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I pay cash too, for four accounts. I'm not enough of a spacejew to effortlessly make 3bn isk each month and I'd rather spend an hour doing real work than several evenings shooting red pluses to pay for my internet spaceships.
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Collateral Damage posted:I pay cash too, for four accounts. I'm not enough of a spacejew to effortlessly make 3bn isk each month and I'd rather spend an hour doing real work than several evenings shooting red pluses to pay for my internet spaceships. Wormholes can help reduce that time by a huge margin.
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Jun 17, 2014 16:33
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ChickenWing posted:I pay cash for my accounts, period. I can't be arsed to rat up a plex and I'm not spacerich or market savvy enough to make money from my existing money - but I'll be goddamned if I'm going to stop training skills. I pay for my account even though I sometimes get plex from the alliance. Work pays for my accounts and papa has to pay for comedy faction fit machariel lossmails somehow.
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I've been sadly playing SWTOR, but just for the galactic starfighter, which I enjoy. I also picked up Titanfall finally because of the Origin sale. It keeps me mostly not as bored. Now if my supercarrier sitters would just sell, I could start playing again. Pubbies are slowly buying them up, but at a slower rate than expected.
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Jun 17, 2014 16:41
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Bedshaped posted:Do you guys switch to paying cash for your accounts when you burn out? I'm getting really bored and I think I might be there soon. If making space-money is something you need to put effort into, it will burn you out pretty quick. I honestly think a lot of Eve's new-player retention issues come from people hearing you can play for free, and then burning out on what a soul-destroying grind that is for a newer player. If 10-bux a month (or whatever your local flavour is) is an amount of money you will notice leaving your account monthly, then you should probably avoid an MMO altogether and work on a real career.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:13
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Artificer posted:I don't hear many MMO players in other games calling their characters "toons," at all. You must not have actually interacted with anyone in those "other" mmos then. Either way it doesn't matter, I won't offend your delicate sensibilities with the "T" word again.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:24
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Duzzy Funlop posted:You got more advice than you had any right to be given and I had such high hopes for you. Oh papa snuggies don't be so melodramatic. They are growing pains.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:26
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IsaoHung posted:You must not have actually interacted with anyone in those "other" mmos then. Yes, people say toon unironically in other MMOS. No, that doesn't give you the perogative to be all uppity because goon culture disdains such pubbie shenanigans. Stop being a pubbie.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:33
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ChickenWing posted:Yes, people say toon unironically in other MMOS. It's probably not going to happen at this rate.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:42
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ChickenWing posted:Yes, people say toon unironically in other MMOS. You're right. I'll straighten out. It was a slip up that won't happen again. Now lets all peacefully return to trying to reach to the 100k ship spins. I'm at 137.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:44
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I too wish to play social videogames with people that I do not understand.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:45
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Glory of Arioch posted:I too wish to play social videogames with people that I do not understand. That's why there is a forum requirement to be met so that people like me (new to SA, don't let the account age fool you) can get to understand the people. I chose the wrong battle and lost, nothing more.
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IsaoHung posted:That's why there is a forum requirement to be met so that people like me (new to SA, don't let the account age fool you) can get to understand the people. I chose the wrong battle and lost, nothing more. You are kind of insufferable. What is your favorite subreddit?
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Jun 17, 2014 17:53
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Everyone who has joined SA over the years has probably taken some time to learn the culture, but why highlight it like this? You said a pubbie word, just move on from it and enjoy the forums. Don't get all defensive about it
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IsaoHung posted:That's why there is a forum requirement to be met so that people like me (new to SA, don't let the account age fool you) can get to understand the people. I chose the wrong battle and lost, nothing more. Oh no you're not getting out of it that easy. Come one everyone, dump on the pubbie. We've still got a good chunk of the page to go 
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IsaoHung posted:That's why there is a forum requirement to be met so that people like me (new to SA, don't let the account age fool you) can get to understand the people. I chose the wrong battle and lost, nothing more. Believe it or not nobody but the most shobon '14s would think you aren't new to SA.
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So, back to spaceships, how do I assertively combat bad comms discipline without sounding like a total dickhead? I want people to listen to me when I give orders but I don't want to be that guy, but I want to shut this stuff down quickly before we do some serious elite pvp in the next couple of weeks.
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In honor of the new YA0 station name, usage violators of the word "toon" (and/or "t00n" and/or "toonie," etc) should all be hellcamped as punishment into the YA0 station and in Simpsonian-fashion be forced to write: "I shall not use the word toon amongst goons." ...at least 100 times in local chat. 
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vyst posted:I picked up FFXIV again and I'm dinkin around in it. I've been playing
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Gnome Shoebuilder posted:shobon '14s Hey, I resemble that remark 
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smg77 posted:You are kind of insufferable. What is your favorite subreddit? Guess the jig is up. It's feminine hygiene.
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After I got in corp last night I threw together a ship I didn't care about and set out to get my hands bloody (which is something I don't think I've ever done before). My first clue that something was off was neutrals docked at the station; I chose to try to engage and kill a neutral before reporting it which is when I was notified that said character was actually blue and that I need to log off and back on to reset standings. It's a good thing I'm terrible at this or there could have been an incident.
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avatarinwin posted:So, back to spaceships, how do I assertively combat bad comms discipline without sounding like a total dickhead? I want people to listen to me when I give orders but I don't want to be that guy, but I want to shut this stuff down quickly before we do some serious elite pvp in the next couple of weeks. Be a dickhead. Tell people you want clear comms. If you're going to allow a bit of chatter, have some 'important information incoming' word that people know means they need to shut the gently caress up (Topgoon uses "check"). Worse comes to worst, find out who the main troublemakers are and get an admin to mute them.
