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Intel&Sebastian posted:You guys were in the deep end a decade ago, you're drilling into the Marianas Trench now. They caught him to shut him up before the REAL BENGHAZI investigation uncovered everything.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Taking bets now on how this is actually a bad thing, immediately disqualifying "too little too late" and "what convenient timing" as too easy. Choose one or all of the following! A. Obama is trying to deflect blame for Benghazi B. How dare he try to take credit for this when are troops/are FBI are fixing his gently caress ups. C. Where were these troops when our ambassador was being killed by godless heathens Obummer!
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Jun 17, 2014 17:38
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happyhippy posted:Are you American? Cythereal posted:The Republicans' anti-Muslim stance is one of the things that really amuses me. If the Republicans dropped their Islamophobia, traditional Muslims would be an ideal Republican voting bloc. Even just yesterday, waiting in line at an NC-ABC store, this old white guy in front of me said "I was thinkin bout doin a anniversry trip to France, but you know how things ha'gone overseas these last few weeks" like Paris is some kind of war zone because of Obama or Hollande. Everywhere outside of the continental US is now the danger zone, FYI.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:39
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Raskolnikov38 posted:A. Obama is trying to deflect blame for Benghazi Nah, it's just a distraction for the trade of 5 Talibans for 1 Deserter.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:40
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sweart gliwere posted:
True up to a point. Inside the continental US the danger zone comes from ultraright-wing "revolutionaries" and mentally ill people with ready access to guns.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:57
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Iron Crowned posted:Nah, it's just a distraction for the trade of 5 Talibans for 1 Deserter. I had someone tell me that those 5 were behind 9/11.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:59
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:“So America is the child molester in this scenario?” Kelly asked as she started to laugh. “I’m just trying to follow, Dinesh. I think we may have jumped off the deep end.”
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Jun 17, 2014 18:00
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Don't forget all the promises to revoke our healthcare, get us back into Iraq, and trash Hillary for being married to the most beloved president in the last 25 years. And a guy in a squirrel suit.
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Jun 17, 2014 18:12
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 Fox went ahead with the OH NICE TIMING angle. Such sour grapes.
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Jun 17, 2014 18:18
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They're going to do very well in 2014 for purely structural and timing-realted reasons, and from this they will conclude that they don't need to change anything but rather just need to stick to their conservative principles in 2016, and oh ho ho I can't wait to see that.
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Jun 17, 2014 18:21
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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/17/video-heritage-foundations-benghazi-panelists-m/199750 Media Matters posted a video of the Heritage panel on Benghazi that people were discussing a couple pages back. It doesn't match Milbank's description of events very well. In particular Gabrielle's question "Are you American" comes off as genuine rather than spiteful finger pointing. You can still sense the hatred for Muslims simmering beneath the surface, but the exchange isn't as bad as Milbank made it out to be.
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sweart gliwere posted:
To be fair France is currently embroiled in a crippling rail strike so right now is probably not the best time to visit.
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Jun 17, 2014 19:04
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Or he could've been making GBS threads his pants over ISIS rattling their terror saber.
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Typical Pubbie posted:http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/06/17/video-heritage-foundations-benghazi-panelists-m/199750 Yeah, uh, it was the question coming off as genuine which made it seem awful to begin with. You realize that bit, right?
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Jun 17, 2014 19:34
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quote:OBAMA: (godlike echo) When President Kennedy set us on a course for the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn't be worth it. It was gonna be too expensive, it was gonna be too hard, it would take too long. But nobody ignored the science. I don't remember anybody saying that the moon wasn't there or that it was made of cheese. So Rush is saying that's it's wrong for Obama to compare AGW deniers to people who claimed the moon was made of cheese because even though Rush himself is not saying anyone believed the moon was made of cheese, there was a theory about it being made of quicksand so therefore the same thing? And the fact that those people were proved to be wrong doesn't seem to bother him either?
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Jun 17, 2014 19:39
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Islamophobia is a great two-for-one bundle for regressives and fear-mongers. Not only can they stoke Red Scare fears of the enemy within, these enemies are usually people who are visibly ethnic.
