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My interest would be primarily in what new information PQ has about the Persona universe, worldbuilding which-- when game devs spin-off everything-- starts to become nonsense.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Seriously I know nothing of localization but does it really need that long to translate things? It's not like they have to remove a bunch of cultural references and poo poo, just make Chie do her bland rear end 'oh is this the time' or whatever line again guys! Translation can take a long time, especially if you do more than one pass, and if it's something that's text heavy. Add proofreading, localization, and editing on top of that, and a 5-6 month time frame is really not all that long.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:21
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Seriously I know nothing of localization but does it really need that long to translate things? It's not like they have to remove a bunch of cultural references and poo poo, just make Chie do her bland rear end 'oh is this the time' or whatever line again guys! Well they have to translate all the text, then they have to insert the new script into the game (and they need an English font because all the text will look like this if they use the English letters from the Japanese font), and they need to record all the English voice acting. And after that they need to do QA to make sure inserting the English script didn't break the game and ensure there's nothing like this  So yeah, there's a lot of work that goes into translating a game, even when you don't localize out the chans and kuns and senpais. A few months isn't even a long time.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:22
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I think even with all the time in the world, Natsume would still have some gigantic gently caress ups in a Harvest Moon script.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:27
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DarkHamsterlord posted:Well they have to translate all the text, then they have to insert the new script into the game (and they need an English font because all the text will look like this if they use the English letters from the Japanese font), and they need to record all the English voice acting. And after that they need to do QA to make sure inserting the English script didn't break the game and ensure there's nothing like this People just got too used to the two month turnaround on SMT IV.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:29
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Strange Quark posted:People just got too used to the two month turnaround on SMT IV. Two month you say? 
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Jun 11, 2014 23:30
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Kurtofan posted:Two month you say? I really hope they do the same with persona 5.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:32
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Strange Quark posted:People just got too used to the two month turnaround on SMT IV. Which seems strange due to Fire Emblem Awakening taking a year about to translate. I know they are different companies but it should still be noted that a good translation takes time and the more likely story behind SMT IV is that before releasing the game in Japan they had already started to translate the game for the U.S. Hunt11 fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 11, 2014 |
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Jun 11, 2014 23:41
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AngryRobotsInc posted:I think even with all the time in the world, Natsume would still have some gigantic gently caress ups in a Harvest Moon script. It's not like Atlus does much better. 
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Jun 11, 2014 23:49
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Hunt11 posted:Which seems strange due to Fire Emblem Awakening taking about to translate. I know they are different companies but it should still be noted that a good translation takes time and the more likely story behind SMT IV is that before releasing the game in Japan they had already started to translate the game for the U.S. This is exactly what happened.
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Jun 11, 2014 23:49
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Ibram Gaunt posted:This is exactly what happened. The same can either be said for Ultimax or Persona Q Dehry posted:
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Jun 12, 2014 00:00
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That's for Q, the English version of Ultimax was being made alongside the game like the Arena was and there are videos predating E3 with English dialogue for it.
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Jun 12, 2014 00:33
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DarkHamsterlord posted:Well they have to translate all the text, then they have to insert the new script into the game (and they need an English font because all the text will look like this if they use the English letters from the Japanese font), and they need to record all the English voice acting. And after that they need to do QA to make sure inserting the English script didn't break the game and ensure there's nothing like this gently caress you and your logic and reasonable sense of scale, I'm a big entitled gamer baby and I want literally everything now. But yea, everything you said is a totally valid point, I'm just being taunted by the japanese info and being a big nerd about it.
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Jun 12, 2014 00:45
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Man, there's no way I make it to November without getting somehow spoiled on Q, and it's gonna be even worse with 5 whenever that comes out in Japan.
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Jun 12, 2014 00:47
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MrAristocrates posted:Man, there's no way I make it to November without getting somehow spoiled on Q, and it's gonna be even worse with 5 whenever that comes out in Japan. Gaming site hiatus till then, its the only way.
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Jun 12, 2014 00:57
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The Persona Q plot twist is out there. I've seen a couple different 4chan posters all trying to spoil the game and one sourcing TV Tropes post the same thing.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:22
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I don't even know who half of the characthers are in Persona Q. I should really force myself to play Persona 3 Portable.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:25
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Dehry posted:The Persona Q plot twist is out there. I've seen a couple different 4chan posters all trying to spoil the game and one sourcing TV Tropes post the same thing. Video game nerds are dicks.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:25
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Aaand it looks like the boss is revealed too...
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Jun 12, 2014 01:26
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Oh poo poo there are spoilers up? Does anyone have a link or am I gonna have to search for these myself?
