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Lottery of Babylon posted:Grim Dark and Worse Than Cupcakes Why? When I was a dumb kid, I wrote fanfiction, but I understood tone and tried to keep it appropriate to whatever source material I was riffing on. Why not just write a story about a serial killer? I've never watched the show, but I can tell the characters he ramrodded into the story are nothing like they are in the cartoon, and might as well just be stickers slapped on original characters. I'd like to think the author did it to cash in on a fandom, and not because he's so broken he can only view the world through the lens of My Little Pony.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 16:42 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:the Westboro Baptist Church,
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 18:25 |
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Soulcleaver posted:This would have potential to be hilarious if it wasn't a damned troper writing it. Westboro in Equestria is a My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic human-in-Equestria comedic fanfiction written by Carts Before Horses. It stars three members of the controversial Westboro Baptist Church. A magical tornado hits their church in Topeka, Kansas, transporting them to Equestria. While there, they must journey from Ponyville to Canterlot to find Princess Celestia, in the hopes that she can send them home. It is also a parody of The Wizard of Oz, borrowing important plot elements and parodying many of the songs, though not a true crossover. Tropes: Asian and Nerdy: Jack Wu, who is more intelligent and has a lot more common sense than the other two members of the church, is Chinese-American. Bonus points because he wears glasses and is the physically-weakest member of the group until the end. As You Know: A meta example, the author doesn't go into detail describing Ponyville and Twilight's library "because we all watch the show and already know what Ponyville looks like." Butch Lesbian: Fred Phelps incorrectly assumes that Rainbow Dash is one. Checkpoint Charlie: When crossing into the Changeling Kingdom, our heroes comment on how easy it was. However, they quickly find themselves surrounded by changelings. Clothes Make the Superman: Fred Phelps can throw his hat with super strength, but seemingly can't use super-strength without it. Eleventh Hour Superpower: Jack Wu, when he gets super flame powers. Find Out Next Time: Used in the second-to-last chapter. Gay Aesop: Used when the WBC members encounter Lyra and Bon Bon, a lesbian couple. But of course, they don't learn from it. Genre Savvy: When Twilight Sparkle mentions following the cobblestone road, Jack Wu asks if there's a song that goes along with that. Greedy Jew: Fred Phelps resists making an anti-Semitic joke about the rich bankers in Canterlot, because Twilight wouldn't get it. A Hell of a Time: Bon Bon and Lyra have this exchange with Shirley Phelps-Roper: “So what you’re saying is that Hell is filled with ponies like Bon Bon and I, and Heaven is filled with ponies like you?” Lyra asked. “That’s exactly what I’m saying,” replied Shirley. “Well, hey, maybe Hell isn’t such a bad place after all,” said Bon Bon. Heteronormative Crusader: Not surprising, given that this story stars the Westboro Baptist Church. While in Equestria, the Phelpses comment on how they think Rainbow's mane might make her a "human being," and yell at Bon-Bon and Lyra for holding hooves. Irony: The Westboro Baptist Church had just got done protesting tornado victims, but find themselves the victim of a tornado. Jerk with a Heart of Jerk: Fred Phelps. Magic is Evil: Asserted by Fred Phelps upon meeting Twilight, as he asserts that magic is demonic in origin. Make Me Wanna Shout: Shirley Phelps' superpower is that she can shatter glass and eardrums with her screaming. The Man Behind the Curtain: Princess Luna hides behind the Royal Canterlot Curtain and uses the Royal Canterlot Voice when addressing subjects in her throne room, as per tradition. Money Song: The Canterlot elite sing one of these, and it's a parody of "Merry Old Land of OZ." Musical World Hypothesis: Twilight Sparkle explains that songs are simply one of the forms of communication. When the WBC members complain, she retorts Singing is how a lot of us in this world express ourselves. You hold signs and picket, we sing. I know which one I prefer. Nice Hat: Fred Phelps wears his cowboy hat everywhere he goes, and it grants him super strenght. Applejack, who also wears a cowboy hat, gives him a compliment on his good taste. Nice Job Breaking It, Hero: Twilight says this to Rainbow Dash in the song, "Looks Like We Messed Up, Rainbow," after inadvertently bringing Westboro to Equestria. But as Rainbow Dash makes clear, it was mostly Twilight's fault. No Smoking: The Canterlot elite are wearing tophats and monocles, and they're smoking cigars that "they couldn't depict in the show because it's a kids' show." Not in Kansas Anymore: Uttered by Shirley Phelps-Roper to Jack, who takes offense since he's watched the Wizard of Oz and remembers that the line was originally spoken to a dog. Product Placement: Used several times in the story. In the beginning, Fred Phelps mentions going to McDonald's, and throughout the story there are "advertisements" for popular websites such as Google Maps or