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FMguru posted:This is mostly my privilege talking (because its unlikely that if such talk gets out of hand that it'll be my head that gets cracked open), but I'm kind of delighted by all this crazy talk. Every year, another several million Millennials reach voting age - a cohort that's increasingly non-white and non-Christian - and they look around and see one of the two main political parties proudly pulling poo poo like this. Every year that goes by where Republicans cater to the rapidly dwindling electoral sector of scared old white conservatives at the direct expense of appealing to, well, anyone else is another load of bricks with which to build their mausoleum. They just keep digging that hole. They're so trapped in the sealed Fox/Limbaugh information cocoon that they can't even recognize basic facts of demographics - to them, there will always be a nigh-unlimited number of conservative white voters Out There who just need to be energized to go the to polls and then all will be well, for ever and ever, amen. Don't worry, in 20 years they won't need millenial votes. By that point they'll have disenfranchise anybody that doesn't vote Republican so hard they'll just do whatever they want. The GOP isn't stupid. They see the writing on the wall. They're trying to court Hispanic votes while doing their damnedest to not only gerrymander everything mercilessly but prevent people they don't like from having a vote at all. Incarceration rates are climbing, poverty rates are climbing, and they're working on making it more inconvenient to vote.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Don't worry, in 20 years they won't need millenial votes.
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Yep NASA had no idea what the surface of the moon was like, I mean it's not like we landed two dozen or so probes on the loving thing before Apollo 11 was even being built. 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:doing their damnedest to not only gerrymander everything mercilessly Only works to a point and once a gerrymander breaks it breaks hard. quote:Incarceration rates are climbing Declining since 2008. quote:poverty rates are climbing Declining since 2009. quote:and they're working on making it more inconvenient to vote. They already passed voter ID and it had minimal effect.
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Beamed posted:Yeah, uh, it was the question coming off as genuine which made it seem awful to begin with. You realize that bit, right? Come on, don't make me defend a bigot. The way Gabrielle framed the question was different from the way Milbank portrayed it in his write-up. There's no need to exaggerate the vitriol of these people; let it speak for itself.
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I watched it and I would've been offended as gently caress, like what do you think I'm doing? Taking a vacation in America so I can come get heckled at a Heritage Foundation islamophobia fest? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfrhiaPEq2s "Good news there...I guess" It's loving Bergdahl all over again. GIVE US CANDY GIVE US CANDY GIVE US CANDY GIVE US CANDY WHOA HEY gently caress YOU TRYING TO RUIN MY TEETH WITH CANDY! THIS MAN IS ATTACKING ME AND TRYING TO MAKE ME UNHEALTHY!
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Mr Interweb posted:So Rush is saying that's it's wrong for Obama to compare AGW deniers to people who claimed the moon was made of cheese because even though Rush himself is not saying anyone believed the moon was made of cheese, there was a theory about it being made of quicksand so therefore the same thing? Probes had already been sent to the Moon by the time of the Apollo mission and we'd established early on that the surface was suitable to land on. The crew of Apollo 11 was more concerned with landing on large boulders or at a weird angle than they were with sinking into the soil.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Don't worry, in 20 years they won't need millenial votes. By that point they'll have disenfranchise anybody that doesn't vote Republican so hard they'll just do whatever they want. The GOP isn't stupid. They see the writing on the wall. They're trying to court Hispanic votes while doing their damnedest to not only gerrymander everything mercilessly but prevent people they don't like from having a vote at all. Incarceration rates are climbing, poverty rates are climbing, and they're working on making it more inconvenient to vote.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/harry-reid-gop-reaction-benghazi-suspect-capturequote:"It doesn't matter what your ideology is, you should feel good about this. There’s no conspiracy here, this is actual news. But the reaction of some of the Republicans, I’ve been told, is to downplay and insult the brave men and women of our special forces and the FBI. They’re trying to say, oh, it’s no big deal. I wonder if the men and women who captured the terrorist agree. But the Republicans said it's no big deal. Even in these days of polarization, created by the obstruction, the delay, and diversion of the Republicans, even in these days of polarization, their reaction is shocking and disgusting. They’re so obsessed with criticism, criticizing anything President Obama does. They’ll go so far as to sit here and insult the men and women in uniform and in law enforcement. They should stop and think, just for a little bit, about what it’s like to put your life on the line and to do something for our country -- that’s what they did. They’re insulting these good men and women who did some courageous things, heroic things, in order to criticize President Obama. I think they’ve lost touch with reality; it’s really pathetic, there’s no other word for it." I hope Reid never leaves office, dude is hilarious.
