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Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.

JohnClark posted:

I admire his bold admission that he doesn't give a poo poo about the lives of anyone who isn't an American, but as for the rest, does anyone who's more plugged into the details of the Benghazi incident have a succinct refutation?

Mockery and laughing until you can't breathe anymore?

# ? Jun 12, 2014 00:21

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Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/louie-gohmert-tells-congress-the-good-news-that-non-christians-are-going-to-hell/
wow, this is pretty messed up even for gohmert.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 00:22

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Thank god we're spending money having Louie Gohmert angrily educate pastors on how to get to heaven.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 00:25

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.

pengun101 posted:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/louie-gohmert-tells-congress-the-good-news-that-non-christians-are-going-to-hell/
wow, this is pretty messed up even for gohmert.

I...I hate my state. :cripes:

# ? Jun 12, 2014 00:36

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Thank god we're spending money having Louie Gohmert angrily educate pastors on how to get to heaven.

yeah, i like that the pastor gives a well thought out answer and gohmert just gurgles out a response about how he isnt a real christian.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 00:43

Berke Negri: Feb 15, 2012; Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao

JohnClark posted:

Bill Whittle, noted smug rear end in a top hat, is back with another insightful commentary, this time about BENGHAZI!!!!!!

I admire his bold admission that he doesn't give a poo poo about the lives of anyone who isn't an American, but as for the rest, does anyone who's more plugged into the details of the Benghazi incident have a succinct refutation?

Noxon wasn't to be impeached 'for lying'. That spinning of history didn't work with Clinton but I guess they'll never learn.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 00:45

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

pengun101 posted:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/louie-gohmert-tells-congress-the-good-news-that-non-christians-are-going-to-hell/
wow, this is pretty messed up even for gohmert.

I love when pranksters sneak into the House of Representatives and pretend to be congressmen. Wait, he's a real congressman?

# ? Jun 12, 2014 00:47

Die Sexmonster!: Nov 30, 2005

pengun101 posted:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/louie-gohmert-tells-congress-the-good-news-that-non-christians-are-going-to-hell/
wow, this is pretty messed up even for gohmert.

Good news for the rest of us: there's no heaven, and even if it did exist, Gohmert's ignorant, hateful self would never make it in.

I imagine a group of right wingers sitting outside the gates getting chastised for cutting off food and help from the poor while sending their kids out to murder god's other creations.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 01:05

BiggerBoat: Sep 26, 2007; Don't you tell me my business again.

Sir Tonk posted:

If only you could shoot cigarettes at people...

Just exhale really hard outside of a restaurant (or school).

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

Well, Diane Sawyer destroyed Hillary on it, according to Erik Wemple: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/06/10/abc-newss-diane-sawyer-destroys-hillary-rodham-clinton-on-benghazi/.

I saw this and wouldn't characterize it that way at all. If anything, it just reminded me that the idea of a "liberal media" is bullshit because Sawyer really went after her.

Sir Tonk posted:

Lowtax interview never aired

Anywhere to see it? Why did they single out Richard to talk about loving Slenderman anyway? What does SA have to with it?

# ? Jun 12, 2014 01:11

Mc Do Well: Aug 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

BiggerBoat posted:

Anywhere to see it? Why did they single out Richard to talk about loving Slenderman anyway? What does SA have to with it?

The meme started with a photoshop/writing contest on the forums.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 01:14

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

BiggerBoat posted:

Anywhere to see it? Why did they single out Richard to talk about loving Slenderman anyway? What does SA have to with it?

Slenderman started on GBS.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 01:14

Star Man: Jun 1, 2008; There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

BiggerBoat posted:

Anywhere to see it? Why did they single out Richard to talk about loving Slenderman anyway? What does SA have to with it?

Everything you need to know.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 01:15

Alkydere: Jun 7, 2010; Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.

BiggerBoat posted:

Anywhere to see it? Why did they single out Richard to talk about loving Slenderman anyway? What does SA have to with it?

No clue, I really want to see it because I hear he gave the FOX anchors the respect they deserved (something about constantly making fart noises at them).

As for the Slenderman thing, the reason they singled out Lowtax was because it was originally an SA meme that was created on one of the boards. As if Lowtax has anything to with anything that happens on SA besides making sure the site runs.

E:f,b.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 01:15

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

Spacedad posted:

He also does quite a bit of white supremacist code-cracking in this short vid for us - such as the fact that among these groups, paranoia about 'federal government' is really just deliberately coded racist paranoia about Jews.

Is it really that coded though? The Turner Diaries spelled it out pretty explicitly, and almost all the angrier, more conspiracy-minded and paranoid stuff from the right wing largely follows the same script, except leaving off the Jew part.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 02:02

Azuth0667: Sep 20, 2011; By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Alkydere posted:

No clue, I really want to see it because I hear he gave the FOX anchors the respect they deserved (something about constantly making fart noises at them).