Facebook. Real Person Fic: Fred Phelps, Shirley Phelps-Roper and Jack Wu all really exist, and so does the Westboro Baptist Church. Shout-Out: Twilight Sparkle comments that she finds it odd that God doesn't speak directly to humans on earth, as Celestia speaks to ponies in Equestria. Jack Wu comments that it reminds him of the C. S. Lewis book, Out of the Silent Planet. Shirley is said to fart in Jack's general direction. Superpower Lottery: The author implies that Twilight Sparkle has won it, saying that "she's like Green Lantern on crack." Take That: Several, including “Oh, right,” said Jack Wu at Fred Phelps' incredibly tenuous "logic." “Yeah, let’s go with that explanation,” said Rainbow Dash to the unicorn’s implausible story that was nevertheless still more plausible than half the explanations for Humans in Equestria that a typical fanfiction would give. That Reminds Me of a Song: Said by Twilight Sparkle right before she bursts into song. Too Dumb to Live: Fred Phelps insists that the three WBC members go back into the church, even though a funnel cloud is forming right over it, because God will protect them. He doesn't. Trailer Park Tornado Magnet: Deliberately invoked when Rainbow Dash mentions that she and the weather team had made a tornado to clear out some foreclosed cloud homes in Cloudsdale. Welcoming Song: Two instances. Pinkie Pie sings her "Welcome to Ponyville" song to the WBC members when they first arive. Just like when Dorothy and her friends entered the Emerald City in the Wizard of Oz, Twilight and the WBC members are greeted with a song when they enter Canterlot. Wreathed in Flames: This is ultimately Jack Wu's superpower. You Just Told Me: "Yeah, I have powers too! And they’re the most dangerous powers of any of us, so you’d better let us all go, or I’ll use them!" said Jack Wu. "Shut up, Jack, you don’t have superpowers," said Fred Phelps. "Yes, but SHE doesn’t know that!" Jack said. "Well, I do now," the Queen snickered.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 18:39 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Product Placement: Used several times in the story. In the beginning, Fred Phelps mentions going to McDonald's, and throughout the story there are "advertisements" for popular websites such as Google Maps or Facebook. jesus christ why
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 19:31 |
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Wait waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait wait. Does everyone's post seriously now display their relationship status or is that just this one moron? MBecause hohoholy poo poo
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 20:19 |
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sweeperbravo posted:Wait waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait wait. Does everyone's post seriously now display their relationship status or is that just this one moron? MBecause hohoholy poo poo Browsing forums, it seems like it's probably some optional profile setting thing.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 20:37 |
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HGH posted:Browsing forums, it seems like it's probably some optional profile setting thing. What a valuable and necessary thing to include
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 20:54 |
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"Pragmatically against brutality" deserves more attention.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 21:34 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:"Pragmatically against brutality" deserves more attention. That came up in the lesswrong thread too, there is this weird subset of nerds that judge all literature by some weird Homo Economicus standards.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 21:37 |
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Ha, the only question I have is which came first: this colossal mountain of reading way too much into a kids' cartoon, or the EQRG group that we repeatedly shitcanned in Mechwarrior Online. You sometimes see dudes with EQRG tags in War Thunder, and they are adamant that their group is not a brony gaming group, just a general gaming group that happens to have a MLP:FiM-related name and is mostly made up of bronies. edit: Now I'm wondering about any overlap between tropers and NationStates.net. double edit: Lottery of Babylon posted:Westboro in Equestria is a My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic are you loving with me Wales Grey fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jun 8, 2014 |
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Swan Oat posted:jesus christ why CWC did the same thing in Sonichu do Autism is the probable cause.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 22:28 |
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Wales Grey posted:double edit: It's real. http://www.fimfiction.net/story/106436/westboro-in-equestria posted:
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 22:35 |
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Swan Oat posted:jesus christ why The assumption that this is a thing that writers do because it happens all the time in their favourite shows and movies, rather than a thing that producers force writers to do and thus it happens all the time in their favourite shows and movies.