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Jun 12, 2014 01:26
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Yea gently caress it I wanna see a link too. I'll go into blackout mode for 5 (I'll cut a motherfucker who spoils that) but Q, it's chibi Persona fights, I can spoil that and still have a lot of fun with it because my main enjoyment for it is finally having my Kanji/Akihiko
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Jun 12, 2014 01:33
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spoilers corndog girl is kill
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Jun 12, 2014 01:36
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The main ones I have seen: Here's the Big Bad http://i.imgur.com/OOukmUY.jpg "Rei" is Zen's Persona and the real Rei is dead. Dungeon prizes are things of hers(the rabbit, her hair.) http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=14017382290A94492000&page=9#218 appears to be the source This appears to be a Japanese LP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCrqJKZZcPA&list=PLveUBiAwNAeK9itEchIDWsw_lJEECE5-3&index=2
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Jun 12, 2014 01:37
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Man, this thread is making me nervous now that it's spoiler central for a game that's not gonna be playable in my language for a few months yet.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:41
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Ah okay, yeah I think someone predicted that twist about a month ago or something so that's pretty funny. It's pretty dark for what kind of game this is, but hey it's MegaTen at the end of the day. I fully expect Ultimax to end with some revelation that Sho's entire being is connected to the Malevolent Entity and he's had to live every minute in waking hell or something. That last boss looks boring as hell though, jesus.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:43
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So how text heavy is PQ anyways? We talking EO:Untold levels (which is fine) or am I going to have to sit through 3 hours of cutscenes between each stratum?
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Jun 12, 2014 01:43
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Guys just don't go to 4chan or whatever, it's not like game of thrones or even dangan ronpa where people are buying custom titles and banners and changing the titles of forums to shove it in your face. I did end up spoilering myself on some pretty big Persona 4 stuff (like the last boss) though so I am not one to talk. I am more worried about spoiling myself on the music by listening to it too much because it is so catchy and over-listening to it beforehand might ruin its impact in the actual game. I guess for this one I am not really that interested in the plot, more in the Etrian style dungeon crawling gameplay merged with the Persona mechanics, aesthetics, themes and characters. But I will still avoid spoilers.. I don't really care much about the plots of Persona side games/expansions as opposed to the numbered games. Plot wise stuff like FES, Golden and Arena always feels like fanfiction and retcons made up after the fact, somehow even though it is written by the same people. I guess that is why I am a bit puzzled when I see people saying they aren't going to play Persona Q but will just look up information on the plot, because my interest in it is exactly the opposite.
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Excels posted:My interest would be primarily in what new information PQ has about the Persona universe, worldbuilding which-- when game devs spin-off everything-- starts to become nonsense. After The Answer and Arena I don't much care for their world building outside of the main games, PQ just looks like the most fun to play. They're all fan service but DAN goes too far in that direction and I have no interest in fighting games. I went six years without spoiling myself for Persona 4 and drat it I'm not gonna start now with Q.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:55
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I spoiled the poo poo out of P4 for myself so I want to avoid a repeat of that.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:57
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I spoiled P4 so hard for myself and it owned especially when I got to see JYB top my expectations of outdoing Mitsuaki Madono in voicing Adachi.
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Jun 12, 2014 01:58
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projecthalaxy posted:November 25th? That's starting to stretch the definition of "fall '14" guys Coming 4 days after the new Pokemon game is going to really hurt sales.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:16
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The kids that can only afford to buy one game aren't the audience that is looking forward to Q. Parents might buy it for their kids based purely on the art style or something but that isn't who the game is being marketed to. I'm just gonna get both, personally.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:22
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I hate surprises, so I bear the unfortunate curse of needing to spoil myself to plot twists
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Jun 12, 2014 02:31
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Neo_Crimson posted:Coming 4 days after the new Pokemon game is going to really hurt sales. Really because I'm a huge nerd for both and totes ok buying the CE of this and the new Pokemon, I can't imagine there's a huge sales overlap in the games. Like, the kid who's hype for new pokemon isn't going to be begging their parents for demon summoning murder game too. Most of us are in a range where we can buy two DS games and be ok.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:33
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I think there's a huge overlap in the manchild demographic, but that audience would just buy both of them.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:41
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Most of us are in a range where we can buy two DS games and be ok. MrAristocrates posted:I think there's a huge overlap in the manchild demographic, but that audience would just buy both of them.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:43
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If the Ruby and Sapphire remakes are like any of the others I have played, I'll be done in 20 hours and be ready for Persona by then.
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Jun 12, 2014 02:43
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Dehry posted:The main ones I have seen: Laaaaaaame.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Laaaaaaame. The OP and sountrack make a lot more sense afterwards.We see the dungeon rewards, which is Rei's stuff right after they introduce the P3 and P4 characters. Since the big bad seems to be a Time God, the clock theme makes sense. All the happy songs about being together are Zen rejecting the truth.(for the love of god if you hate spoilers don't look at this)
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