As for the Slenderman thing, the reason they singled out Lowtax was because it was originally an SA meme that was created on one of the boards. As if Lowtax has anything to with anything that happens on SA besides making sure the site runs.

E:f,b.

Hahahahahahahahaha I have to see it now.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 03:10

kik2dagroin: Mar 23, 2007; Use the anger. Use it.

I wasn't able to immerse myself in the sludge that is a daily Limbaugh broadcast so I am just going on the transcripts and the bits I caught. He was elated at the Cantor victory though, and raged against those IMMIGRANTS :byodood:

being let into our army bases whereby they will steal more of your tax dollars

quote:

RUSH: Here are the six points that Dave Brat ran on. By the way, Cantor raised $5.4 million. This guy had $200,000 and spent about half of it. He had a staff of two people, and of course Cantor had, what, 23, a staff of 23. I mean, it was full bore what you would expect. I mean, there's a lot... (interruption) Well, you could say David-Goliath. I mean, that might be an analogy. It would be. Look, I can't really add to much of what I said in the first hour, and I said that so well, why even try to say it again.

But this is all bigger than Cantor, and it's bigger than one issue, immigration reform. This disconnect is major and it is growing. But I think one of the interesting observations to make is here you've got a guy, this election was historic. This is the first time a majority leader of a party has lost a primary election, the first time. This is not insignificant. And David Brat is not a wacko. He's not a kook. He's an economics professor. He's an economist. He's an American. He's a real guy.

Here are the six points that he ran on. He posted these six points on his website. He mentioned them in his ads, and there weren't very many ads 'cause a hundred grand doesn't buy you a whole lot of ads. And Cantor did the typical establishment thing. He's running negative ads and trying to beat this guy to smithereens and making fun of him, his inexperience, doesn't know the ways of Washington. He called him a liberal. All backfired.

Brat posted these six points.

"That the free enterprise system is the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice,

"That all individuals are entitled to equal rights, justice, and opportunities and should assume their responsibilities as citizens in a free society,

"That fiscal responsibility and budgetary restraints must be exercised at all levels of government,

"That the Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations,

"That peace is best preserved through a strong national defense,

"That faith in God, as recognized by our Founding Fathers is essential to the moral fiber of the Nation."

It's clear he's a lunatic, right? Let me explain something and try to put this in some sort of context. When I was growing up -- and this is not old fuddy-duddy stuff. Actually, it's sort of a historical context here that will illustrate just how dramatically things have changed. If somebody even 30 years ago ran for office on this platform, you know what they would have said? "Okay, big deal. Everybody' for that. What are you gonna do about X?"

My point is that these six points that he's posted on his website as his manifesto have become so unusual that they stand out. Thirty years ago it was just assumed that everybody seeking political office believed this. This would not have distinguished anybody. Maybe you'd have to go 40 years ago. I'm not making this up, and I'm not kidding. This would not distinguish anybody not that long ago, because everybody that sought office was assumed to think these things.

Today he posts these six things and they are unusual. They are radical. That's how far off the track this country has gotten. Let me read these again, and again, keep in mind, nobody's embracing this. Nobody's congratulating him. Nobody's saying, "Yeah, you know what? That's the ticket." Nobody is saying, "Yes, if we just get back to that." Just like the Republican Party is really making no effort to embrace what Scott Walker has done and is doing in Wisconsin, which is another blueprint. That continues to befuddle me, but it's happening.

"Free enterprise system, the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice." That's controversial today. Not only is that controversial. More and more elected officials don't believe it. They think socialism and Big Government, the benevolence of Big Government, is the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice. The free enterprise system, try this. If you're a college student write a term paper on that and see what you get.

"All individuals are entitled to equal rights, justice, and opportunities." Well, that's okay, but the controversy comes next. "And should assume their responsibilities as citizens in a free society." "What right do you have saying what somebody should do? Easy for you to say, assume your responsibilities. You have money. Easy for you to say. You have an education. But what about the single mother, and what about --" whatever concoction the left wants to come up with.

All individuals, yep, are entitled to equal rights, yep, and justice, yep, and opportunities, as long as they come from the Democrat Party. But if, it is said, that you must exercise your own responsibility as a citizen toward a free society, that today has become controversial. Radical.

Dave Brat says fiscal responsibility and budgetary restraints must be exercised at all levels of government. That is considered so trite and so ignorant and so rose-colored glasses and so absent any awareness of the way things really are. That's just neophyte stuff. This just proves he doesn't know what he's talking about. Fiscal responsibility, budgetary restraints, he just doesn't know how Washington works. He'll learn, he'll learn.

The next one. "That the Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations." Ah, ah, ah, ah. Today the Constitution is the problem, precisely because it limits the government. The biggest obstacle Barack Obama has is not the Republican Party. It isn't talk radio. It isn't anything other than the Constitution. That's the biggest obstacle in his way. And everything he can do to get around it, he's doing. And there's no push-back.