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Sir Tonk posted:I hope Reid never leaves office, dude is hilarious.
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His move on Romney where he said an anonymous source told him his taxes were crooked as gently caress was hilariously evil. It would never have worked if Mitt wasn't already setting himself up for a fall by thinking his tax returns mattered more to him than his campaign but it was still a sweet move.
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Jun 17, 2014 22:08
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 Because there's just no way that any company could be interested in marketing to an until recently ignored demographic while getting some positive social media attention at the same time. No, airing a graham cracker commercial featuring a gay couple is obviously all about attacking conservatives. Everything that isn't explicitly conservative is about attacking conservatives, after all. When you get to the point where a commercial featuring a happy couple eating graham crackers is a "taunt", you've really got some serious thinking and reflecting to do.
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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/glenn-beck-has-explanation-any-outcome-iraq I like that beck isnt even pretending anymore, no matter how it ends, obama is satan and glenn beck is the prophet of god.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:No, airing a graham cracker commercial featuring a gay couple is obviously all about attacking conservatives. Everything that isn't explicitly conservative is about attacking conservatives, after all.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:
These are the same people that claim Christians in the US are persecuted for their beliefs. Don't look too far into it.
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Mr Interweb posted:So Rush is saying that's it's wrong for Obama to compare AGW deniers to people who claimed the moon was made of cheese because even though Rush himself is not saying anyone believed the moon was made of cheese, there was a theory about it being made of quicksand so therefore the same thing? Extra dumb because one of the objectives of the unmanned landing probes before Apollo 11 was to rule out this possibility. Science: I don't understand it, does anyone really understand it???
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Science: I don't understand it, does anyone really understand it??? 
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Is there any good article about who exactly the five Taliban guys we traded are? The claims people on the right are making about them are getting more and more wild. Oliver North today on Medved claimed they were responsible for the deaths of over 250,000 people.
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Republicans posted:Is there any good article about who exactly the five Taliban guys we traded are? The claims people on the right are making about them are getting more and more wild. Oliver North today on Medved claimed they were responsible for the deaths of over 250,000 people. I didn't know North was the jealous type.
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So apparently it's a thing that Hillary had to defend a child rapist as a public defender at the beginning of her career and did her job. linkquote:Newly discovered audio recordings of Hillary Clinton from the early 1980s include the former first lady’s frank and detailed assessment of the most significant criminal case of her legal career: defending a man accused of raping a 12-year-old girl. quote:Comments are currently
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I was wondering what people were talking about on Facebook. It's even dumber than I thought.
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loving CONSTITUTION IS UN-AMERICAN 
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paranoid randroid posted:I'm reasonably sure I've worked with that Saba Ahmed and she is the nicest woman on the planet. Do you think she still is after today? If not, realistically what is the breaking point for someone like that?
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Rip Testes posted:You know the above sounds like a joke, but I actually went to SAS training in DC taught by some former Columbia professor who's now and a consultant and also public health worker for the UN that appeared to doubt the evidence for climate change and cited the lack of a control earth as a legitimate issue. It's also the exact same argument they used for why the Bush tax cuts raised revenue. Even though revenue fell, it fell by LESS than it would have had they not passed the tax cuts. At least they've started to drop the Laffer curve nonsense and just come out and say that they are actively opposed to raising revenue.
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