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Rhymenoserous posted:Star wars couldn't make it for two reasons. They've definitely done a good job with it once F2P was out with dungeon finder and the server merges done with. SWTOR isn't quite as raid centric as WoW, which is probably where some of the disappointment was as well. Most heavy players (myself included) have multiple alts because of unique storylines and that's where the meat of the game is. The digital expansion wasn't amazing in terms of leveling content, but improved raiding a lot. The current raid tier is really fun. You can conceivably raid with all of your alts without being throttled with grind/timesinks like what most MMOs do.
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I have been blueballed by server disconnects my past 4 attempts on WotW. I am not even kidding, I'll start the adventure (2-3 players disconnect when it first starts but typically come back on after 30 seconds). We'll begin, I'll spend between 10-20 minutes clearing through the adventure. Then I'll get a disconnect: lost connection to world server. I'll log back on in the overworld, no longer in an instance party, with no ability to rejoin it or reconnect. I queue as tank so it's not an issue of waiting for groups (although if this was happening with DPS queues, that'd be something alright). It is absolutely eliminating my desire to play this game. Once is bad luck. For example, the server keeled over during a fantastic guild clear of a dungeon and didn't come back right away. We chatted on voip and everyone generally agreed that despite its faults the game is great. poo poo happens. This is now 5 disconnects over 2 separate evenings of play, that only occur when I'm between 5 to 15 minutes or more into group content with no ability to rejoin or reconnect? I was wondering if maybe I got vote-kicked, but several of the adventures were going really well and everyone was having pretty positive banter, so I'm mystified. I really, really dislike that I can't queue for adventures with a partial group as well. That's beyond frustrating.
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Wildstar will obviously be free to play one day. I mean it's not like they are going to close the server down two years early as some sort of moral protest against the free to play system.
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Tezzeract posted:They've definitely done a good job with it once F2P was out with dungeon finder and the server merges done with. ToR has one of the most horrendously cash-grabby F2P implementations I've ever seen, the only reason people put up with poo poo like "pay $5 to be able to hide your hat" is because of the IP.
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How overcrowded are we in terms of healers in the guild? I`m having fun with my spellslinger but I don`t want to have to fight to get a place in groups. Also, any high level slinger can tell if theres a lot of issues with survivability up ahead? Depending on the circumstances I might just go with the warrior as it is also quite fun (besides heavy armor looks much better than the underwhelming light armor the game has),but on the other hand It just seems to me that tanking is much more simple threat generation spamming and less rewarding.
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Jun 11, 2014 15:22
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WarLocke posted:I feel like if all a person wants to do is 'level quickly' and basically bypass/ignore content they may as well level in PvP queues (or dungeon queues in a game that has them - does WildStar? I haven't looked into this yet). Except that's actually a slower way to level. I top off levels doing that poo poo, but I'd never refer to it as speed leveling.
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Jun 11, 2014 15:34
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Carbine really needs to do something about this poo poo
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WarLocke posted:ToR has one of the most horrendously cash-grabby F2P implementations I've ever seen, the only reason people put up with poo poo like "pay $5 to be able to hide your hat" is because of the IP. Or you could spend like 20k credits(Do two or 3 quests at 55) and buy it off the GTN? Just about everything important(account related stuff, Races/Character slots/Hiding helms etc etc) can be purchased on the GTN(Auction House). The only complete bullshit thing about f2p is the Credit Limit they impose on F2P players and making them have to buy escrow's(you can get on the AH) in order to go above the cap. Cap is like 250k or 350k or something Dexo fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Jun 11, 2014 15:35
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frest posted:
What do you mean you can't? I've done it with some guildies (queued up as tank/healer/dps) and golded (old) WotW just fine? Crimelords is also basically trivial to run atm and I can see it getting buffed. I really wish tempest refuge wouldn't just randomly have spikes when I run it though. It's bizarrely inconsistent but it makes some fights unbearable in the instance. We get crashes while loading into adventures now and then too but they've rarely prevented us from actually running them, so that's kind of weird.
