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Mio Bison posted:Ultra's too new for there to be many character-specific tutorials but Makoto has one of the best AE2012 tutorials in the Rindoukan Bible and 99% of it is still applicable: http://otersi.com/rindoukan/ I was thinking about learning makoto for a while now and that guide totally made her seem to be really fun. I've been playing her on the ladder for a while now and I really like her unique playstyle. One problem I'm having right now is that I'm a bit confused on which techniques I should start learning first, especially considering that I'm a pretty new player in general and a lot of the things that this guide talks about are beyond my comprehension. Any advice?
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Jun 14, 2014 18:05
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Makoto seems like a really really bad character to learn the game with. It's like learning to ride a bike on one of those speedway motorcycles that only turns to the left and has no brakes.
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Jun 14, 2014 18:08
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:Dreamhack is so good, are you guys watching. That's cheating. There weren't any games going on at that point.  The crowd is larger than last year at least. This is surprising because Gandhi isn't even there.
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Jun 14, 2014 18:17
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So after working on the advice I got earlier in the thread I have a few questions. Outside of SRK, what are some good reference materials to learn Yang. I need to learn stuff as to why dive kicking is good, some of his matchups, pokes, and other reference materials are because especially since I've dropped Marvel if really like to get better at the game. After a couple of matches with some people who added me after I showed off some of those matches, the people here really know their stuff and I think having better opponents will make me a better player. I've taken to recording my matches and rewatchingn them and I still want to get as much critique as I can even as I get my rear end beaten into the ground to learn it.
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Jun 14, 2014 18:28
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a!n posted:That's cheating. There weren't any games going on at that point. The legend has bigger things to worry about than Dreamhack.  FSP was there though. http://a.pomf.se/1/aorlrk.webm For anyone who hasn't watched the FSP vs Ghandi match, do yourself a favour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEVcZ3anG0
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Jun 14, 2014 18:33
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TheManSeries posted:So after working on the advice I got earlier in the thread I have a few questions. Outside of SRK, what are some good reference materials to learn Yang. I need to learn stuff as to why dive kicking is good, some of his matchups, pokes, and other reference materials are because especially since I've dropped Marvel if really like to get better at the game. After a couple of matches with some people who added me after I showed off some of those matches, the people here really know their stuff and I think having better opponents will make me a better player. I've taken to recording my matches and rewatchingn them and I still want to get as much critique as I can even as I get my rear end beaten into the ground to learn it. The biggest problem with trying to get better at these games is that unless you have cool people who are willing to play with you on a regular basis and coach you, it's really hard to practice advanced stuff online because most online players are bad. When 90% of the people you play online will wakeup DP or wakeup Ultra it's nearly impossible to practice anything other than safejump setups. Almost nobody online blocks on wakeup or plays footsies, providing they even know what footsies is. That's why so many people always jump in or throw fireballs. They have no idea what to do when they're in range of their opponent's normals so they just try to circumvent that entire part of the game. It's frustrating for people like us who really want to learn and practice intermediate (or even some fundamental) techniques. 
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Jun 14, 2014 18:36
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You're sticking with yang? I'll try to post something later about how to learn from Match vids, which is what you need to do
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Jun 14, 2014 19:48
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Makoto seems like a really really bad character to learn the game with. It's like learning to ride a bike on one of those speedway motorcycles that only turns to the left and has no brakes. I learned fighting game with her as my main. It's tough to adjust to other chars once you have her down as your first char , but to play her effectively you end up learning how to do advanced things like frametraps without realising it. Makoto rules.
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Jun 14, 2014 20:24
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Makoto seems like a really really bad character to learn the game with. It's like learning to ride a bike on one of those speedway motorcycles that only turns to the left and has no brakes. I'm bad at this game but I've been playing it for a while now. I just want to learn to play a character with a completely different playstyle and I'm not sure where to start.
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Jun 14, 2014 21:26
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Jack Trades posted:I'm bad at this game but I've been playing it for a while now. I just want to learn to play a character with a completely different playstyle and I'm not sure where to start. I went from Ken to Dhalsim for this very reason. I'll also throw in Dee Jay for good measure for charge play. Unrelated, but I also enjoy randomly randomly punching myself in the dick for fun.
