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Smashlampjaw posted:Why is the soccer field so big? It isn't as big as you think it is. Ahem.
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the posted:Keep watching the USA. They have a good chance of making it out of the group stage. Despite being in the "Group of Death," today's match between Germany and Portugal was very fortuitous for USA. On top of looking terrible, Portugal had one or two key players get injured, and another red carded which puts him out of the group stage entirely. If the USA can beat Ghana today, that will put them in a good position to get out of the group. They have to beat Portugal (which seems all the more likely now) and simply survive Germany without losing too badly (or even playing defensively to a 0-0 tie). I thought a red card only gets you a one-game suspension (which is fine for us).
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Jun 16, 2014 20:30
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Henchman of Santa posted:I thought a red card only gets you a one-game suspension (which is fine for us). Two for a straight red for violent conduct, I think.
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Jun 16, 2014 20:32
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http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/50/02/75/discoinhalte.pdfquote:at least two matches for assaulting (elbowing, punching, kicking etc.) Assume it'd fall under that?
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Jun 16, 2014 20:38
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the posted:I think there is. On paper Ghana looked to be the weakest team for USA to face in this group. They had the most likely chance of winning (until Portugal's self-implosion).
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Jun 16, 2014 20:39
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If not for Suarez's handball Ghana would have been in the semifinals of the last World Cup. They're a legit team and any American who thinks that's an easy game is in for a rude awakening imo.
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Jun 16, 2014 20:55
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Portugal's backups are better than almost all of USA's starters.
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Jun 16, 2014 21:04
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Raheem Sterling runs funny
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Jun 16, 2014 21:08
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Essien and Kevin-Prince Boateng are out for Ghana today.
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Jun 16, 2014 21:26
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Henchman of Santa posted:Essien and Kevin-Prince Boateng are out for Ghana today. Milan lab strikes again! That sucks though, I really wanted to yell BOA BOA BOA TENG TENG TENG when he scored.
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Jun 16, 2014 21:37
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mynameisjohn posted:Ghana are still better than the US at almost every position on the field and are the most cohesive of the African teams. "The easiest team *for US to face in the group*" is what I said.
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Jun 16, 2014 22:29
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I think after the debacle of the USA game, FIFA should introduce an option to automatically re-start the match if a team clearly weren't ready and get scored against.
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Jun 16, 2014 23:03
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Two for a straight red for violent conduct, I think. I thought the kick in Dempsey's face was a straight red because it was.
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Jun 17, 2014 02:33
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mynameisjohn posted:Ghana are still better than the US at almost every position on the field and are the most cohesive of the African teams. vyelkin posted:If not for Suarez's handball Ghana would have been in the semifinals of the last World Cup. They're a legit team and any American who thinks that's an easy game is in for a rude awakening imo. Now everyone is saying they're poo poo because they never found their stride and got taken down, and that's why you play the game. Who are the noobs gonna believe?
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Jun 17, 2014 02:36
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posters just judged the individuals on the team and not the team as a whole. USA had very good organization and hard working atlehtic players which ultimatly matters a lot more than individual technical ability. Not to say that the usa were poo poo technically
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Jun 17, 2014 02:57
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vyelkin posted:If not for Aside from Freedom & Liberty's 3 points. Here's the deal. Luis Suarez committed a foul resulting in a red card and a penalty kick. Sadly for Ghana, they were not able to convert the penalty to a victory and ended up losing the match, putting Uruguay through the to the semifinals. None of this has any real bearing on the current World Cup Finals tournament. Aside from Ghana losing to Freedom & Liberty. highme fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Jun 17, 2014 03:20
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I should probably put this straight into the Bad Post thread but I am sincere, and I'd just like to get people's opinions. I have a problem with the low scoreline, but not for reasons of entertainment. Maybe because I'm also a fan of cricket I don't overly care about the result - I love the sport for its games-within-a-game, its technical excellence, the way it's always on a knife edge. And just like cricket I think a draw is the correct result for two evenly-matched teams. I have no time for arguments that more goals are required for entertainment reasons. My problem is that the low scoreline makes ref decisions in the box too important. And even then, it doesn't bother me in leagues because every team gets good and bad decisions over the course of a season so it balances out. But it makes any knockout comp suspect in my mind. I don't care that the low scoreline means that a lesser team can get a lucky goal in play and have an upset win (in fact, I think that's a strength), but I do care if it's the result of a bad call by the ref. Anyway, my question: is this just something that nobody cares about because they grew up with it, or is it just that any solutions would be worse than the status quo?
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gabensraum posted:Anyway, my question: is this just something that nobody cares about because they grew up with it, or is it just that any solutions would be worse than the status quo? Yes.
