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Daniel Bryan posted:How you're either sure they'll never fire you or you're really dumb: Plenty of current people who work there have spoken at length about Benoit on podcasts. Jericho has an entire chapter on the situation and how he feels the way the WWE treated the entire mess, right down to wiping Benoit from the history books, is total bullshit and he's worked there since. I don't think simply mentioning you faced him once is going to have any negative repercussions, especially when I can watch a ton of Benoit matches on the Network right now.
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To me wiping Benoit from WWE history was the right thing to do. Anything else would be to promote a murderer, and gently caress that.
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Gonzo McFee posted:To me wiping Benoit from WWE history was the right thing to do. Anything else would be to promote a murderer, and gently caress that. I don't disagree, but I also get where Jericho is coming from. Benoit was not always a monster, like Vince's line seems to be. Through substance abuse and concussions he had his mind turned to swiss cheese, and the business is partly to blame for it. There's a larger issue there, and one that Vince would rather not acknowledge, and in turn just erased everything. I don't think Benoit was as much of a victim as his wife and son, but not 100% of the blame rests on the man he was at one point before all that poo poo went down either.
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epitasis posted:let's discuss it at legnth Benoit's finisher (the headbutt) was dumb 
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TheJoker138 posted:I don't disagree, but I also get where Jericho is coming from. Benoit was not always a monster, like Vince's line seems to be. Through substance abuse and concussions he had his mind turned to swiss cheese, and the business is partly to blame for it. There's a larger issue there, and one that Vince would rather not acknowledge, and in turn just erased everything. I don't think Benoit was as much of a victim as his wife and son, but not 100% of the blame rests on the man he was at one point before all that poo poo went down either. He had been abusive to his wife for years.
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MassRafTer posted:He had been abusive to his wife four (horsemen) years. 
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I may be misremembering since it's been a long time since I read his book, but I thought Jericho said he understood exactly why they effectively erased Benoit but even though he didn't necessarily agree with it he was fine with it.
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MassRafTer posted:He had been abusive to his wife for years. Hadn't heard that. Makes sense. Benoit was a psychotic shitheel that used to abuse people and it always got explained away by "Lol that's our Benoit."
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Deadpool posted:I may be misremembering since it's been a long time since I read his book, but I thought Jericho said he understood exactly why they effectively erased Benoit but even though he didn't necessarily agree with it he was fine with it. Never read the second book but I remember him speaking about how Benoit almost killed wrestling sooo... no problem with it.
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Deadpool posted:I may be misremembering since it's been a long time since I read his book, but I thought Jericho said he understood exactly why they effectively erased Benoit but even though he didn't necessarily agree with it he was fine with it. He seems pretty conflicted from what I remember. Which is understandable, seeing as he was good friends with him. Must be really hard to process that poo poo.
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epitasis posted:how is this even a joke One of them is Mongo
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HulkaMatt posted:Never read the second book but I remember him speaking about how Benoit almost killed wrestling sooo... no problem with it. TheJoker138 posted:He seems pretty conflicted from what I remember. Which is understandable, seeing as he was good friends with him. Must be really hard to process that poo poo. Yeah, actually went and dug the book out to find what I thought I had read. Here's the quote I kind of remembered. "Not long after that, the WWE erased Chris Benoit from their memory forever, and I don’t blame them - he almost brought the entire company down. But I’ll never be able to erase Chris Benoit from my memory, and his actions still haunt me every single day."
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epitasis posted:how is this even a joke The Croc posted:One of them is Mongo
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I always wonder; How many squats wouldn't have been done if anyone watching Benoit had realised "Wait, that man is mentally ill" rather than thinking that he was just really dedicated. Poor Davari wouldn't have pissed muscle tissue for nothing.
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JRsBBQ posted:Is it too much for NBA's teams to put their hand over their heart during the National Anthem? That is unless their religion forbids it. 
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And so the sympathy built up by being in the hospital melts away.
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I don't really see anything wrong with J.R.'s statement here. Putting your hand over your heart during the anthem is a classy move. I personally don't really care whether they do it or not, but I can at least see how some people could want athletes to be doing the anthem salute all the time.
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JR whyyyyyyy MassRafTer posted:Moose was right. Reggie was after Midge all along! 
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You put your hand over your heart for the pledge not the national anthem jesus christ did you ever go to elementary school JR
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NowonSA posted:I don't really see anything wrong with J.R.'s statement here. Putting your hand over your heart during the anthem is a classy move. I personally don't really care whether they do it or not, but I can at least see how some people could want athletes to be doing the anthem salute all the time. It's the second part, making reference to their religion forbidding it, which is a pretty classless thing to say.
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BlueArmyMan posted:It's the second part, making reference to their religion forbidding it, which is a pretty classless thing to say. Ah, I can see that a bit. J.R.'s said at least 5 things that are more dumber than this though, and I still love him.
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NienNunb posted:I already have no good will for JR because I've listened to several episodes of his podcast. He really does come off like an old man who's angry the world has passed him by in a lot of ways. And he makes the same three loving comments about ways to improve the business every week. They're all "make it like it used to be," by the way.
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that's a dumb tweet because anthem decorum doesn't call for the hand over the heart merely removing one's hatBlueArmyMan posted:It's the second part, making reference to their religion forbidding it, which is a pretty classless thing to say. What are you talking about that's the part where he proves himself considerate??
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epitasis posted:that's a dumb tweet because anthem decorum doesn't call for the hand over the heart merely removing one's hat Spoiler: He's not saying it to be considerate. This one was even better: quote:@thiggerz .. I expressed an opinion re: respecting our national anthem. Take our cash respect our flag. I respect all countries I visit.
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Why do old people care about everything so much. Try not giving a poo poo once in a while, it's great.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Why do old people care about everything so much. Try not giving a poo poo once in a while, it's great. Just wait til you're old and have nothing but time to be angry about everything and anything.
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epitasis posted:What are you talking about that's the part where he proves himself considerate?? JR's referencing this incident, where an NBA player who practices Islam declined to stand for the national anthem, citing personal and religious beliefs: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/14/sports/pro-basketball-abdul-rauf-vows-not-to-back-down-from-nba.html
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BlueArmyMan posted:JR's referencing this incident, where an NBA player who practices Islam declined to stand for the national anthem, citing personal and religious beliefs: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/14/sports/pro-basketball-abdul-rauf-vows-not-to-back-down-from-nba.html jesus christ even in the 90s professional sports were populated by gigantic manchildren.
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