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Jun 14, 2014 22:22
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The SFIV series must have the only community where players WILL send a PM after losing to you horribly to let you know that you, in fact, have no idea how to play the game. At least in MK or whatever I get players reminding me that I sexually prefer men, but that's typical salt. SFIV gameplay always seems to synthesis the most potent of salt out of the sperglords. I usually respond with the usual "If I'm so awful, then why did you lose?  " and then ignore the sure to come 5-6 followup messages, but I need something better to respond with although I'm not very creative with these things..
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Jun 15, 2014 01:24
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KOMI posted:SFIV gameplay always seems to synthesis the most potent of salt out of the sperglords. I can't speak for anyone else but this is basically what keeps me going. :pubbietears: or whatever that emote is.
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Jun 15, 2014 01:27
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KOMI posted:The SFIV series must have the only community where players WILL send a PM after losing to you horribly to let you know that you, in fact, have no idea how to play the game. I used to get this across all games, sadly. "If you had any skill you wouldn't have to use the shotgun." "If you knew how to race you wouldn't need that Lamborghini." For these people the world must be filled with lucky idiots who stumble into win after win while the burden of their genius relegates them to last place.
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Jun 15, 2014 02:44
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systran posted:You're sticking with yang? I'll try to post something later about how to learn from I'd really like to stick with Yang, but if he's someone I need far more knowledge to play even slightly effectively, I'm open to trying someone like Ryu or going back to Cody.
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Jun 15, 2014 02:50
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Man, PSN is really, really awful. I'm so tempted to re-up on XBL for 3 months and buy Ultra for it. But that would mean buying Ultra 3 times since I'm going to get it for PC as well in August.
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Jun 15, 2014 06:42
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Constellation I posted:Man, PSN is really, really awful. I'm so tempted to re-up on XBL for 3 months and buy Ultra for it. But that would mean buying Ultra 3 times since I'm going to get it for PC as well in August. whats wrong with psn? I have never had XBL so i cant compare but I did play tons on pc before steam ruined it.
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Jun 15, 2014 06:54
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Fauxtool posted:whats wrong with psn? I have never had XBL so i cant compare but I did play tons on pc before steam ruined it. Slower, more lag. Honestly, when PC is working ok it screams compared to it.
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Jun 15, 2014 07:05
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A certain nerd sent me this message on PSN because I told him to:a nerd posted:my bounty is as boundless as the sea I was moved to tears. Edit: I messed up the transcript, fixed it. I couldn't leave such art defiled in that way. Shadow Ninja 64 fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Jun 15, 2014 |
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Jun 15, 2014 09:49
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 The death of rushdown Poison 
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Jun 15, 2014 09:51
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If only they had buffed Viper for no apparent reason.
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Jun 15, 2014 15:53
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he'll be back
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Jun 15, 2014 17:02
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:A certain nerd sent me this message on PSN because I told him to: I clapped. Exactly three times.
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Jun 15, 2014 17:02
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I haven't really played a Street Fighter since Turbo 2 on the SNES. I picked up AE on the PC and I started to play Gouken. I really like the way he handles, I got some okay combos with the backthrow and ex palm strike. I have a neat corner combo with the palm strike, too. Am I setting myself up for disaster with this character? Any advice? Also, if anyone else who is relatively new wants to play you should post your steam name. Add me if you want, ｇａｍｅｒ ｄａｄ ４２０
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Jun 15, 2014 17:33
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Team Stab posted:Any advice? I don't know much about Gouken, but Velociraptor is one of the best. He plays at every WNF, so there's plenty of footage of him playing. Obviously you can't get everything you need from watching a pro play, but it'll give you an idea of what you should be looking for.
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Jun 15, 2014 19:09
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cams posted:https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=velociraptor+gouken Look up Shine too. He's the east coast Gouken specialist. He and Velociraptor play differently so you can learn a lot from them.
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Jun 15, 2014 19:18
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YogaFlame24 has a lot of videos of ProudStrawberry, who is known to be the premier Gouken player in Japan.
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Jun 15, 2014 19:20
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June 13th AE Patch posted:Release Notes: On the Ultra front: My Cody is terrible, but I still beat the #5 Dan on XBL  . I should stop playing characters with bad wakeup options.
