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"40mm...Particle bolt" Things like this irk my weapons autism. A "particle bolt" sounds like some sorta of energy bolt. Meanwhile a "40mm" is an explosive round, utilized either as an actual grenade or as simply an explosive round fired from a cannon, notably the bofors. Unless "particle bolt" means "solid round sheathed in plasma" or something scifi, in which case why is it such a large solid round instead of something small like a 3 or 4mm slug? Sorry for the but it just gets me mad when milfic (scifi milfic in particuluar) throws terms around that sound cool but dont make sense used together.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 11:51 |
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Isn't...isn't everything made out of particles?
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 11:57 |
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Keet "I get tired just watching him." —Suezo, on Genki from Monster Rancher Best described as the human equivalent of a parakeet: small, cute, colorful, hyperactive and regularly loud. A hyperactive kid who is also somewhat In Touch with His Feminine Side. The Keet is often a male surrogate for female audiences. Pops up here and there, especially in shojo and shows with Boys Love Genre overtones; if he is the star, he is usually paired off in some form with his polar opposite. This character is born out of an enduring and surprisingly strict design plan for characters in Boys Love Genre manga commonly called the uke. A more manly version is the Boisterous Bruiser, who is often a seme in Boys Love Genre. Often subject to a crossdressing escapade. Keets are often also Genki Guys, as the cute and slightly feminine charm of a keet and the exuberant nature of a genki can go hand in hand quite well, however it's not strictly necessary for a character to be both. That Guy with the Glasses and Blistered Thumbs have their fair share of keets.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 12:04 |
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HapiMerchant posted:"40mm...Particle bolt" It may work if you think of it as the barrel diameter that the big glob of plasma comes out of, though I'm not clued-in enough on militarese to know whether that would get a separate term. Either way, it's unnecessary detail - you could just say something like 'the Kasha raised its massive gun, spitting fat particle bolts into the Terran-occupied building and obscuring it in a billow of smoke' and convey the action and mandatory phallic symbolism just fine.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 12:09 |
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On the subject of Milfic: there's a nice scene in the movie Aliens where one of the marines spends about a minute talking to Ripley about all the cool sci-fi weapons he has. The scene works because the point of the scene isn't "here are all the cool sci-fi weapons he has"; the point is that Ripley is nervous about the mission; the soldier is trying to assuage her fears by bragging about all his firepower; the soldier knows a lot about his weapons; and the soldier thinks his gear makes him the world's biggest badass. What sounds like techsposition isn't about the tech at all, it's about the characters. None of that is ever true in lovely milfic like Endless Conflict. There are always long infodumps about sci-fi weapon specs, but the infodumps are nothing more than that, and the characters are faceless voices in a blank white void. The tech isn't a prop for the story - the tech is the story.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 12:20 |
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JosephWongKS posted:Continuation from the "cherry blossoms" chapter above. Christ, how can you write about war and have it so lifeless? Apparently combat is a load of smooth, disciplined radio chatter followed by manly discussions of honour and sacrifice. I'm sure he knows a ton more about the military than me (just look at all the jargon and callsigns and two-niner), so how the hell does he miss out the smoke and the grit and the pants-making GBS threads terror? He'd make a fantastic drone pilot if he hadn't stepped down in the name of truth, justice and the American way
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 12:36 |
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The thing about Major Tom's story is that, beside being a giant mecha (real robot? I'm not really familiar enough with the genres to differentiate them), it's basically Gundamn fanfiction. I believe the technology featured, for example, is powered by "Minovski" particles, which is obviously completely different from the Minovsky particles from the Universal Century continuity.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 12:40 |
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Strategic Tea posted:Christ, how can you write about war and have it so lifeless? Apparently combat is a load of smooth, disciplined radio chatter followed by manly discussions of honour and sacrifice. I'm sure he knows a ton more about the military than me (just look at all the jargon and callsigns and two-niner), so how the hell does he miss out the smoke and the grit and the pants-making GBS threads terror? My problem other than the utter crap of someone writing this this milfic of my first starship troopers. Has not a clue how radio chatter works(Battlestar Galactica had one of the most accurate representations) from my knowledge the Jargon isn't great its too , its how someone thinks its work, but when listening to chatter its very short and to the point unless their is a gently caress up which is why you need some proper dialogue or someone breaking the very strict codes when in combat (Black Hawk Down is a really good movie with that separation)to make it remotely readable for anyone other than a court of enquiry. This is just a focusing down on a very small fault because looking at it too much hurts my eyes. Of course there is separation such as in units which would be more chatty or internal radios of tanks or aircraft which don't tend to follow this to the same extent as its general communication rather than interface with the larger command. compared with the overall radio network where everything has to quick due to the demands on radio network and jamming. Apologies for the wall of text I find this most annoying.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 13:14 |
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Haha, so he didn't even get that right. I kind of assumed he was a military fetishist and had spent hours memorising tacticool stuff he'd never get to use
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 13:56 |
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He got into a page long argument with an actual US Army officer or something about the use of swords on the battlefield. Civilian Tom seems to think they're the ultimate weapon.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 13:58 |
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Shwoo posted:Isn't Scootaloo one of the characters whose entire plotline is wanting to go through pony puberty? This is correct, which makes that particular choice of character even more -worthy.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 15:48 |
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The conclusion of Chapter Seventeen.quote:
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 16:32 |
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It's like hearing a kid telling you all about his FPS sci-fi game in excruciating detail. Just imagine the whole thing starting with: "What are you two playing, Johnny?" "Sally and I are playing Halo and we did THIS... and then THIS happened and then... and then..." between all the chapters.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 19:07 |
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Some people in this thread have suggested that if you're writing fanfiction that deviates so far from the source material that the only thing recognizable is a name here and there, you might as well write your own totally original story. I'm going to go in the other direction on this and say that if Washout Tom insists on continuing to write the most boring mecha anime ripoff ever, he might as well convert it into straight Gundam fanfiction. At least then he'd have an audience that's not us.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 19:38 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:That Guy with the Glasses and Blistered Thumbs have their fair share of keets. Didn't the last dude commit suicide? I mean, all the "in real life" stuff is weird and creepy, but that seems especially jarring.