I talked to Andy McCarthy after the program yesterday for the interview in the next Limbaugh Letter about his book on impeachment. It's so perfectly timed. It could not have come out at a better time. It is so well assembled, so well crafted, Andy McCarthy's book on impeachment. He makes the point that, hey, the legalities are all there. If you get this to a court of law, which in the constitutional sense is the Senate, just in strict, objective, legal terms, it's a slam dunk.

The problem is that impeachment makes the Senate the jury. So there's no way. (interruption) No, you cannot peremptory challenge, get rid of certain senators from the jury. They are the jury. And Andy makes the point that the American people actually need to be the jury. Until the American people are demanding it in a political way, nothing is gonna happen. But the legal case is clear. Obama is clearly impeachable. There have been wanton high crimes and misdemeanors, violations of the Constitution. They're all over the place, precisely because the Constitution is his biggest obstacle.

Dave Brat says, "The Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations." Every one of them swears to do that when they take their oath of office. "Peace is best preserved through a strong national defense." Oh, no, no, no, no. That's that Reagan crap again. There we go. And the era of Reagan is over. That's silly. Peace is best preserved through a strong national defense? No. Doctors, nurses, clean water, Hillary Clinton, the State Department, that's how you preserve the peace. Negotiating with the enemy. Appeasing the enemy. Apologizing for America. Accepting blame for what's wrong in the world. That's how you get peace and preserve it today.

"That faith in God, as recognized by our Founding Fathers is essential to the moral fiber --" Oh man, this could get him seriously threatened. That is exclusionary language, that's discriminatorily language, that's insulting language, that's zealotry, bigotry. Whose God? The Founding Fathers are a bunch of racist themselves, slave owners. The Founding Fathers, original 1%. Founding Fathers are unjust and immoral. What God? Moral fiber, what gives you the right to determine the morality of this country? Who are you, Brat? What do you mean, moral fiber of the nation? What right do you have to say what morality is? Because morality today is defined by individual choice.

I'm telling you, folks, this six-item list, 30 years ago would have been met with, "Yeah, fine, big deal. Now, what are you gonna do when you get elected?" People would have demanded specifics. Today these six things result in a landslide election victory and have people standing up and cheering. And the fact that the seat of our government finds these six things threatening is all you need to know about why Eric Cantor lost.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/11/dave_brat_s_controversial_platform
Those 6 points look like any generic politicians list of things, honestly. Limbaugh's spin on them, of course, harkens them back to the glorious days of the 1980s when Saint Ronaldus Magnus was in office making manly men out of everyone as he totally didn't negotiate with terrorists or run up the deficit.

quote:

RUSH: I'm gonna get to your phone calls pretty quickly here, folks, but I just want to remind you of something. Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center sent Eric Cantor a letter this past spring. Bozell was very alarmed over what he had learned Eric Cantor intended to do. So he sent him a letter warning him that he might not want to go through with this and it could be disastrous.

Here's how the letter begins. "Dear Majority Leader Cantor: Conservative leaders were stunned to learn that you will be headlining a conference in Florida this weekend that is, purely and simply, a direct attack on Tea Party conservatives. Worse still, this event is sponsored in part by ultra-liberal financier/activist George Soros and organized labor -- both of which have openly, repeatedly -- and often viciously -- waged war on conservatives and Republicans for years."

You don't think people that live in Virginia 7 knew things like this? Cantor showing up at an anti-Tea Party rally? Bad enough that, but that it was sponsored by George Soros? I still think Chris Christie's political fortunes were sealed with that arm-in-arm embrace photo with Barack Obama after Hurricane Sandy, and I think a picture of Eric Cantor being embraced by Obama walking into some room in the White House to talk about immigration didn't help, either.

Optics matter. The people that vote for Eric Cantor want him to stop, in a political sense. They want him to defeat Barack Obama. Otherwise they would vote Democrat. They're voting Republican because they oppose Obama. They're not voting for Cantor to work with Obama. Otherwise they'd just elect all Democrats everywhere. This is the stupidest, silliest notion the Republicans have bought into. It's a toss-up between the only people that matter in elections are moderates, independents, that's a big trick they've fallen for, and this idea that their own voters are electing them to cross the aisle and compromise and work with and help the Democrats. And whatever you do, don't be confrontational.

It's asinine. And I ask myself, do the Republicans really believe that? They may be that far gone. They may be that shell-shocked over what's happened to them. A lifetime of being destroyed by the media day in and day out, lifetime racism, sexist, bigot, homophobe, creep, mean-spirited, extremist, whatever they've been called every day. Maybe they don't, I don't know. Maybe it's worked on 'em.

