men have more rights and privileges overall
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ZergFluid posted:This is ridiculous "womenz were opressed in the past" SJW nonesense. The past sucked for everybody. Compare getting sexually abused to getting bayoneted in the neck on the battlefield. I think the latter is far worse. And while we can say there were many instances of outright rape/sexual abuse in the past, perhaps far more so than now, it's ridiculous to imply that that was true for every woman, just as ridiculous as it would be to suggest that every male ended up getting physically maimed in warfare. The difference is that getting bayonetted comes as a result of warfare and getting raped in your own community is the result of hosed up sexual politics within said society. I'm pointing out that your idea that sexual relations are somehow better in the past is bullshit because of the lives women where forced to live in those times. A vast portion of women where raped or sexually abused, and those that where not still lived in the constant fear that they could be. Therefore pointing out how much it sucks to be a women in those conditions is relevant. Pointing out how much it sucks to get bayoneted fighting the Boer war is really not relevant because no poo poo sherlock warfare loving sucks for every poor fucker involved. I mean poo poo by this dumb logic the worst poo poo you have to put up now is that you can't shove your misshapen smegma-ridden wang into a women; which hey guess what I think is much less terrible than getting bayonetted or raped! Well maybe if you where actually allowed to put that diseased fuckstick near another human being it'd it might be worse, but well I've got more chance of getting bayonetted tomorrow than that happening. d3c0y2 fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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So Zerg, what do you want? Would you be content with moderate success at one-night stands (say once or twice a month)? Also ballpark how old are you? Under your functional utopia how exactly would you getting laid work?
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Afaik women have a very hard time opting out of being approached. Even hideous ugly women get sexually assaulted.
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Pththya-lyi posted:I didn't put in a crucial datum: I asked him to be my Valentine. (He said no because he wasn't sure about me yet.) But in general it's males who have to take the initiative. Of course you left out that datum to play "gotcha!" But good for you, you made things easier for him. If only the burden of initiating relationships wasn't always up to males.
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d3c0y2 posted:The difference is that getting bayonetted comes as a result of warfare and getting raped in your own community is the result of hosed up sexual politics within said society. There was undoubtedly more sexual abuse in the past, just as there was more warfare, but the idea that a "lot of women were getting sexually abused" is as banal and true as "a lot of men were dying in warfare." Things were hosed up for everbody, and it's dumb to portray the past as some rape/sexual abuse hell just to paint the current sexual order in better light.
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joat mon posted:It was a thing I had to do Between this and Huboon Stomp in the Elliot Rodgers thread I'm wondering which Devo song should be adopted as the Goon National Anthem.
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ZergFluid posted:But in general it's males who have to take the initiative. Of course you left out that datum to play "gotcha!" But good for you, you made things easier for him. If only the burden of initiating relationships wasn't always up to males. Make a first step and stop initiating contact to women! Be the change you want to see in the world! 
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ZergFluid posted:But in general it's males who have to take the initiative. Of course you left out that datum to play "gotcha!" In fact, I didn't. I honestly didn't think it was relevant who asked whom out until you mentioned it. quote:But good for you, you made things easier for him. If only the burden of initiating relationships wasn't always up to males. If only. That's one nice thing about being a part of the Sexual Revolution, I guess.
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ZergFluid posted:Sexual capital bullshit. Have you ever considered stopping from obsessing about how hard-done-by you are and writing massive screeds detailing how modern sexual dynamics put men at a disadvantage, and spending a few minutes wondering whether the reason why no-one wants to gently caress you is that you're the kind of person who obsesses about how hard-done-by you are and writes massive screeds detailing how modern sexual dynamics put men at a disadvantage?
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univbee posted:So Zerg, what do you want? Would you be content with moderate success at one-night stands (say once or twice a month)? Also ballpark how old are you? We would legalize prostitution and socially reconstruct society as to make seeking the services of a sex worker to be shameful.
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ZergFluid posted:We would legalize prostitution and socially reconstruct society as to make seeking the services of a sex worker to be shameful. Would your social reconstruction extend to making being a sex worker non-shameful? Also, have you ever considered stopping from obsessing about how hard-done-by you are and writing massive screeds detailing how modern sexual dynamics put men at a disadvantage, and spending a few minutes wondering whether the reason why no-one wants to gently caress you is that you're the kind of person who obsesses about how hard-done-by you are and writes massive screeds detailing how modern sexual dynamics put men at a disadvantage?
