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Holy poo poo, those dice were out for blood. Also, some surprising mercy. On multiple counts. EDIT: Update on previous page.
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Oof, I finally find an internet for the first time in over a week and I see that things have turned a bit grim. That unknown assault is a total monster. Even with the mercy shown by PTN that Kodiak is about dead with that gyro hit and extremely exposed CT. Add to that the half missing Bane and the increasingly ragged Dire Wolves....
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Jun 16, 2014 02:22
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Oh, that Crab wants to dance? I'll dance. Planning on moving two hexes North into the Forest hex for additional cover and then firing all LRMs at the Crab,wherever it may be. It moved 9 points last round and so it doesn't look like I can outrun OR outmaneuver it. Probably can't avoid giving it my rear so I think I will find as much cover as I can and just shoot at it with all my missiles and see. Thoughts?
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Jun 16, 2014 06:11
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Yep, they really are Manei Domini. Kodiak pilot, you're almost certainly going to die, so I suggest a full alpha against the Assault with the Lance. Drag him down to hell with you.
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Jun 16, 2014 06:17
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Artificer posted:Oh, that Crab wants to dance? I'll dance. It's 6/9. Always, always give target orders. Particular with ACE units around. If you move to 1724 and face north he can't get behind you. Don't give up your back to him, just make him duel and then punish him. That gyro hit hurts. Looks like stand and deliver time for the Kodiak. Luckily he's have some help this turn. Kial fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Jun 16, 2014 06:28
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I wondered why Arty didn't send any contingency orders to shoot in case the ACE Crab decided to attack him that turn. Whoops.
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Jun 16, 2014 06:33
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Just noticed the other 100 ton has entered the building. Oh dear.
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Jun 16, 2014 06:35
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T.G. Xarbala posted:I like your style. But, since it's the NRWR, perhaps sharkhunting is a bit too counter to the brief? Can't go around shooting national symbols. Maybe call it, Iunno... Then cheese the gently caress out of a Mark II variant to the point that no one will let you use it in tabletop. Call it the Sharkjumper.
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Jun 16, 2014 06:40
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Hey, uh, reading over that story segment makes me wonder....is it possible that the NRWR are actually the good guys overall?
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Jun 16, 2014 06:52
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jng2058 posted:Hey, uh, reading over that story segment makes me wonder....is it possible that the NRWR are actually the good guys overall? http://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU
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Jun 16, 2014 06:58
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I'd hesitate to call any faction in Battletech the 'good guys'. We know very little about the NRWR so it's probably a little early to be making judgements about them. What we do know is that Amaris appears to be a thinking man who reward competence in his subordinates, but he's also an armchair general with a hinted ruthless streak. There are probably a good number of skeletons in the NRWR's closet same as the other Great Houses.
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Jun 16, 2014 06:59
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BattleTech has no good guys. We each have to choose which type of utter shithead we feel most comfortable sympathizing with, is all.
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Jun 16, 2014 07:18
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Robots inside bigger robots! When will the madness end?!
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Jun 16, 2014 07:35
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Maybe there's a smaller robot inside, even still.
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Jun 16, 2014 08:00
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T.G. Xarbala posted:I wondered why Arty didn't send any contingency orders to shoot in case the ACE Crab decided to attack him that turn. Whoops. I did. I thought that I was going to lose LOS on him this turn, so my contingency orders were to fire on any targets that appeared in my LOS. I suppose I didn't account for the Crab still being in LOS to me and so I had my contingency orders set as "Contingency fire orders: If there is a target that I have LOS on, fire on the closest such target with all LRM tubes. Doesn't seem to be the case though." I guess I should've ordered my mech to TURN if necessary though. 
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Jun 16, 2014 08:00
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Artificer posted:I did. I thought that I was going to lose LOS on him this turn, so my contingency orders were to fire on any targets that appeared in my LOS. I suppose I didn't account for the Crab still being in LOS to me and so I had my contingency orders set as "Contingency fire orders: If there is a target that I have LOS on, fire on the closest such target with all LRM tubes. Doesn't seem to be the case though." I guess I should've ordered my mech to TURN if necessary though. Oof, didn't realize that. Maybe it was about not specifying a torso-twist. Oh, well. Now I'm just wondering if there's a blind spot you've got to worry about.
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Jun 16, 2014 08:10
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Oof, didn't realize that. Maybe it was about not specifying a torso-twist. Yeah in retrospect I should have specified "and turn/flip arms if necessary to aim at closest available target."
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Jun 16, 2014 08:13
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Oof, didn't realize that. Maybe it was about not specifying a torso-twist. I don't think torso twisting has to be put in orders. At least, I haven't been doing so. It would increase player mistakes to insane levels if that was the case. PTN can clear it up. It's possible he didn't accept the targeting order as valid? Not sure. The Kodiak might want to consider hitting the 'fire everything' button. Kial fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Jun 16, 2014 08:14
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Kial posted:I don't think torso twisting has to be put in orders. Well last time with the Coyote I specifically said "arm flip or torso twist in whatever direction necessary" so maybe that was what I should've done here.
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Jun 16, 2014 08:20
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dis astranagant posted:MML seems to think that BA partial wing lets you cram on a 4th point. The AP mount isn't required because the troopers are literally just holding the gun in armored gloves, which let you do anything you can do with your hands normally just with some slight power assist. If the MP is a tool error just stick the extra weight in armor because it has nowhere else to go. Ah, I thought it was in an anti personnel mount because next to the Mauser in the weapons bit it says (APM) next to it.