However, what we're told as Republican voters, what we're supposed to understand, is that the American people just want the two parties to work together. If that were the case the American people would elect everybody from one party. It's absurd. It's silly. It defies common sense and it insults our intelligence, which may be at the top of the list of the problems.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/11/if_voters_want_everyone_to_work_together_why_do_we_have_two_parties
Another case of being so close to getting it, but really Limbaugh knows where all his money comes from so glosses over that little bit.

quote:

RUSH: Snerdley said during the break, "So you're an anti-government guy now?" No, no, no, no. Don't misunderstand me. Everybody knows what I mean. I'm not an anti-government revolutionary, this kind of crackpot that they're trying to pigeonhole everybody into. Here's my point. And, by the way, folks, when it comes to the Cantor election, I'm not gonna sit here and arrogantly tell you that I know why it happened.

Like everybody else, I have some pretty good educated guesses. But I'll tell you what I do know. I do know that congressman Cantor had ceased to be perceived as having his own district in mind as he did things. He clearly had become an agent of the inside-the-Beltway establishment, and I'm telling you: The divide, the gap, the distance between the elite establishment and average Americans has never been greater.

And Congressman Cantor was seen as part of that very small yet powerful group of elites in the establishment to whom what happens in the rest of the country is not even known, nor is there much concern for it. You know, this border business. As I say, if they were serious about securing the border, if they really thought that that's all they had to do to get support for amnesty, then they'd be out there doing it.

They'd be stopping these kids, however this is happening. But, no! We're letting 'em in, we're depositing them in military bases, in bus stations. The next thing to come is their parents. People can figure this out. I think it's no more complicated than this: People have less and less respect for and use for Washington, the whole thing. Republicans, Democrats, the administration, the administrative state, the regulatory state, the bureaucracy, the FDA, the IRS, all of this.

People are fed up. They're fed up with lobbyists. They're fed up with the Chamber of Commerce. They're fed up with all these media pundit celebrities who also don't know what they're talking about, who have no idea what life is really like for most people in this country and don't seem to really care. That's what people are fed up with.

And if Eric Cantor was perceived as being part of that, that alone would suffice to explain his defeat, without getting into specific issue analysis, such as immigration reform. What is the Tea Party? What is it? I had a long explanation about what the Tea Party is prior to my leaving on vacation. Grab sound bite one. I want to play a brief excerpt. This is May 28th on this program, and this does not actually get to the meat of how I define the Tea Party, but it's like take me there. Listen to this.

RUSH ARCHIVE: The Drive-Bys, the Democrat Party, the Republican establishment salivating, excited and happy over their belief that the Tea Party is no more. The Tea Party is gone. The Tea Party has been vanquished, and what they really mean by that is that they think they've finally ended the day where conservative Republicans/Tea Party nominate wackos in primaries who will then go on to lose. ... The Tea Party isn't dead. It's nothing more than a fervent desire on the part of the Washington establishment in both parties.

The Tea Party is never going to die. The Tea Party's made up of average, ordinary Americans who are all of a sudden becoming activist because of a combination of they are outraged, insulted, and frightened by what has become of Washington. It's out of control. The spending, amnesty, everything being contemplated is simply antithetical to the founding of this country. ... They're trying to stereotype who the Tea Party is, and they will fail at that because they're just patriots. They're just people who want to save the country from the direction that it's going. And not even for themselves, but for their children and grandchildren.

RUSH: But here's another thing. It's called the Tea Party, but there isn't any party. There is no convention. There is no slate of candidates. Washington persists in looking at the Tea Party through the prism of how they view and define politics, and that's why they don't understand it. The Tea Party is made up of people that used to be called citizens. They were standard, ordinary, every day people.

They were the voters.

They were who people Washington used to really care about.

The Tea Party is the people in the Greatest Generation who won World War II. The Tea Party is just average, ordinary Americans. They love God, love the country, love its founding, and believe in a moral code. They don't threaten anybody. They have been abused, impugned, lied about. They're called racist, sexist, bigot, homophobes. They're the furthest thing in the world from any of that.

They're just people, and they live their lives as responsibly as they can. They do everything they can to follow the rules. Nobody's perfect. They see the country careening out of control. So they became activists for the first time in their lives, political activists by showing up at Town Hall meetings in 2010. The fact that the Washington establishment is frightened of them, the fact that the Washington establishment makes no effort to embrace the Tea Party?

It's just the people who make the country work is all it is, and yet Washington is threatened by average citizens. They're threatened. They're scared to death of them. They're angry at them. They despise the Tea Party. The Tea Party is just your mom and dad. It's your grandparents. It's the guy at the ice cream stand, the guy that drove the ice cream truck in your neighborhood growing up.

It's just the most invisible people you'd ever see.

They're just the people who make the country work, and they're scared and frightened 'cause they don't recognize their government. They don't see their government representing them. They see their government governing against their will, and they don't understand it, and they don't really know how to do anything about it other than organize and show up on Election Day and maybe raise money for candidates that they want to see elected.