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# ? Jun 9, 2014 22:54 |
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kaleidolia posted:Didn't the last dude commit suicide? I mean, all the "in real life" stuff is weird and creepy, but that seems especially jarring. It was probably written before that happened.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 00:53 |
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Major Tom posted:I finished the next chapter, but the following scene is what I am revealing. I've been waiting over a year to get to this point. quote:
Major Tom posted:Try to name all the tropes. I count quite a few in that scene alone.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 01:34 |
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What the hell is it with sword guys and always going on about how awesome their sword is and what its name is and everything? It's also really jarring to see boring as poo poo Oscar mike bravo 'I think this makes me sound authentic' bullshit and everything being referred to by its M-XX designation and full name and vehicle class and then an incredibly boring anime swordfight. God, there's not one interesting thing in any of that drivel, is there?
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 01:56 |
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"Not before I enjoy it more" has to be the dumbest line I've seen so far in this shitpile of a story
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 01:59 |
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FrozenVent posted:He got into a page long argument with an actual US Army officer or something about the use of swords on the battlefield. Civilian Tom seems to think they're the ultimate weapon. Anyone got the pictures of that? It was beautiful.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 02:29 |
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It's funny how much Tropers seem to idolize the Samurai considering how the Japanese rushed to get as many guns as they possibly could as soon as they were introduced, because not being idiots they realized how much of a game changer even lovely matchlock rifles were compared to medieval weaponry.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 02:48 |
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Oda Nobunaga started the unification of Japan by glowing purple and being badass, not with dishonorable poo poo like matchlocks.
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This came up in a Civ LP, but I still don't get why Nobunaga is so often portrayed as Basically Literally Satan.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 03:03 |
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In The Count of Monte Cristo there is a scene wherein two characters who are passing off as a father and son are pretending to be familiar with each other. The dialogue is intentionally written awkwardly, stilted, and completely unnatural and foreced, as they don't actually know each other and are only doing it for the potential of earning money. It is still much more natural than all the bullshit Civilian Tom wrote here.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 03:13 |
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Triskelli posted:This came up in a Civ LP, but I still don't get why Nobunaga is so often portrayed as Basically Literally Satan. It is very common in anime to treat him as a demonic monster for reasons that aren't clear to me.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 03:31 |
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He did a lot of nasty poo poo in his unification of Japan, but back then everyone was kind of a dick so it's probably got something to do with him aspiring to a higher station than he was born to or whatever.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 03:32 |
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Yeah the dude was able to mostly unify Japan on the basis of being the meanest most violent man around in a time of mean and violent men.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 03:43 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:Yeah the dude was able to mostly unify Japan on the basis of being the meanest most violent man around in a time of mean and violent men. Same thing with Genghis Khan, basically.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 03:45 |
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Plus he was against the traditions of the time, which was kind of taboo in a country so hard set in its ways.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 03:54 |
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Any of you read Drifters? That thing by the Hellsing guy that takes every badass from history and dumps them into Middle-Earth? Guns are freaking awesome in Middle-Earth, like the first thing Nobunaga did when he got Billy the Kid's piece was get dwarves to reverse-engineer them. drat, I wish that comic updated more.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 04:10 |
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A lot of the hatred for Nobunaga comes retroactively too, since it helped to justify the rulership of later eras, in particular the restoration of Imperial power after the Boshin war which end centuries of rule under the Shogunate. Nobunaga and his successors are the ones who set up the military feudalism that raised the Samurai to a dominant warrior cast (prior to that it wasn't hereditary). A big part of the Meiji restoration was removing those institutions from society. E: Al of this is sort of tangential to the main discussion we were having, which is why Troper love katanas. The reason is because they have uncritically swallowed what is essentially quasi-mythic propaganda tales used by the imperial government to justify how awesome military dictatorship was. It's the japanese equivalent of believing wholeheartedly in western stories; they take an era of history that was limited in time and space, and also full of terrible poo poo, and turn it into a mythic setting to promote certian values (in the case of westerns, Individualism and American Exceptionalism). The world tropers are pining for never existed, any more than the Leave it to Beaver 50's did. Political Whores fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Annointed posted:Plus he was against the traditions of the time, which was kind of taboo in a country so hard set in its ways. How so? What sort of things did he oppose? Actually kind of curious, I've never heard anything about him being any sort of iconoclast, just generically mean and ambitious.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 04:28 |