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It's Lurmsgeddon all over again  Is there a way to reliably avoid indirect fire? EDIT: I think the target was too generic? If think PTN specified that "if I see somebody" is not a valid target when we were discussing "Longbows in the Woods" a couple of turns ago. That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Jun 16, 2014 09:42
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PoptartsNinja posted:Ultimatum: Tactical Update 24 I think this word is superfluous.
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Jun 16, 2014 09:42
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That Italian Guy posted:It's Lurmsgeddon all over again That makes sense. My bad, guys.
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Jun 16, 2014 10:02
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Shoeless posted:Ah, I thought it was in an anti personnel mount because next to the Mauser in the weapons bit it says (APM) next to it. I think that's just MML weirdness abstracting armored gloves as an integrated APM. On the crit diagram its attached to one of the gloves and would let me stick one on the other glove if I was feeling silly. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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Jun 16, 2014 10:15
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The NRWR are the good guys or at least the good guys in this fight and I'll brook no argument. 
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Jun 16, 2014 12:16
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Whatever force is opposing the Clans is automatically the good guys. You could be fighting the Word of Blake and they'd be the good guys as long as they're fighting the Clans.
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Jun 16, 2014 12:31
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That Italian Guy posted:Is there a way to reliably avoid indirect fire? You're going to have to grin and take it. The good news is one of the LRMs is down, and that Longbow might shot me instead. Probably best to just plow ahead. You can probably kill the Chameleon in 1507, maybe from 1406?
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Jun 16, 2014 14:01
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code:The X10 Stalker excels in close combat conditions in urban environments. Simple send him forth in the right direction, and make him your enemies problem! Follow the trail of blood and gore, preferably long after he's moved on. When the enemy finally punches though the X10 Stalker's thick armour, your man won't be able to resist going out with a bang with the patented C23 Suicide Vest! It'll take out his attackers, the building he's in, and possibly the rest of the block! Watch the handwork from a distance, and know that you've killed two birds with one stone. Order today!
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Jun 16, 2014 14:50
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Gimmick Account posted:I think this word is superfluous. Nah, PTN is saying that Clan Commando has seen worse conditions in training, and friends killed by said worse conditions in hosed up honour-duels, more frequently than she can count. I can only assume, consequently, that clan culture is like a Rube Goldberg machine of death
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Jun 16, 2014 15:16
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mercenarynuker posted:Nah, PTN is saying that Clan Commando has seen worse conditions in training, and friends killed by said worse conditions in hosed up honour-duels, more frequently than she can count. I can only assume, consequently, that clan culture is like a Rube Goldberg machine of death If you're Doing It Right in Clan society, you're dead by 35.
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Which Clan was it that had an initiation rite where new warriors had to run at another dude holding a sword pointed at them? 
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mercenarynuker posted:I can only assume, consequently, that clan culture is like a Rube Goldberg machine of death Correct! There's a line of thought that this was the Kerenskys' plan all along, take the soldiers far away and euthanase them.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:I wondered why Arty didn't send any contingency orders to shoot in case the ACE Crab decided to attack him that turn. Whoops. He did, sort-of, but That Italian Guy is correct. "Any target in line-of-sight" isn't a valid target for a number of reasons. Chronojam posted:Maybe there's a smaller robot inside, even still. A smaller robot... made of flesh and blood!  Scintilla posted:Which Clan was it that had an initiation rite where new warriors had to run at another dude holding a sword pointed at them? The Jade Falcons. I maintain that the first book of the Jade Phoenix Trilogy was intended to highlight how hosed-up and insane the Clans were; and the other two were written because money. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:The Jade Falcons. I maintain that the first book of the Jade Phoenix Trilogy was intended to highlight how hosed-up and insane the Clans were; and the other two were written because money. The Ghost Bears are the sanest people in the entire Battletech universe.
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SynthOrange posted:Robots inside bigger robots! When will the madness end?! http://youtu.be/vd22Qa7gqRo?t=5m20s In any case, I look forward to seeing you all in Hell. I don't think I have any actual movement options at this point, so I think it's time to just stand and deliver. Unless I can back down a hill and make him chase me closer in to the Atlas?
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Zeroisanumber posted:The Ghost Bears are the sanest people in the entire Battletech universe. "What forces do you bid?" "Uh... we don't have any 'Mechs or soldiers or any weapons at all, really. Would you be willing to play a game of football for control of the world instead?" "... Your terms are acceptable."
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You can't back down hills, unfortunately. Your best hope is that the Atlas IIC draws enough fire or somehow baits the TSM Lance, and I'm not sure he can get close enough to do that. Still, there's a decent chance the TSM Lance could miss; and there's a fairly good chance he'll try to double his odds of hitting your center torso by punching instead.
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Ok, he can't back down a hill so all the math I did is useless. =D The only thing to do is unload methinks. Since your chance of living is so low, you could fire almost everything. Everything except the ER LL (bad heat to damage ratio) would leave you on (40 + 14 + 4 + 4), assuming the Streaks hit) 22 heat. Add a extra 6 or so for the two Plasmas .... It's bad, but since you're about to die it might be worth it. You could leave out one ER ML and make it somewhat manageable in the unlikely event of living. Or just go whole hog. It's a lot of damage. I'll have a look at possible moves and see if anything jumps out. Kial fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jun 16, 2014 |
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I'd say just Alpha. You have a wide open torso and the Assault has a Snub-Nosed PPC that can destroy it in one hit. As can its Plasma Rifle. And if they miss the LB-10X will fill it full of crits. And that's before the physical combat starts. And then there's the second Assault waiting in the wings... It sucks, but I really wouldn't count on surviving this next turn.
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