The Washington establishment sic'd the IRS on the Tea Party! This is how out of touch Washington is. The Washington establishment sick'd the IRS on the Tea Party, and the Republicans of the establishment have done very little to defend people who have been set upon by the IRS for nothing more than wanting to organize politically. It's not just immigration reform. It's not just the Bergdahl prisoner swap.

It's everything, combined with the arrogance, the snootiness, and the condescension with which establishment people talk about, deal with, and talk to the people of this country. And it's everything. It's the Republicans, it's Democrats, it's the Regime. It's the administrative state, the regulatory state. It's all over control. The EPA, with nobody objecting, is going to mandate a 30% reduction in carbon output?

That will kill things. It will destroy many people. It will impoverish people. It will literally impoverish people with their utility bills alone. But forget that. They don't have the authority to do it. It's always been that radicals want to do things like this, but they used to be reasonable, responsible, dependable people who'd stand up and represent you and stop it or try to. That's what's missing.

The Tea Party exists because nobody can see any effort to stop destructive direction the country seems to be taking. Lobbyists, Chamber of Commerce, media pundit celebrities. Same faces, same voices thrown in people's faces every day on all the cable networks. The formula is the same, the interviews are the same, the guests are the same, the hosts are the same.

And the results are the same. It's all become predictable, and more and more people are becoming insulted by it daily and see through it. But this gap or divide or whatever... You may have a better word for it than I do, but I think it is epitomized by the fact that the Tea Party is not really a party; it's just people. It's just average, ordinary Americans.

In my little definition, the people, the invisible people who make this country work. It isn't Hillary Clinton who makes this country work. It isn't John Kerry. It isn't Barack Obama. It isn't Eric Cantor. It isn't John Boehner. It isn't Mitch McConnell. Those people are getting in the way of the country working, or they are perceived to be getting in the way. People are pulling their hair out. They can't believe that there is this innate inability or purposeful, whichever it is, distortion of who these people are. You'll note that these illegal immigrant children, they're not being dumped in the neighborhoods where the establishment lives.

None of what the establishment is doing is happening to them, or where they live. The IRS is not being sicked on them. They are always gonna find a way to pay their utility bills, or it won't matter to them what their utility bills are. But I've never seen this government so removed from mainstream American life as it is today, and the Cantor election, just a microscopic -- well, maybe not microscopic, but it's a small, little illustration. And the people inside the Beltway, the establishment, they're not scared. Do not make the mistake of thinking they're scared. They're mad.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/06/11/the_people_have_no_use_for_washington
Limbaugh saying he isn't anti-government has just that thin veneer of truth where he could slither out of supporting the statement He is for smaller government. I would also say he isn't wrong about people being fed up with the dysfunctionality of the government. I personally am fed up with just how utter poo poo it is in representing... anyone really. Our political institutions really need a retooling for the 21st century!

# ? Jun 12, 2014 04:29

Ivan Shitskin: Nov 29, 2002

I was on a long road trip today and decided to listen in on Mark Levin for a bit. He was having full on master shake fits, which was amusing enough, but I loved how he was trying to frame everything. Iraq is rapidly falling to the terrorists, Afghanistan is next, then Syria until, along with Iran and Turkey for some reason, we have a giant terrorist empire in the Middle East on Obama's watch. Meanwhile Obama releases five "high level terrorist generals" all of them "genocidal maniacs who are planning a new 9/11". Then we have Russia and China rising up unopposed while hordes of dirty third-world savages flood across the Mexican border on a quest to tear the country apart. He was tying all of this together into one big apocalyptic narrative.

It reminded me of that propaganda clip from the movie Children of Men, with it portraying the entire world collapsing into chaos and anarchy while Britain soldiers on by itself.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 05:19

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

pengun101 posted:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/louie-gohmert-tells-congress-the-good-news-that-non-christians-are-going-to-hell/
wow, this is pretty messed up even for gohmert.

I actually believe that he may have been sane at one point but is rapidly descending into total lunacy.

comes along bort posted:

Is it really that coded though? The Turner Diaries spelled it out pretty explicitly, and almost all the angrier, more conspiracy-minded and paranoid stuff from the right wing largely follows the same script, except leaving off the Jew part.

Yeah, but most people aren't privy to it, and take the anti federal government stuff at libertarian face value - when really it's far far far more sinister and racist in its genocidal intent. I actually had also forgotten about that fact until he pointed it out too. I already knew that 'international money' is racist code for Jews too.

That's the thing about all this - active bigots will often try to cloak their bullshit in legit-sounding political positions, or piggyback on other topics with their chosen vulnerable scapegoat. I.E. falsely blaming the fact that you don't have a job or whatever on the Jews, your failed marriage on the gays or feminists, your lack of opportunity on the 'lazy mexicans', etc.