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# ? Jun 8, 2014 23:04 |
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Somfin posted:The assumption that this is a thing that writers do because it happens all the time in their favourite shows and movies, rather than a thing that producers force writers to do and thus it happens all the time in their favourite shows and movies. I've said it before but it bears repeating: You have to remember that tropers essentially engage in cargo cult literature, where they can recognise the components of a story, but not how they interlock and work. Which is why you see story descriptions that have the names of tropes liberally peppered through them as if a story is nothing but a collection of clichés put together into a cohesive mass of horribleness. By way of analogy: A troper will spend years learning about what kind of ingredients typically go into cakes, and compile an exhaustive list of every ingredient and what they taste like on their own. Then the troper will present all of the other tropers with a bowl full of whole unshelled eggs, raw flour, oil, milk, and sugar, all in unstirred heaps, and say 'look at my cake'! And everyone will agree that the cake is delicious because it has eggs, flour, oil, milk, and sugar in it. And there's an unopened packet of instant icing on top, and the icing is rape.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 00:28 |
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Improbable Lobster posted:CWC did the same thing in Sonichu do Autism is the probable cause. No. No probably not.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 00:42 |
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By the way, what is this referring to?
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The Vosgian Beast posted:By the way, what is this referring to? Fatalities in the Mortal Combat series.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 00:45 |
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That's sad instead of funny.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 00:53 |
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Swan Oat posted:jesus christ why Hoofstuck is a crossover Fan Webcomic between My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic and Homestuck that was driven by reader suggestions. The first forum thread is here, the second here. Pinkie Pie has invented a new game that can alter the fabric of reality and threatens to destroy all of Equestria. Does nopony but Twilight think this is a bad idea? The comic was eventually cancelled due to its projected size, with the author summarizing the remainder of the story in a forum post.note The summary is about 10,000 words, just to give you an idea. Wales Grey posted:are you loving with me I wouldn't write that many words about a thing that doesn't exist. Unfortunately, the same can't be said of tropers. That pony military thing? It's pretty short by comparison.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 01:06 |
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Did Major Washout ever finish his book?
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 01:27 |
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Anticheese posted:Did Major Washout ever finish his book? Hahahahahahahahahaha
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 01:39 |
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Anticheese posted:Did Major Washout ever finish his book? He didn't quit, but his superiors asked him to stop.
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cptn_dr posted:He didn't quit, but his superiors asked him to stop. If only his commitment to serving our country was as strong as his need to keep writing that thing
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Anticheese posted:Did Major Washout ever finish his book? I'm not sure that he ever even started. All I remember seeing of it were trope descriptions of what Major Tom envisioned his work would be like when it was eventually finished.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 02:58 |
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Finisher1 posted:I'm not sure that he ever even started. All I remember seeing of it were trope descriptions of what Major Tom envisioned his work would be like when it was eventually finished. It's not finished yet, judging from the Trope page for it. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/EndlessConflict posted:
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 03:03 |
I think he posted one excerpt of what he had so far, and it was hilariously bad.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 03:06 |
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Dryerball is still the stupidest name for a planet I've ever heard, and I've been in some pretty bad Sci-Fi RPs, let alone reading a mountain of bad sci-fi as a kid.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 03:09 |
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He's the guy who wrote that one fic with the line "the dickgirls opened fire" right?