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prostitution is legal in the following countries: I suggest all sad puas who are too afraid to get a whore move to these countries and never return
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ZergFluid posted:We would legalize prostitution and socially reconstruct society as to make seeking the services of a sex worker to be shameful. So you're not interested in being in love/having a relationship/companion/life partner/someone to hang out with who loves you for who you are/etc.? All you want is "to cream inside a [duly-financially-compensated] woman" and then be done with icky females until your next financial transaction?
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jimma posted:So you're not interested in being in love/having a relationship/companion/life partner/someone to hang out with who loves you for who you are/etc.? All you want is "to cream inside a [duly-financially-compensated] woman" and then be done with icky females until your next financial transaction? Why shouldn't I have that option in a society where abortion and homosexuality are legal and accepted?
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ZergFluid posted:Why shouldn't I have that option in a society where abortion and homosexuality are legal and accepted? You really are ugly to the core of your brain. Also, have you ever considered stopping from obsessing about how hard-done-by you are and writing massive screeds detailing how modern sexual dynamics put men at a disadvantage, and spending a few minutes wondering whether the reason why no-one wants to gently caress you is that you're the kind of person who obsesses about how hard-done-by you are and writes massive screeds detailing how modern sexual dynamics put men at a disadvantage?
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Actually legit surprised that prostitution is legal in so few jurisdictions. I mean it's happening everywhere regardless, regulation makes it safer for all involved.
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Zzulu posted:prostitution is legal in the following countries: this map is highly misleading, btw
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Nibbles141 posted:Actually legit surprised that prostitution is legal in so few jurisdictions. I mean it's happening everywhere regardless, regulation makes it safer for all involved. I used to work in worker's compensation (in Australia) and there are specific workplace occupational health and safety rules governing brothels over here that are not only incredibly thorough in addressing the particular challenges of the industry, but that also provide sex workers with every form of OH&S protection that any other occupation in the country have. It's super progressive and reading through it is a lesson in regulation being the best form of harm minimalisation.
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selling sex is legal in my country but it is illegal to buy sex
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Zzulu posted:selling sex is legal in my country but it is illegal to buy sex I think this is unironically a good idea.
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Nibbles141 posted:Actually legit surprised that prostitution is legal in so few jurisdictions. I mean it's happening everywhere regardless, regulation makes it safer for all involved. Women don't want the competition. Legalized Pay4Pussy cheapens the sexual value of all the women in the locale in which the prostitutes operate. Women are retailers of sex whereas prostitutes are wholesalers, and naturally the former gets miffed at the later.
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ZergFluid posted:Why shouldn't I have that option in a society where abortion and homosexuality are legal and accepted? Leaving aside for the moment the odd equivalency that you're drawing, my question isn't "Why do you want legalized prostitution? - that's icky"(I'm actually in favor of legalized prostitution), but rather, "Wouldn't you prefer an actual partnership with someone who honestly loves and understands you?"
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ZergFluid posted:Women don't want the competition. Legalized Pay4Pussy cheapens the sexual value of all the women in the locale in which the prostitutes operate. Women are retailers of sex whereas prostitutes are wholesalers, and naturally the former gets miffed at the later. The sexual markets will fall! SELL SELL SELL
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jimma posted:Leaving aside for the moment the odd equivalency that you're drawing, my question isn't "Why do you want legalized prostitution? - that's icky"(I'm actually in favor of legalized prostitution), but rather, "Wouldn't you prefer an actual partnership with someone who honestly loves and understands you?" I suppose that would be ideal, but I also want options as a man.
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quote:Aww they say uhh..
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ZergFluid posted:Women don't want the competition. Legalized Pay4Pussy cheapens the sexual value of all the women in the locale in which the prostitutes operate. Women are retailers of sex whereas prostitutes are wholesalers, and naturally the former gets miffed at the later. Yeah I think it's probably more to do with the regulation of mortality. Also: see gambling.
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ZergFluid posted:I suppose that would be ideal, but I also want options as a man. 
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