On that note, it's sad how often America needs to be tutored in why hate speech laws exist in other free countries.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jun 12, 2014

# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:37

beatlegs: Mar 11, 2001

Spacedad posted:

I actually believe that he may have been sane and one point but is rapidly descending into total lunacy.

He has no reason to believe otherwise. Big important American news networks invite him on to do interviews all the time. Would they do that if he was a lunatic? Of course not.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 06:56

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

So some racist has drawn some conclusions about why people could possibly be put off by her charming personality.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/10/texas-official-defends-recorded-racist-remarks-get-those-blacks-off-the-school-board/

quote:

Texas official defends recorded racist remarks: �Get those blacks off the school board�

A Texas city council member defended racist comments she made in a private conversation that was recorded.

Connie Trube, a two-term La Marque City Council member, made the comments while discussing the financial and academic troubles in the La Marque Independent School District with the husband of a political adversary, reported KPRC-TV.

�It�s not going to get any better until you get those blacks off the school board,� Trube says on the recording. �She really turned black. She got on the school board with the rest of the blacks and they all just ganged up and that�s why the school system has gone to hell.�

City officials have launched an investigation of the remarks, and Trube has so far resisted calls by residents and other elected officials for her resignation.

�What is on the tape is nothing more than me stating my honest opinion, and I don�t back down from that,� Trube said. �I never denied what was on the tape.�

Trube has been formally censured by the City Council, which has also approved city funding of an investigation by an outside law firm.

�Racism will not be tolerated on any level in the city of La Marque,� said Mayor Bobby Hocking.

The investigation should be completed by June 30, Hocking said, and the findings would be turned over to the U.S. Department of Justice.

But some residents attended Monday�s City Council meeting to voice their disapproval of spending tax money to investigate racism claims.

I have zero respect for anyone who stands by a terrible (and very incorrect) opinion 'because it's my opinion.' There's is no virtue or honor in that. Your lovely brainfarts are not unique and special flowers.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jun 12, 2014

# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:03

ReidRansom: Oct 25, 2004

Spacedad posted:

So some racist has drawn some conclusions about why people could possibly be put off by her charming personality.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/10/texas-official-defends-recorded-racist-remarks-get-those-blacks-off-the-school-board/

I have zero respect for anyone who stands by a terrible (and very incorrect) opinion 'because it's my opinion.' There's is no virtue or honor in that. Your lovely brainfarts are not unique and special flowers.

That's not terribly surprising. It's been a long time since I've been down that way, but I seem to remember that area (LaMarque, Santa Fe) being loaded with racists when friends and I used to pass through on the way to Galveston back in high school. Don't remember any specific event, but the notion stuck.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:34

Zachack: Jun 1, 2000

Maybe she is referring to the local and confusingly named white supremacist gang The Blacks.

Now it is the mayor who is the racist.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:36

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Also, here's a smug piece of poo poo who wants to be able to legally murder me: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/ok-gop-candidate-let-cities-decide-whether-gays-should-be-stoned-to-death/

quote:

OK GOP candidate: Let cities decide whether gays should be stoned to death

A magazine editor in Oklahoma was putting together candidate information for a feature when a friend alerted him to online comments posted last year by a candidate for state representative.

�This guy posted on Facebook that homosexuals should be stoned to death,� said Rob Morris, who published the Moore Monthly and MooreDaily.com. �My first response was, �You�re nuts, nobody would be stupid enough to do that.��

But Scott Esk, a Tea Party Republican and John Birch Society member, did exactly that � repeatedly.

The GOP candidate responded to a post on Pope Francis saying �who am I to judge?� on homosexuality by posting numerous Old Testament quotations prescribing capital punishment for LGBT people.

Another commenter asked, �So just to be clear, you think we should execute homosexuals (presumably by stoning)?�

�I think we would be totally in the right to do it,� Esk said. �That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I�m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.�

Esk, who boasted of his �computer skills� and �good physical shape� to other Ron Paul supporters, said he became active in politics because he was tired of �collectivists stealing our freedoms constantly!!!�

�I believe that rights come from God � not from government � and that it should be limited, its taxes and spending should be low, its regulations few, and its protection of our liberties constant,� said Eck, who also calls for jury trials in divorce cases.

Esk told other Facebook commenters that, �if it helps any,� he believed such laws should be instituted locally, and not at the federal level.

�I would hope that libertarians who don�t think perversion should be punished in any way between consenting adults would be open-minded and look at the different results between a state that ignores it and (one) that punishes it severely,� he said. �And within a state, cities and communities may well have different policies, and I cheer that. That way, people can decide for themselves whether they want to live in a particular community based in part on how things like this are dealt with.�

Morris called Esk to ask him about his comments.

�What I will tell you right now is that was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God, and in that time, it was totally just � it came directly from God,� Esk said. �I have no plans to, you know, reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins.�

Morris said he�d never met anyone in Oklahoma who held such extreme views.