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Siets posted:In honor of the new YA0 station name, usage violators of the word "toon" (and/or "t00n" and/or "toonie," etc) should all be hellcamped as punishment into the YA0 station and in Simpsonian-fashion be forced to write: And then have them write it another 10000 times - 100 times for each time they just wrote "toon" in local 
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ChickenWing posted:Be a dickhead. Tell people you want clear comms. If you're going to allow a bit of chatter, have some 'important information incoming' word that people know means they need to shut the gently caress up (Topgoon uses "check"). Worse comes to worst, find out who the main troublemakers are and get an admin to mute them. This is good advice. Smart people won't need to be told to shut up when the FC starts talking (especially when that FC is Suas) and even regular idiots can generally clam up when they here "CHECK, CHECK" or whatever your phrase is. If someone is being a dumb and making GBS threads up comms to the point where it's interfering with fleet operation, though, don't be afraid to yell at them and call them idiots or just kick them out of the fleet if they don't stop.
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avatarinwin posted:So, back to spaceships, how do I assertively combat bad comms discipline without sounding like a total dickhead? I want people to listen to me when I give orders but I don't want to be that guy, but I want to shut this stuff down quickly before we do some serious elite pvp in the next couple of weeks. Screaming "Shut the gently caress up, you fat nerd" is always a crowdpleaser.
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boodah posted:After I got in corp last night I threw together a ship I didn't care about and set out to get my hands bloody (which is something I don't think I've ever done before). My first clue that something was off was neutrals docked at the station; I chose to try to engage and kill a neutral before reporting it which is when I was notified that said character was actually blue and that I need to log off and back on to reset standings. First you kill them, then you report it. It's easier to defend yourself if there are no witnesses left to testify against you. Oh, and don't shoot them in the back because that means they were running away and then it's second degree murder.
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HappyKitty posted:And then have them write it another 10000 times - 100 times for each time they just wrote "toon" in local Which would be the the penalty for writing o7m8? 56 * number of times?
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smg77 posted:You are kind of insufferable. What is your favorite subreddit? Beat me to the question. Cannon_Fodder posted:Screaming "Shut the gently caress up, you fat nerd" is always a crowdpleaser. This has been an issue for me lately. I'm trying to scout and relay what I'm seeing to fleet and these loving FA neck beards are discussing bullshit and making really cringe worthy jokes. Such a headache.
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elanciano posted:Beat me to the question. Could always just call them "loving FA neck beards."
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Hey guys check out the Goon Meets forum. Someone is seeking advice on how to join the elite spaceship guild GoonWaffe. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3643187 I really think someone should sponsor him.
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CommonShore posted:Could always just call them "loving FA neck beards." As enticing as that idea sounds to me, I prefer to not do things that make me look bigger than the FC, or that I'm trying to be bigger than FC. It's their responsibility to keep comms clear of bullshit anyway.
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Fix Lag posted:First you kill them, then you report it. It's easier to defend yourself if there are no witnesses left to testify against you. Oh, and don't shoot them in the back because that means they were running away and then it's second degree murder. This is exactly what I tried (and failed) to do. Almost shot another friendly with a bounty due to overview settings a few minutes ago as well. So very not good at this space combat thing.
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Voyager I posted:This is good advice. Smart people won't need to be told to shut up when the FC starts talking (especially when that FC is Suas) and even regular idiots can generally clam up when they here "CHECK, CHECK" or whatever your phrase is. I loving love it when an FC locks that poo poo down, preferably in an aggressively over the top manner. Most fleets probably contain a silent majority who wish these fuckers would shut the hell up with their lovely memes and whining about how theres always one guy who wasnt aligned in time for the fleet warp.
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boodah posted:Almost shot another friendly with a bounty due to overview settings a few minutes ago as well. So very not good at this space combat thing. I don't know why CCP even has the bounty option as a thing for the overview settings. I have never once considered shooting someone specifically on the merits of getting a bounty payout in all my years of playing this game, nor have I heard of any of these magical unicorn-cousins, the "bounty hunters" that keep getting mentioned in CCP materials. They should probably take it out at some point. Oh, by the way, the fact that you can find people on the overview and are actually shooting at them is A Good Thing. Keep doing it.
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elanciano posted:As enticing as that idea sounds to me, I prefer to not do things that make me look bigger than the FC, or that I'm trying to be bigger than FC. It's their responsibility to keep comms clear of bullshit anyway. If your FC gets pissy over a scout saying "hey guys shut up for a minute, we're talking on command" they're probably not a very good FC.
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elanciano posted:As enticing as that idea sounds to me, I prefer to not do things that make me look bigger than the FC, or that I'm trying to be bigger than FC. It's their responsibility to keep comms clear of bullshit anyway. If you have important information and the FC is not currently giving out more important information then you should be the one talking. It's a judgement call, but you'll eventually learn what's important and what's not. If the FC doesn't let you interrupt his bullshit for important information he's a bad FC and you should find a different one. Also if any FC gets mad that you "look bigger", he's powertripping and you should leave his fleet.
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Griz posted:If your FC gets pissy over a scout saying "hey guys shut up for a minute, we're talking on command" they're probably not a very good FC. Which is why more and more I've been gathering small fleets to harass npc residents rather than go on the ambling roams, short on intel and long on horse poo poo. If I wanted to go 15 jumps with an rear end in a top hat for company I'd just go on a solo roam. Edit: I should clarify I don't think even most FA FC's are poo poo, I'm just a bit starved for competent ones in my play time I think. elanciano fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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