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WarLocke posted:I feel like if all a person wants to do is 'level quickly' and basically bypass/ignore content they may as well level in PvP queues (or dungeon queues in a game that has them - does WildStar? I haven't looked into this yet). Both pvp queues and especially dungeons (yes there is a group finder) are slower than questing 2-4 levels above your level.
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Dexo posted:Or you could spend like 20k credits(Do two or 3 quests at 55) and buy it off the GTN? I kinda like the idea of having F2P tokens for cosmetic poo poo people can buy then toss on the AH for cash. Also I would very much like my next boom box to be an awesome mount or maybe some bits from the raidin costume, devs pls listen.
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Zephyrine posted:Wildstar will obviously be free to play one day.
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Jun 11, 2014 15:42
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Logged in today, got "You must rename your character". I guess "Yiffin" is a bad word?   I'm guessing I got reported by a fragile furry and then some Carbine support rep sitting in her cubicle in a fur suit sympathized, and welp...
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Jun 11, 2014 15:47
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Above Our Own posted:Why do you think this? I think you're wrong. Hell, WoW will be free to play one day. Once your player base shrinks to a smaller amount of more dedicated players it makes more sense to let them spend more than 15 bucks a month on your game and drop the initial sub fee deterrent. I've seen people in GW2 drop hundreds of dollars on gems, and every time swtor comes out with a new random pack of cosmetic items people spend huge sums of money. Even WoW's mount shop is hugely popular and probably makes them crazy amounts of money. In a lot of ways free + cash shop is a much better financial model than sub fees. As for not just adding a cash shop and keeping the fee, nerds get really really mad about microtransactions existing alongside a sub fee, and a sub tends to be a deterrent for casuals, so it usually makes sense for games which are past their prime to make that change.
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Jfizzoid posted:Logged in today, got "You must rename your character". I guess "Yiffin" is a bad word? RP servers tend to have stricter rules for player character names than non-RP servers would. I wouldn't be surprised if there were actually a valid point in the ToS that makes your name a violation of the realm rules. To put it in perspective - I was on Faeblight (the RP server for RIFT) and our guild name at the time Beep Beep Im A Jeep was force-changed because it had a copyright-violating part in its name and one of our members had her name changed from PinkPrincess because you couldn't have nobility/royalty titles in your name. You really shouldn't act surprised or indignant if your name is force-changed on an RP server for a game, especially if you were making that name to make fun of a segment of the population (regardless of how bizarre their preferences are) in the first place. Like, if you made a character called KidDiddler on Evindra? 90% sure that would get its name force-changed. Although, on the other hand, I tried to google for any realm-specific rules for Evindra and didn't find anything on an extremely cursory glance, so maybe a more general ToS term was violated?  .
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Jun 11, 2014 15:49
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Uh oh we have another guild member named Yiffie.
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Collateral Damage posted:Yep I noticed this as well. I think it's a bug related to the Assassin AMP which prevents stealth breaking from damage, so stealth doesn't break until you finish activating an object. I lost a side point from right under my nose in Bloodsworn the other day thanks to the same bug. The stalker didn't become visible until the point turned. I don't know about masks as I haven't tried but you get an error saying you are stealthed when trying to cap a point.
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Is there a semi-official goon hangout on EU, Exile side? I'd like to try them out as well and if there's a guild or something already then I'd rather join that directly.
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I think the medic has the most cohesive class theme and the technomancer vibe is cool. The DPS while leveling seems to completely suck, though. As much as I love the class idea and execution I won't have fun if I'm constantly whittling down enemies while stalkers and spellslingers blow through groups in 3 globals. I'm level 20 now, does medic DPS get better at later levels? Maybe I'm not playing it as well as I could be, do any of you guys feel like you're keeping up with other classes?