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Triskelli posted:This came up in a Civ LP, but I still don't get why Nobunaga is so often portrayed as Basically Literally Satan. Oda Nobunaga was the second son of a military governor. The man basically rose from being the second son of a minor branch of a minor family ruling a minor province for their overlords (the ashikura) to declaring gently caress YOU WAR on all of japan in an attempt to unite it. He was a cruel hard man even for his time, and by all accounts had little use for many of the more idiotic aspects of the samurai, such as the (frankly ridiculous) honor system. Imagine you are a country that absolutely idolizes those of high birth and values honor and adherence to tradition above all else. Then suddenly out of absolutely nowhere some podunk hick starts beating the poo poo out of his betters and going around lopping people head's off and taking their land for no other reason then "I am the one who should rule because i have the ambition to do so." (for that last part, keep in mind Japan, like china, held deeply to the idea of "divine right", that the Emperor ruled because his bloodline was literally descended from the gods) Naturally that's a huge oversimplification, but he spat all over everything the Japanese held dear at the time and largely still do. (Using foreign weapons?? using peasants as a mainstay of your army? Unheard of. Disgraceful.) So he was demonized at the time, and for a long time afterwards. Then during the Meiji period, people started looking back and going "Nobunaga? Totally could have beaten all these foriegners! What a hero! What a guy!" This continued well into the showa period, and hence the image of Oda as an evil satan (but also a complete asskicker) pervaded the Japanese national consicousness. Beyond anime depictions and such, He's also become a sort of idolized figure for the Far-right Japanese nationalists. You know, the ones who think WWII japan was completely innocent and awesome. HapiMerchant fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Punting posted:How so? What sort of things did he oppose? Actually kind of curious, I've never heard anything about him being any sort of iconoclast, just generically mean and ambitious. His dad committed seppuku for Oda's general laziness. This led to many things such as killing a bunch of invading monks who had religious immunity in the country, aiding peasantry, and most notably known for his love of firearms. I'm not completely sure but he also wanted to create a rational society for the public. I'm not the best to explain this, the Civ 5 thread is better at explaining just how little he cares for the cultures of the time. I still don't know how tropers would be against a guy who in our culture would be like the guys who wrote the Declaration of Independence other than "For nippon".
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 04:59 |
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Well, I know that Nobunaga mostly ignored samurai in favor of peasant troops. He managed to beat back several powerful clans by focusing on forming a heavily drilled Ashigaru army and giving them all guns.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 05:02 |
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Crappy fanfiction posted:Mat took off to the right intent on finding his missing comrade, the newest member of Assault Team Bravo, the 22 year old blond haired, blue eyed, small chested Sergeant Jessebelle “Jessie” Marietta Noland.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 05:29 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Well, I know that Nobunaga mostly ignored samurai in favor of peasant troops. He managed to beat back several powerful clans by focusing on forming a heavily drilled Ashigaru army and giving them all guns.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 05:34 |
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Oh come on is this really necessary? It's Troper fiction. It's about as necessary as a lobotomy is in curing a stomach virus.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 05:55 |
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Worth pointing out that murdering your brother like Nobunaga did, while not at all rare among succession-struggle-prone monarchies (hello, Ottomans), is a pretty "villainous" start to one's reign. Also, he did burn down a mountainside filled with Buddhist monasteries because the monks of Mt. Hiei were harboring his political enemies. I don't think that whitewashing the guy is exactly a desirable response to the reaction that he wasn't literally Satan incarnate like his critics paint him to be. The Mt. Hiei thing was considered a warcrime even by the standards of 16th century Japan.
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 05:57 |
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I found this insanity on the Draco in Leather Pants page for Harry Potter:quote:To be fair, while it's true Voldie was never a nice guy the rather heavy-handed way this is shown has lead to some fan revolt—we only ever hear Dumbledore's side of the story. The orphanage matron's complaints in the pensive memory sound eerily similar to the slander Harry receives on Privet drive which opens up an Alternate Character Interpretation of Tom Riddle being a Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds. And then there's Dumbledore's method of dealing with a troubled kleptomaniac orphan with mental/behavioral problems: is to set his things on fire and think that will teach him a lesson. It taught him a lesson all right—that Might Makes Right. And just like with Harry, Dumbledore could have helped Tom but he chose not to. He kept sending Tom back to the muggle orphanage in the middle of the Blitz and then you wonder why the guy is interested in, you know, not dying. I think my favorite part is that line at the end. "He grew up during THE BLITZ, man, it's not his fault he turned into a bloodthirsty, power-hungry, mass-murdering sociopath who was basically the wizard equivalent of Hitler! "
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# ? Jun 10, 2014 06:37 |