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Jun 17, 2014 04:34
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It all evens out in the end
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gabensraum posted:I should probably put this straight into the Bad Post thread but I am sincere, and I'd just like to get people's opinions. I have a problem with the low scoreline, but not for reasons of entertainment. Maybe because I'm also a fan of cricket I don't overly care about the result - I love the sport for its games-within-a-game, its technical excellence, the way it's always on a knife edge. And just like cricket I think a draw is the correct result for two evenly-matched teams. I have no time for arguments that more goals are required for entertainment reasons. If you don't want decisions in the box to go against you, don't let em into your box. Life lessons itt.
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Jun 17, 2014 06:25
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sassassin posted:If you don't want decisions in the box to go against you, don't let em into your box. Is this some sort of MRA rape metaphor
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Jun 17, 2014 09:50
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Despite what they might say, everyone loves a dodgy decision.
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Jun 17, 2014 09:54
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A soccer match is no democracy and the king is the ref. That's an important premise you have to make in order to appreciate soccer.
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Jun 17, 2014 10:12
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gabensraum posted:I should probably put this straight into the Bad Post thread but I am sincere, and I'd just like to get people's opinions. I have a problem with the low scoreline, but not for reasons of entertainment. Maybe because I'm also a fan of cricket I don't overly care about the result - I love the sport for its games-within-a-game, its technical excellence, the way it's always on a knife edge. And just like cricket I think a draw is the correct result for two evenly-matched teams. I have no time for arguments that more goals are required for entertainment reasons. Honestly, the low score line makes it more exciting. A fluke goal can win a game and cause an upset. The Ref having the final say also makes it good. Think of it this way- if a call goes your way, you wouldnt be upset. Vice versa is true. It also helps the continuity of play which is imperative to the sport. Since play doesnt stop and reset every few seconds, it works. Imagine having to do a free kick every time a call was made to review it. Itd be boring. Give it time, it will grow on you and make more sense as time goes on
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gabensraum posted:I should probably put this straight into the Bad Post thread but I am sincere, and I'd just like to get people's opinions. I have a problem with the low scoreline, but not for reasons of entertainment. Maybe because I'm also a fan of cricket I don't overly care about the result - I love the sport for its games-within-a-game, its technical excellence, the way it's always on a knife edge. And just like cricket I think a draw is the correct result for two evenly-matched teams. I have no time for arguments that more goals are required for entertainment reasons. It's generally that the solutions would be worse, and it's also important to keep in mind that a lot of penalties happen because an attacking player has gotten the better of a defender and was about to be in a position to score.
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Jun 17, 2014 12:03
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The Mash posted:It all evens out in the end this is all that needs to be said
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I've watched the sport for years, and love it. I've just always been frustrated with this one thing, and only in knockout comps.blue footed boobie posted:It's generally that the solutions would be worse, and it's also important to keep in mind that a lot of penalties happen because an attacking player has gotten the better of a defender and was about to be in a position to score. This makes a lot of sense, thanks. In Australian football we say "take the umpires out of the equation", meaning that if you score enough it won't matter if the decisions go against you. It had seemed to me that in World football it's tough to do, but you've made me see it differently - you take them out of the equation by not letting them into the box. I can live with that.
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This video has been posted to death, but it's a good idea IMO for sockah newbies with questions about diving and penalties to watch this for some background: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hXMehv29jZw&feature=kp
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Jun 17, 2014 13:03
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I want to see an indirect free kick in the box this world cup
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Jose posted:I want to see an indirect free kick in the box this world cup This thread will utterly explode
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Jun 17, 2014 13:28
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I'm glad that our American cousins got to experience the thrill of a last gasp match winning goal in a competitive tournament.
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Jun 17, 2014 14:38
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We also had one four years ago in an even shittier game against a shittier team that won us the group.
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Jun 17, 2014 14:54
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I just realized that this could likely be two world cups in a row where the US goes further than England.
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Lemon posted:Despite what they might say, everyone loves a dodgy decision. I just realized we may never get another ridiclous bullshit goal/disallowed goal ever again, at least as far as the world cup is concerned. (And that I did love it.) gently caress.
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Jun 17, 2014 19:11
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the posted:I just realized that this could likely be two world cups in a row where the US goes further than England. England and the US were both knocked out in the round of 16 in the last world cup though
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Jun 17, 2014 19:16
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Spiller posted:England and the US were both knocked out in the round of 16 in the last world cup though usa wins 1-1
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Kaislioc posted:I just realized we may never get another ridiclous bullshit goal/disallowed goal ever again, at least as far as the world cup is concerned. (And that I did love it.) The goal line tech wouldn't have stopped the hand of god. Or Henry's sinking of the Irish economy.
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Jun 17, 2014 20:07
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What's that generic chant when keeper prepares and then shoots a long ball? Sounds like Wheeeeeeeeee .... Pu-to!
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Jun 17, 2014 20:29
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Doctor Malaver posted:What's that generic chant when keeper prepares and then shoots a long ball? Sounds like Wheeeeeeeeee .... Pu-to! That's exactly what it is
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Lamont Cranston posted:That's exactly what it is Or the english version: YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEE poo poo-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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