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Above Our Own posted:I think the medic has the most cohesive class theme and the technomancer vibe is cool. The DPS while leveling seems to completely suck, though. As much as I love the class idea and execution I won't have fun if I'm constantly whittling down enemies while stalkers and spellslingers blow through groups in 3 globals. As a medic you should be pulling groups of 5+ dudes at all times. Also I took a break from my medic to level a warrior up a bit and they are actually quite fun. Is there some secret way to making you see where you will land with leap or do you just need practice and learn the distance he jumps? Also for people talking about leveling speed, I felt like 25-35 actually went faster than 15-25. The amount of quest you get that actually have good xp rewards as well as objectives that need you to kill lots of mobs sky rocket making your xp per hour a lot higher. BadLlama fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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So when would Quest XP drop off to "don't bother" levels? One level overleveled or two?
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edit: ^ when you're equal levelAbove Our Own posted:I think the medic has the most cohesive class theme and the technomancer vibe is cool. The DPS while leveling seems to completely suck, though. As much as I love the class idea and execution I won't have fun if I'm constantly whittling down enemies while stalkers and spellslingers blow through groups in 3 globals. Once you hit Level 25, things get a lot better. T4 Dev Probes if TTK is ~10 seconds, focus on large packs instead of solo strong mobs. Take Dual Shock at all times, stack Crit so you can run Atomize and Dual Shock simultaneously, you'll never die.
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Above Our Own posted:I think the medic has the most cohesive class theme and the technomancer vibe is cool. The DPS while leveling seems to completely suck, though. As much as I love the class idea and execution I won't have fun if I'm constantly whittling down enemies while stalkers and spellslingers blow through groups in 3 globals. I think there is discussion about this a page or two back. I want to know what Medic healing is like. I was healing on my SS and I'm not a fan of their style of healing. What is the medic style? Melee up-close stuff? Unlucky7 posted:So when would Quest XP drop off to "don't bother" levels? One level overleveled or two? I think if it's one level below what you are you should just drop it. Equal level or above or you'll get stuck getting 0.2% xp per quest.
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PaganGoatPants posted:I think there is discussion about this a page or two back. Someone much earlier in the thread did a fantastic post I can't find on Medic healing in instances, and it basically boils to their short range meaning other players needs to stay in your AoEs often while dodging telegraphs ('T-rex armed healing') and shield heals being their main big niche.
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I see a lot of unused potential with this neighbour system. If someone has their neighbour share set to 25% then they get 75% of the ore if I visit their house and mine while they're away. Which seemed grand to me so I got a bunch of neighbours and figured I could visit their house before going to work. Since I get up for work at 5 in the morning then this would be a good time to earn us all some ores. Except that everyone so far has the share set to 0% so if I mine their ore then they get 100% and I get none. So I have no motivation at all to come visit in the morning. On the other hand if we kept mining each others ores every time they spawned as a way to supplement each others time zones and away time then everyone involved could make quite a bit of gold.
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The Wicked Wall posted:Someone much earlier in the thread did a fantastic post I can't find on Medic healing in instances, and it basically boils to their short range meaning other players needs to stay in your AoEs often while dodging telegraphs ('T-rex armed healing') and shield heals being their main big niche. Yeah this sums it up quite well. If the healer is a medic please don't run around like chickens all over the instance, they quite literally have to chase you around to heal you.
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Zephyrine posted:I see a lot of unused potential with this neighbour system. So tell them that. A lot of them probably don't even know they can adjust the shares.
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BadLlama posted:Yeah this sums it up quite well. If the healer is a medic please don't run around like chickens all over the instance, they quite literally have to chase you around to heal you. This but for all healing classes, You don't need to keep moving in most cases. Just get out of the Telegraph and stand right next to it. If a Telegraph forms on you you don't have to run to the other side of the loving room making me have to both find out where the gently caress you are and run there in order to heal you.