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Jun 15, 2014 19:24
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apple posted:
So what(if anything) was the prompt for this?
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Jun 15, 2014 22:59
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Evil Canadian posted:So what(if anything) was the prompt for this? Who knows  I've played him but he seems to have this one track mind of trying bullrush his way in and just pressing a lot of buttons with Poison which is the opposite of what she seems to be about. Sure her buttons have ridiculous frame advantage up close, but you have to pick and choose your spots where you wanna do frame traps on the opponent. He almost never bothers with zoning unless it's to chip people out, and commits too often to unsafe rekkas. From his deleted tweets, supposedly the only reason he was hype for USF4 was Poison, but I guess he just likes Poison because boobies and not because it's an interesting character to play.
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Jun 16, 2014 00:23
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Team Stab posted:I haven't really played a Street Fighter since Turbo 2 on the SNES. I picked up AE on the PC and I started to play Gouken. I really like the way he handles, I got some okay combos with the backthrow and ex palm strike. I have a neat corner combo with the palm strike, too. Am I setting myself up for disaster with this character? Any advice? I'm terrible at Street Fighter but I happen to have it installed, so http://steamcommunity.com/id/m0ller Steam's player search seems to choke on your username, posting a link to the profile generally works better.
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Jun 16, 2014 01:51
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apple posted:Who knows Do you have any players or examples of good poison play? So far all I can figure out is that she gets CHs like crazy and you get safe wakeup pressure with hp fireballs. People I play against tell me it feels stifling, but its certainly not rushdown.
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Jun 16, 2014 06:52
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She's more opportunistic than most "lame" characters. Take Guile for example, if he knocks you down in the corner and has a chance to get a meaty sonic boom into a jump mixup, sure why not. Otherwise he usually backs off. Poison on the other hand will want to take advantage of her fierce fireballs more, she gets a TON of damage off CH setups, and has the normals to set them up. It comes with the package since her rekkas go into hard knockdown. The most effective Poison players so far just play incredibly lame, even moreso with a lifelead, but she's definitely built to fish for very high damage combos every now and then. This video has a lot of combos on her, including CH setups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk3dJ5BEuTI It's a bit long, but some of the corner combos and CH setups nobody really does yet even though they seem pretty practical.
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Jun 16, 2014 07:18
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Why didn't wolfkrone just stick with viper since he doesn't like zoning or playing sf4?
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Jun 16, 2014 13:07
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So apparently Crack Kick trades with Elena's U1  I was surprised.
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Jun 16, 2014 14:29
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How do I punish Rufus' divekick if I'm not a grappler and don't have a DP? And I don't mean 'jab him out of the air' either. It feels like even if I block a high one I can't do anything about it.
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Jun 16, 2014 14:54
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apple posted:She's more opportunistic than most "lame" characters. Take Guile for example, if he knocks you down in the corner and has a chance to get a meaty sonic boom into a jump mixup, sure why not. Otherwise he usually backs off. Poison on the other hand will want to take advantage of her fierce fireballs more, she gets a TON of damage off CH setups, and has the normals to set them up. It comes with the package since her rekkas go into hard knockdown. One of the reasons why I was interested in picking up Poison was because she looked like a more offensively-minded Rose. Lame, sure, but really good at frame-traps and really good at capitalizing CHs.
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Jun 16, 2014 15:02
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a!n posted:How do I punish Rufus' divekick if I'm not a grappler and don't have a DP? And I don't mean 'jab him out of the air' either. It feels like even if I block a high one I can't do anything about it. What character are you using? Some characters can three-button crouch tech with an anti-air. There are ways for him to punish that too, but it at least makes him work harder and guess more.
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Jun 16, 2014 15:14
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systran posted:What character are you using? Some characters can three-button crouch tech with an anti-air. There are ways for him to punish that too, but it at least makes him work harder and guess more. I was playing Dudley in that set. That OS only works after he has already gotten in and you can hit him while he's trying to jump again. I'm looking for a good way to prevent him from getting to that point.
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Dias posted:One of the reasons why I was interested in picking up Poison was because she looked like a more offensively-minded Rose. Lame, sure, but really good at frame-traps and really good at capitalizing CHs. What are some CH only Poison combos? That looks like a fun reason to play him/her.
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