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One thing I don't understand, if the Pentagon had a high-powered mutant in a special metal-free holding cell who supposedly assassinated the President, why was Trask working so hard to convince the world of their existence? When he was meeting with officials trying to convince them of how dangerous mutants are, shouldn't someone have said 'we know, we have one in custody'?
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King of Foolians posted:One thing I don't understand, if the Pentagon had a high-powered mutant in a special metal-free holding cell who supposedly assassinated the President, why was Trask working so hard to convince the world of their existence? When he was meeting with officials trying to convince them of how dangerous mutants are, shouldn't someone have said 'we know, we have one in custody'? He was trying to convince them that mutants were so dangerous they needed to be exterminated. It wasn't a matter of whether they existed.
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Jun 10, 2014 16:49
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I did wonder why Nixon had to have mutants explained to him. Or why the world was astounded by mutants at the Paris conference when the US Army had a dedicated mutant unit in Vietnam.
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Jun 10, 2014 19:45
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Spatula City posted:What, pray tell, is wrong with the sentence other than the deliberate name mangling? I would, but this is now the thread where we talk about falling asleep in the cinema.
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Jun 10, 2014 20:14
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quote:I did wonder why Nixon had to have mutants explained to him. Or why the world was astounded by mutants at the Paris conference when the US Army had a dedicated mutant unit in Vietnam
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Jun 10, 2014 20:59
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Oracle posted:Its not like people not paying attention to current events is a recent thing. People have always been pretty oblivious and stupid. This might be brushed off if we weren't talking about Richard M. Nixon.
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Jun 10, 2014 21:07
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So uhh, Mystique's power is limited to shapeshifting, right? Not stealing other powers? So how is she so instrumental to creating the murder-sentinels?
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Jun 10, 2014 21:52
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AlternateAccount posted:So uhh, Mystique's power is limited to shapeshifting, right? Not stealing other powers? So how is she so instrumental to creating the murder-sentinels? You've thought this through more than the writer.
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Jun 10, 2014 22:04
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AlternateAccount posted:So uhh, Mystique's power is limited to shapeshifting, right? Not stealing other powers? So how is she so instrumental to creating the murder-sentinels? They do not steal powers they just change their properties.
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Jun 10, 2014 22:32
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bobkatt013 posted:They do not steal powers they just change their properties. I dont understand this statement.
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Jun 10, 2014 22:36
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The sentinels fighting Iceman turned to fire instead of taking iceman's powers and turning to ice, though you would guess that turning to iceman's molecular structure would also be effective since iceman shrugs off ice himself. Anyway mystique's power defies scientific explanation as it is so it's all just comic book magic (not to be confused with the in-universe existence of "real" sorcery).
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Jun 10, 2014 22:45
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Yeah but it also looked like they used replicated versions of specific mutant powers, but maybe I was misreading it.
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Jun 10, 2014 22:51
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They also captured Rogue later on. Her power lets them absorb mutant powers, while Mystique's power lets them retain them and shift powers at will. There, give me a writing credit and 6 points on the gross. Universe Master fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Jun 10, 2014 23:45
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Universe Master posted:They also captured Rogue later on. Her power lets them absorb mutant powers, while Mystique's power lets them retain them and shift powers at will. I'll buy this. Mystique confuses me. In the first X-Men she morphs into Wolverine and has his claws and all that, so I don't know why she doesn't just constantly morph into more powerful mutants to wreck house. Mutations are a physical characteristic, after all, just like hair color. Too much thought.
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Jun 11, 2014 03:47
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Honestly Darwin's power(s) would make more sense for the uber-Sentinels. The only link to Mystique's powers seemed to be the whole 'rippling scale' exterior thing. Oh, and the spear-hand thing, I guess. But that's not integration of a power so much as mechanical design so 
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Jun 11, 2014 03:51
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Red Pyramid posted:I'll buy this. She doesn't have his claws though, they're just made of flesh and blood. As referenced by when Wolverine just cuts them the gently caress off.
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Jun 11, 2014 04:31
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Baron Bifford posted:I did wonder why Nixon had to have mutants explained to him. Or why the world was astounded by mutants at the Paris conference when the US Army had a dedicated mutant unit in Vietnam. I don't think they were a special mutant squad. They were people in the army who'd been outed or were known mutants and they got rounded up for Colonel Stryker to experiment on. Red Pyramid posted:I'll buy this. In the comics Mystique can do cool stuff like turn her hands into daggers or grow six arms, but she can't alter her size (so comics Mystique wouldn't have been able to mimic Trask haha).