�Even people that don’t agree with things like gay marriage, they � nobody wants the death penalty for gays,� Morris said. �I mean, that�s the most asinine thing.�

Don't worry, Scott - your ill-informed incoherent horseshit about libertarianism and religion peppered with vomit-inducing self-praise makes me want to kill myself anyway.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jun 12, 2014

# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:36

ReidRansom: Oct 25, 2004

Oh, and I guess we've all moved on from the Oregon thing, but for those of you who didn't look at news about it today, turns out the kid was a right wing gun freak. Don't know if they've sussed a motive, but he was definitely wrapped up in the toxic right wing hateculture.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:39

Spacedad: Sep 11, 2001; We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

ReidRansom posted:

Oh, and I guess we've all moved on from the Oregon thing, but for those of you who didn't look at news about it today, turns out the kid was a right wing gun freak. Don't know if they've sussed a motive, but he was definitely wrapped up in the toxic right wing hateculture.

We haven't moved on from it yet because the information about it has still been coming in - we haven't even moved in on it yet.

This is the first I've heard about the shooter identity from anyone - if you could link some articles or whatever that would help.

Edit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dgun-knife.html

quote:

Police Chief Scott Anderson revealed that Padgett was armed with a legally owned AR-15 rifle, which he stole from his home and used to open fire and kill Emilio Hoffman, 14, and wound coach Todd Rispler. Police also revealed that Padgett arrived for his shooting spree on the school bus and was heavily armed, with nine loaded magazines, holding several hundred rounds carried in a guitar case - raising the possibility that he planned on committing mass murder. On Padgett's Facebook page, the 15-year-old liked two tactical knife companies, M4 assault rifles and political pages such as "Conservative American Military Veterans Against Barack Obama" and "We WILL NOT Be Disarmed."

Here's the really sad and ironic stinger to all this though: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/school-shooter-portland-ore-ar-15-report-article-1.1825533

quote:

Meanwhile, police revealed that a gun-toting man found near the high school after the shooting was 21-year-old Joseph Powell. He told cops he had raced to the school to protect his sister, who is a freshman. Powell was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm.

Another 'good guy with a gun' who wasn't able to do jack diddly and could have potentially made the situation worse.

See, because ~~smoking doctor-recommended cigarettes will add health and sex appeal~~ having a gun will make you a a good guy hero with a gun to stop bad guys with guns.

So all of us here were busy waiting for more info to come in on the Oregon shooting before we could comment on it. However, Fox's Dr. Keith Ablow decided to go on right ahead and give us his well-considered 'expert' opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMN1EMMVeVo

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/10/fox-wastes-no-time-pushing-right-wing-canards-a/199656

quote:

Although no biographical details of the shooter were known at the time, Fox News psychiatrist Keith Ablow said on the June 10 edition of Outnumbered, "I predict again that we'll find that yet another person who used a gun was compromised by one or more psychological or psychiatric illnesses that could have been detected." Ablow also attacked "anti-gun nuts" who he said would blame the shooting on firearms.

Great timing by the egg-headed prick. :allears:

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Jun 12, 2014

# ? Jun 12, 2014 07:40

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

I can't find "Conservative American Military Veterans Against Barack Obama" on Facebook.

But I do see it on Teapartycommunity.com

:unsmigghh:

Edit:
False alarm, unless his account's been deleted, there's only 8 members of that group and none of them are him.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 08:22

ReidRansom: Oct 25, 2004

Spacedad posted:

We haven't moved on from it yet because the information about it has still been coming in - we haven't even moved in on it yet.

This is the first I've heard about the shooter identity from anyone - if you could link some articles or whatever that would help.

Mormon, JROTC, brother was in Army, facebook full of likes on weapon manufacturers and some anti-Obama stuff, poo poo like that.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/justice/oregon-school-shooter/

http://heavy.com/news/2014/06/jared-michael-padgett-reynolds-high-school-shooter-gunman-family-motive/

And apologies for a Daily Mail link, but this one mentions him arguing with a classmate about Hitler or something? Kinda vague exactly what the argument was, but something about the holocaust and "this is the way it is now".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dgun-knife.html

Who loving knows what drove him to do it though. Kid seemed to be generally well liked, none of the usual warning signs and poo poo. He was definitely wrapped up in right wing poo poo, but that describes a lot of disagreeable but otherwise fairly well adjusted people who don't go around shooting people for no discernible reason.

ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jun 12, 2014

# ? Jun 12, 2014 08:43

woke wedding drone: Jun 1, 2003; by exmarx; Fun Shoe

Spacedad posted:

Also, here's a smug piece of poo poo who wants to be able to legally murder me: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/ok-gop-candidate-let-cities-decide-whether-gays-should-be-stoned-to-death/

Don't worry, Scott - your ill-informed incoherent horseshit about libertarianism and religion peppered with vomit-inducing self-praise makes me want to kill myself anyway.