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Zephyrine posted:I see a lot of unused potential with this neighbour system. I do 50/50 split and encourage people to hit my land, mainly because I started with mining then swapped to tree chopping so this is my only free way to get mining stuff. If you are on Evindra just ping Styliekit and I'll neighbor you.
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Zoness posted:What do you mean you can't? I've done it with some guildies (queued up as tank/healer/dps) and golded (old) WotW just fine? Crimelords is also basically trivial to run atm and I can see it getting buffed. I can partial queue to dungeons but whenever I attempt to do so with adventures the button remains greyed out, even when all party members have unlocked it or whatever.
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I just looked at those zone maps and I'm lvl 11 in the 8-9 areas and am having trouble as a spellslinger. I feel like I missed a weapon upgrade at some point along the way as mine is only lvl 5 or something. Is there anywhere in Deradune you can buy weapons or do I need to run to a capital and look at the AH?
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It's not a problem. I'm still wearing level 25 gear that simply has better DPS stats for me than the level 30+ poo poo that's been dropping. The issue you are running into is SS kinda sucks till certain abilities unlock.
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PaganGoatPants posted:I think there is discussion about this a page or two back. It feels like constantly being one actuator short or watching your crisis wave/shield surge cast in seemingly slow motion as the tank's health drops and your blood pressure rises. Disclaimer: This may not be reflective of good/geared medic healers.
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Didn't have time to keep up with the thread lately, is there an Exile EU guild on COntagion? I think I saw someone post that they were planning to make one.
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Minsky posted:It feels like constantly being one actuator short or watching your crisis wave/shield surge cast in seemingly slow motion as the tank's health drops and your blood pressure rises. Tank health is always pretty crazy in most content mostly because Deflect is a major tank stat. Sometimes trash will almost kill a tank in less than a GCD because none of their hits go deflected and sometimes you don't even need to heal the tank for 10+ seconds at a time. I have seen this with both warrior and engineer tanks at over 32-33k hp.
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Virigoth posted:I just looked at those zone maps and I'm lvl 11 in the 8-9 areas and am having trouble as a spellslinger. I feel like I missed a weapon upgrade at some point along the way as mine is only lvl 5 or something. Is there anywhere in Deradune you can buy weapons or do I need to run to a capital and look at the AH? Rep vendor has good weapons. In the village. Should be wrecking mobs 2-3 levels below you on SS.
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WarLocke posted:ToR has one of the most horrendously cash-grabby F2P implementations I've ever seen, the only reason people put up with poo poo like "pay $5 to be able to hide your hat" is because of the IP. It's cosmetic stuff. As long as a F2P Wildstar doesn't sell raid gear (and the 160% XP potions) like Rift does, I think an F2P conversion should be fine.
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Rhymenoserous posted:It's not a problem. I'm still wearing level 25 gear that simply has better DPS stats for me than the level 30+ poo poo that's been dropping. What are those abilities that I'm looking for? I like the class but I feel like I'm wayyy behind the curve on questing or in battlegrounds right now damagewise and it's kind of depressing. Right now I'm playing on a guest pass on a random server that is about to run out, so I'll be re-rolling with the goon saviors when I buy the game but it'd still be good knowledge to know as I think I'll probably roll another SS. I just need to play the warrior class as my last trial a little bit tonight for my guest pass to hit them all up for a few levels.
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I doubt the game will go f2p, have you seen how much CREDD is selling? I've been having this really strange bug and made tickets about it and gotten no response so far. On the one hand its kind of neat, on the other hand it has rendered my costumes almost completely useless. I did the quest with the Strain where it summons your double and after that quest my costume was gone, I was permanently in my default armor except my default armor is dyed as if it were my costume. I can change my default armor and it stays dyed as if it were orange/black like my costume was. Its pretty neat for that, but none of my costumes work or do anything anymore, setting them to a different costume set or the default changes nothing, removing the costumes change nothing. I've also been getting disconnected every 30 minutes to an hour and I sort of wonder if these things are connected somehow.
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