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Jun 11, 2014 04:45
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Universe Master posted:They also captured Rogue later on. Her power lets them absorb mutant powers, while Mystique's power lets them retain them and shift powers at will. Well, before her scene was cut, Rogue was still alive and free in the future timeline, soooooo...
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Jun 11, 2014 05:45
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Maybe Mystique can copy other mutant's powers but she's just too stupid to try it.
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Jun 11, 2014 05:57
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What I always got with Trask saying he needed Mystique to be able to make power-shifting Sentinels is he required what made her X-Gene do that and be able to translate that biological power to that of a technological kind. You hear all the time of scientists saying they invented velcro because they saw how pollen collects on bees (or however it goes, you get it) and it's the same thing with mutant powers in spirit. It's a stretch, but it's comics so they can get away with stretches like that.
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Jun 11, 2014 06:25
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AlternateAccount posted:Well, before her scene was cut, Rogue was still alive and free in the future timeline, soooooo... The big scene featuring Rogue that was cut from the future timeline was her being rescued by the others from some sort of villainous facility. So you could imagine that her captors were those behind making the enhanced future sentinels if you want.
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Jun 11, 2014 10:46
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I'm catching up on the thread but assuming all those autopsy people stay dead, are they basically bait for a future horsemen Apocalypse movie? Anyone have a list of who bit it? Also, wasn't Frost kind of important to a ton of the more recent marvel plots?
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Jun 11, 2014 17:26
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The actor playing her was awful, so RIP.
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Jun 11, 2014 20:31
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The Horsemen thing is a really good idea. You don't want to go up against roided up undead-ish versions of people like Azazel or Banshee. As long as Angel gets to stay dead.
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Jun 11, 2014 20:42
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OppyDoppyDopp posted:The actor playing her was awful, so RIP. I don't remember her in any of the other movies?
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Jun 11, 2014 21:03
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January jones is a great Betty Francis and that's about it. I don't know who my choice for Emma frost would be, like a blonde Rebecca romijn maybe. Tricia helfer?
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Jun 11, 2014 21:07
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messagemode1 posted:January jones is a great Betty Francis and that's about it. Cersei Lannister.
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Jun 11, 2014 21:09
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Habibi posted:Cersei Lannister. No, Frost needs to be sexy if she's going to saunter about in her underwear.
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Jun 11, 2014 22:56
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Lena Headey already got mis-cast as Sarah Connor. Let's not have her poo poo up Emma Frost too.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:18
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messagemode1 posted:January jones is a great Betty Francis and that's about it. Just dye Megan Fox's hair blonde
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Jun 11, 2014 23:41
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Irish Joe posted:No, Frost needs to be sexy if she's going to saunter about in her underwear. What the gently caress is this poo poo.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:49
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I saw a photoset on Tumblr that made a pretty compelling case for Natalie Dormer as Emma Frost. Ah yes, here it is.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:11
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Lena Headey is super sexy, and she was nearly as good of a Sara Connor as Hamilton, you people are loving insane.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:27
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Stonefish posted:Lena Headey already got mis-cast as Sarah Connor. Let's not have her poo poo up Emma Frost too. Well there's a wrong statement.
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Lena Headey was the only thing worth watching in that godforsaken show.BrianWilly posted:I saw a photoset on Tumblr that made a pretty compelling case for Natalie Dormer as Emma Frost. If the pickings are that slim for that character no wonder they can't find her anything to do. If people want scheming white girls in banded dresses, they should just watch Revenge and be done with it.
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Jun 12, 2014 04:04
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Irish Joe posted:No, Frost needs to be sexy if she's going to saunter about in her underwear. Yes. That sounds good to me.
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TheJoker138 posted:Lena Headey is super sexy, and she was nearly as good of a Sara Connor as Hamilton, you people are loving insane. This man knows what's up.
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Red Pyramid posted:Mystique confuses me. In the first X-Men she morphs into Wolverine and has his claws and all that, so I don't know why she doesn't just constantly morph into more powerful mutants to wreck house. Mutations are a physical characteristic, after all, just like hair color. Too much thought. Wolverine's claws aren't his actual power, it's just part of how he looks, which she can mimic. As evidenced in the same sequence, she can't heal rapidly like him. I'm sure she can simulate the appearance of many powers, but I think it's likely (within the comic-book-movie-universe) those processes are too complex or too small to be completely mimicked.
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Jun 12, 2014 08:39
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Kristofenpheiffer posted:Wolverine's claws aren't his actual power, Actually, they are.
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Mystique can form claws but they're no stronger than ordinary cuticles would be. She could also probably replicate, say, Colossus's skin but it be anywhere near as strong. Stuff like Cyclops's eye beams or Sunspot's flame skin are energy rather than physical features so she wouldn't be able to do that.
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