So in the Bush administration, Scott McClellan had to tiptoe around the fact that Bush didn't support making birth control illegal:

quote:

I think we've talked about these issues before and these issues when it comes to the federal government and programs aimed at promoting abstinence and how those ought to be funded on at least equal footing with other programs, so I think we've addressed the President's views in that context.

Now I guess candidates have to tiptoe around the fact that they are not 100% pro-stoning.

My! What wonders await between now and 2016? What will be the litmus tests of the Republican primaries? My money is on some sort of Nicene Creed that finally solidifies the triune nature of Reagan, Jesus and Rand. Reagan was born fully man, fully god, fully Christian and fully objectivist. He did not die, he went into occlusion like the Mahdi. On the 10th anniversary of Benghazi, he will return bearing the message of randchrist.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 09:17

Flaskraven: Nov 20, 2012; I hope you get crushed to death by a fat guy trying to commit suicide by falling out of a window and when the paramedics answer the local bystander asking if you'll live, he just says "fat chance" and laughs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...411f_story.html

quote:

On June 27, he sent an e-mail to his friends titled, �Who is John Galt?,� a reference to the hero of Ayn Rand�s novel �Atlas Shrugged,� about individualism in a dystopian America.

�I will serve no bandit, nor lair, for i know John Galt, and understand . . . � Bergdahl wrote. �This life is too short to serve those who compromise value, and its ethics. i am done compromising.�

Three days later, Bergdahl walked off his post.

So he walked off because he was a libertarian shithead?

# ? Jun 12, 2014 14:19

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

Flaskraven posted:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...411f_story.html

So he walked off because he was a libertarian shithead?

Coming from Idaho that doesn't really surprise me, it's fairly easy to dismiss him now though even if he's in alignment with some of your movement.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 14:41

Warcabbit: Apr 26, 2008; Wedge Regret

Spacedad posted:

Also, here's a smug piece of poo poo who wants to be able to legally murder me: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/11/ok-gop-candidate-let-cities-decide-whether-gays-should-be-stoned-to-death/

Don't worry, Scott - your ill-informed incoherent horseshit about libertarianism and religion peppered with vomit-inducing self-praise makes me want to kill myself anyway.

Hey, you know, gingers don't have souls.
I wonder how he'd feel about being mocked for being a ginger.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 14:43

pangstrom: Jan 25, 2003; Wedge Regret

"Remiss" is usually the poseur's version of "because reasons". I don't think I've ever seen "very remiss" but not surprised that the first time I've seen it is in an argument for killing people for being gay.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 14:48

esto es malo: Aug 3, 2006; Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Spacedad posted:

Don't worry, Scott - your ill-informed incoherent horseshit about libertarianism and religion peppered with vomit-inducing self-praise makes me want to kill myself anyway.

These posts are the silver lining in the existence of such awful people.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 15:22

OAquinas: Jan 27, 2008; Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

So Bergdahl went Galt? While on the surface of that you'd think that would complicate the Hate Machine by supplicating to their randian masturbatory fantasies, I know it's just going to get glossed over and ignored. At best, no True Scotsrand.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 15:54

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

OAquinas posted:

So Bergdahl went Galt?

We really have no idea what his motivations were. The only definitive thing that we can say about Bergdahl is that he didn't belong in any military that was more disciplined and rigorous than a suburban airsoft league.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 16:00

moths: Aug 25, 2004; I would also still appreciate some danger.

...Which is possibly the exact level of discipline in his unit. It's going to be an interesting investigation.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 16:14

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Zeroisanumber posted:

We really have no idea what his motivations were. The only definitive thing that we can say about Bergdahl is that he didn't belong in any military that was more disciplined and rigorous than a suburban airsoft league.

I seem to remember reading lots of stories in the mid-2000s about the lengths the military had to go to in order to meet their recruiting quotas, and that standards were relaxed to the point of non-existence. Gang tattoos? White power affiliations? Special needs student? Hear voices in your head sometimes? Uncle Sam wants you! It was also hard to get mediocre or bad soldiers out of units because there was no one in the pipeline to replace them, so even a proven goofball like Bergdahl would be kept on.

# ? Jun 12, 2014 16:23

Mr Ice Cream Glove: Apr 22, 2007

�Gun control is the ultimate war on women. Firearms are the equalizer between the sexes. Sam Colt made us equal, indeed. This book explores that, the racist roots of gun control, and debunks the biggest arguments made by anti-gun extremists. The AR is on the cover because it is the most vilified, misunderstood rifle in America, responsible for the fewest crimes. Education is the antidote to ignorance. Consider this book the medicine.�

# ? Jun 12, 2014 16:33

Eggplant Squire: Aug 14, 2003

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

�the racist roots of gun control�

That's pretty shameless.

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# ? Jun 12, 2014 16:38

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