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The March Hare posted:Yeah I'm just playing swiss to figure poo poo out. Played bog standard U/W skies to 3-0 and now I have an insane madness deck in U/G that I'm about to test out. Your deck looked like my first VMA draft after 2 packs, then you got more good cards in your 3rd pack. I'm currently 1-1 in swiss with black/red aggro. I think I might have committed to Madness a little too soon in the first draft I did, the packs just weren't there.
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Angry Grimace posted:Its a pretty slow, not terribly powerful format...most of the time: Reminds me of the time I saw a guy power out Ironroot Treefolk on T1 when I phantom drafted Unlimited.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Anyone watching the SCG stream? These are just IQs, not a full-fledged SCG Open.
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Bugsy posted:So a properly elevated and rotated Chaos Orb lands on a Progenitus, is Progenitus destroyed? Yes. Touching isn't targeting.
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Jun 13, 2014 21:27
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FordCQC posted:These are just IQs, not a full-fledged SCG Open. Can you explain to the more retarded of us what the difference is? I'm really excited by this, I might be able to sneak in a few more larger modern events in a year with these.
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2-1 with U/G madness, diving in for a third draft now. http://www.hitbox.tv/marchhare
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jassi007 posted:Can you explain to the more retarded of us what the difference is? I'm really excited by this, I might be able to sneak in a few more larger modern events in a year with these. An Open has a $10K prize pool, gets broadcast coverage and gives SCG Invitational invites to the top 8. An IQ is an Invitational Qualifier: lower prize pool, probably won't get as much coverage (at first?) and only the winner gets the invite.
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FordCQC posted:These are just IQs, not a full-fledged SCG Open. A quadruple IQ. Or a half Open.
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The March Hare posted:2-1 with U/G madness, diving in for a third draft now. I pretty much tried to force U/G madness after opening a Trop in the first pack, but perhaps that wasn't a great idea because the picks never really materialized.
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AnacondaHL posted:A quadruple IQ. Or a half Open.
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AnacondaHL posted:A quadruple IQ. Or a half Open. Yeah, I guess a half-Open is a good way of thinking of it. I thought of Classics as half-Opens, but they're way less relevant.
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Angry Grimace posted:I pretty much tried to force U/G madness after opening a Trop in the first pack, but perhaps that wasn't a great idea because the picks never really materialized. I opened a Counterspell and a Deep Analysis and tried forcing U/G madness, but the cards weren't there for it. I decided to stop forcing archetypes and just take the best removal and biggest creatures, which seems to be working OK. I also grabbed some sweet synergy with Animate Dead and cycling creatures, though.
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Update on those 15 sample deck only cards:quote:Magic: The Gathering @wizards_magic Makes a bit more sense. The Toolkits are pretty good for beginning players.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:I opened a Counterspell and a Deep Analysis and tried forcing U/G madness, but the cards weren't there for it. I decided to stop forcing archetypes and just take the best removal and biggest creatures, which seems to be working OK. I also grabbed some sweet synergy with Animate Dead and cycling creatures, though. I'm just as bad at drafting VMA as I am in every other format. Financially speaking, drafting MTGO is equivalent to burning money for me because everyone on MTGO is better than I am at drafting. Its kind of fun to do every once in a while, but I guess I just don't "get" it.
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I'm just confused why thought it was that important to give the new players these specific cards that aren't really in M15. They couldn't design a starter deck without resorting to pulling out simpler cards on special order? Is M15 really that complicated a set?
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Entropic posted:I'm just confused why thought it was that important to give the new players these specific cards that aren't really in M15. They couldn't design a starter deck without resorting to pulling out simpler cards on special order? Is M15 really that complicated a set? I'd like to think it's more to do with the limited environment. They wanted these cards in standard, but not actually in the boosters, either because they mess up limited play, or because it's like the millionth reprint. (I know some of the cards were specifically in M14, so I know I won't end up with more of them if I crack packs of M15.)
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Entropic posted:I'm just confused why thought it was that important to give the new players these specific cards that aren't really in M15. They couldn't design a starter deck without resorting to pulling out simpler cards on special order? Is M15 really that complicated a set? Maybe they wanted to make a limited environment that didn't involve Serra Angel et al.
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Today's Travis Woo draft video on CFB is an all-time legendary limited deck.
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Boco_T posted:Today's Travis Woo draft video on CFB is an all-time legendary limited deck. I can't stand his stupid voice. Maybe I'll see if YouTube has those automatic subtitles.