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 03:22 |
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Testekill posted:He's the guy who wrote that one fic with the line "the dickgirls opened fire" right? No, that was Enemy Mayan. Major Tom did have a bunch of anime tropes, though, like the katana-wielding aliens discussing honor in a field of cherry blossom trees, or the Marine that looks like a little girl (but totally isn't!!!)
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 03:29 |
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cptn_dr posted:Dryerball is still the stupidest name for a planet I've ever heard, and I've been in some pretty bad Sci-Fi RPs, let alone reading a mountain of bad sci-fi as a kid. Wait, Dryerball was actually in his writing? I thought it was just some stupid name goons made up that was slapped on the work like a joke.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 03:36 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Wait, Dryerball was actually in his writing? I thought it was just some stupid name goons made up that was slapped on the work like a joke. It wasn't literally Dryerball but it was something really, really similar. I want to say "Dryorboll" or something like that?
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 03:55 |
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Breetai posted:I've said it before but it bears repeating: I prefer Project A.F.T.E.R's metaphor about TVTropes: quote:I'd say that these pages are proof that TV Tropes and tropers have a 'Cargo Cult' mindset when it comes to story telling and tropes...Like the island tribes that built imitation airstrips and radio equipment in the wake of WWII, they have taken these tropes, these building blocks that they have no idea how to use or what to do with, and they have put them on a pedestal, not as narrative devices, but as memes they can use to substitute for actual thoughts and statements. Has the Pantheon page been touched here yet?
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Motherly Scootaloo (formerly Pregnant Scootaloo)
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 06:33 |
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Please post all the Major Tom excerpts please they are the funniest TVTropes writing ever. The chapter names were also really good. And yeah it was a couple years ago that I read all his goofy poo poo but I'm pretty sure Dryerball or Dryorball is the real name of a planet. Archives are back up you have no excuse to not post!!!
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Swan Oat posted:Please post all the Major Tom excerpts please they are the funniest TVTropes writing ever. The chapter names were also really good. Below is the chapter with katana-wielding aliens discussing honor in a field of cherry blossom trees, as mentioned by WeaponGradeSadness above. quote:
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 08:43 |
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I think it was Dreyorball. Also there was a character who's basically Hong Meiling from Touhou. Also, like all Troper-fiction, the tiny amount of excerpts were perfect examples of why anime only works as an audiovisual medium, and filling a novel with anime clichés, or trying to write a novel as an anime, is a really terrible idea (especially if you're as hilariously bad at writing as most tropers).
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 08:49 |
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JosephWongKS posted:Below is the chapter with katana-wielding aliens discussing honor in a field of cherry blossom trees, as mentioned by WeaponGradeSadness above. the sad thing is, going off of Hammurabi posted:trying to write a novel as an anime, is a really terrible idea (especially if you're as hilariously bad at writing as most tropers). if he'd just written something like "They sat together, surrounded by the blossoms. A light rain fell." and left it at that, it would have perfectly conveyed the message and image of 'stoic warriors yadda yadda beauty nature yadda yadaa". But tropers ALWAYS think MORE WORDS is BETTER WRITING. fake edit: The words WeaponGradeSadness, put together and capitalized like that, brought flashbacks of how fast eddie's malignant tumor of coding has tropes be written for hotlinking. It even sounds like a trope.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 10:14 |
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Yeah, it was Dreyorball.Major Tom in Writer's Block Daily thread posted:I just thought of a summary of each episode/chapter of my Siege of Dreyorball arc. Later in the thread he posted the opening to chapter 26. quote:Captain Mathias Watkins switched off his radio. “I had Colonel Smith on the line. Friendly forces have made landfall to the southeast and are advancing in every direction. He’s coming in to pick us up out of here. ETA is roughly in about an hour.” Where is this scene taking place? Do these people like each other? Hate each other? Do they have any opinions about what they're telling each other? Do they have any concerns other than their immediate problem? Does anything actually happen in this scene? Shwoo fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Jun 9, 2014 |
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Continuation from the "cherry blossoms" chapter above.quote:
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