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Finkle is about to draft VM if people want to watch. http://www.twitch.tv/jonnymagic00
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Boco_T posted:Today's Travis Woo draft video on CFB is an all-time legendary limited deck. I can attest to this. Also Owen's draft vid on CFB posted yesterday is equally nutty and highly recommended.
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Vomax posted:I can't stand his stupid voice. Maybe I'll see if YouTube has those automatic subtitles. You don't admire his undying devotion to Jeff Spicoli?
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Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't think Vintage Masters is even that great of a value given its cost vs. regular packs simply because there's so many rares in the set, you're very unlikely to actually draft anything terribly good, which also makes drafting super variable because you might draft Yawgmoth's Will but you might draft a foil Fungusaur.
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Angry Grimace posted:Yes. Whoever has the best resources on the board wins. The only thing you can do is draw down to Mutavaults.
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Angry Grimace posted:Maybe I'm nuts, but I don't think Vintage Masters is even that great of a value given its cost vs. regular packs simply because there's so many rares in the set, you're very unlikely to actually draft anything terribly good, which also makes drafting super variable because you might draft Yawgmoth's Will but you might draft a foil Fungusaur. Yawgmoth's Will is on the lower end of value in Vintage Masters, it's more like the lottery chance of pulling a foil Black Lotus against that Yawgmoth's Will. In any case I find it a shitload of fun, it's honestly the best Limited I've played since 3X INN and that's including Modern Masters. There are so many unfamiliar cards and it's hard to wrap my head around the format, and the process of discovery is huge fun.
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Yawgmoth's Will is on the lower end of value in Vintage Masters, it's more like the lottery chance of pulling a foil Black Lotus against that Yawgmoth's Will. In any case I find it a shitload of fun, it's honestly the best Limited I've played since 3X INN and that's including Modern Masters. There are so many unfamiliar cards and it's hard to wrap my head around the format, and the process of discovery is huge fun. I don't mean financial value, I mean being any good. Its not like there aren't plenty of jank rares in the set. If anything, playable rares are much harder to come by because with 140 cards in rare or higher tiers, you're highly unlikely to encounter any particular card.
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Sharzak posted:It's possible they just know numbers without being able to ID who drafted what. If you sign up for the Magic Online newsletter, you get personal factoids like your most drafted uncommons in Theros block, so they do have access to statistics on a per player basis.
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Well I rolled into a Vintage Masters draft to play the Lotus Lottery, but I failed to get any value whatsoever. Let's hope my middling UG Madness can do something and get a pack or two...
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Entropic posted:I'm just confused why thought it was that important to give the new players these specific cards that aren't really in M15. They couldn't design a starter deck without resorting to pulling out simpler cards on special order? Is M15 really that complicated a set? Who cares?
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Dr. Clockwork posted:Well I rolled into a Vintage Masters draft to play the Lotus Lottery, but I failed to get any value whatsoever. Let's hope my middling UG Madness can do something and get a pack or two... The problem with UG Madness is that everyone is trying to do it so you can't find Arrogant Wurms or Basking Rootwallas.
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Angry Grimace posted:The problem with UG Madness is that everyone is trying to do it so you can't find Arrogant Wurms or Basking Rootwallas. I ended up with 1 Circular Logic, a Bouncer, 2 Rootwallas, a Wurm and 2 of that draw spell. Fingers crossed I can ride it to valuetown! edit: Round 1 opponent has lost connection, looking good for a round 1 victory! edit edit: I WIN! 
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:Any advice? I'm pretty bad, I think I'm overcommitting to cute archetypes instead of taking the strongest cards. Listen to the Limited Resources podcast about the format. It won't give you everything you need, but it'll give you some good tools and criteria to work from for making card judgments. edit: Here: http://lrcast.com/limited-resources-237-vintage-masters-primer-show/ mcnealys baby fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Jun 14, 2014 |
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I just entered a Vintage Masters sealed and my opponent just cast a foil Mox Ruby, followed by Dack Fayden, followed by Demonic Tutor 
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mcnealys baby posted:Listen to the Limited Resources podcast about the format. It won't give you everything you need, but it'll give you some good tools and criteria to work from for making card judgments. Yeah, I did. I felt like I was trying too hard to force archetypes though, I do better just figuring out what are the strongest cards and going from there.
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Ableist Kinkshamer posted:I just entered a Vintage Masters sealed and my opponent just cast a foil Mox Ruby, followed by Dack Fayden, followed by Demonic Tutor Kick his rear end anyway.
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