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What's the best non-abrasive poo poo for wiping down pads and gloves after sessions? That won't destroy the leather, obviously. And if you were wondering the curved fairtex Thai pads are fantastic. They're only slightly curved its not as drastic as some of the ones you see Or how important is it really. Just hour long sessions nothing crazy. I never really wipes down my gloves and the leather is still in good shape. Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Christoff posted:What's the best non-abrasive poo poo for wiping down pads and gloves after sessions? That won't destroy the leather, obviously. I once got a staph infection on my wrist from not properly cleaning my boxing gloves back when I was a teenager, clean your poo poo. Some diluted rubbing alcohol should do the trick.
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Jun 17, 2014 04:41
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I once got a staph infection on my wrist from not properly cleaning my boxing gloves back when I was a teenager, clean your poo poo. Some diluted rubbing alcohol should do the trick. Same here, actually with kneepads. Got a nasty breakout from my boxing gloves after pulling them out of storage. In straight grappling is the russian tie something I should go for fairly often in response to someone trying to clinch/tie up with me standing? I can usually get tie with decent posture, but I'm having trouble getting the shoulder pressure fast enough to stop them from standing out of it. Bad example of what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaMPLxoFPVo. I look a lot like the guy demonstrating, where I can't break their posture via executing the tie fast enough to get very much offense on anyone who isn't complete poo poo.
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Jun 17, 2014 15:49
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Eat Bum Zen posted:Same here, actually with kneepads. Got a nasty breakout from my boxing gloves after pulling them out of storage. If they're posturing up hard after the drag then just drop the arm and shoot a sweep single on that side.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:09
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Ligur posted:I've posted about this earlier, but we've had a few people with TKD past show up and they are funny. Like, really nice people, but also, when someone, somewhere close to them (not necessarily AT them) throws a kick they *ZIP* IMMEDIATELY DROP THEIR HANDS and start a weird cross-step shuffle to prepare a neat kick. Or perhaps to confuse. I am not sure. We had a black belt TKD guy join our karate gym, nicest guy, ripped as hell, great kicks. We taught him to keep his hands up and throw an okay reverse punch and threw him into the white belt divisions in tournaments.  Our little wrecking ball. He's been improving his karate in leaps and bounds too.Ultragonk posted:Hello, I've been thinking about taking up a martial art and my local gym has shotokan karate classes that fit my schedule. Has anyone here had any experience with shotokan karate (Probably a stupid question)? What do you think of it? I currently do historical fencing but fancy adding something more without weapons, though we do a little grappling in he fencing school. It depends on what you're looking for. I've done it for the past half decade, only just stopped because I moved away from my gym and my sensei. I explained to the thread earlier that by the end I was kinda sticking with it only because I really liked the sensei. As with anything, the style doesn't matter much if the coach is terrible. Overall you're looking at something that blends meditative and exercise forms with a practical, sporty element. That said, shotokan tourney rules are pretty restrictive and uniquely subject to judge's decision, which is mostly why I'm bailing out. However, this means a competition with karate won't leave you bloody, broken, incapacitated and concussed, for the most part. I've seen kick induced barfing, mildly broken noses, but nothing too serious. (The forms, kata, are arguably more dangerous. Pay attention to your form or you might end up loving your knees/ankles.) That said, I don't regret it, it's a lot of fun and they do some things you don't get out of other styles. Depending on what you're looking for, it could be exactly what you want. I posted this just a bit back but here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ywqKAnDJXE A nice thing that cuts kata and karate style kumite next to Machida performing the same techniques in MMA fights.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:38
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Ligur posted:If it's located nicely just go there and do some workouts, and if you like it, do it more. It is in a great location for me it's just 10 minutes walk from my house so travel wouldn't be a factor. Yeah I'm mid 30s so I'm not looking for a new career in blocking kicks with my face. Thanks for the advice. the JJ posted:It depends on what you're looking for. I've done it for the past half decade, only just stopped because I moved away from my gym and my sensei. I explained to the thread earlier that by the end I was kinda sticking with it only because I really liked the sensei. As with anything, the style doesn't matter much if the coach is terrible. Thanks, that's interesting, I'm not 100% sure what I want out of it at the moment I'm thinking of it more as a hobby. That isn't to say I won't take it seriously I think of my fencing as a hobby and I take that quite seriously.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:51
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Mechafunkzilla posted:If they're posturing up hard after the drag then just drop the arm and shoot a sweep single on that side. Yeah, that's my response. I'm just bothered that I can't get the clinch locked down to where I can do what I want (milkshake transition). Thankes doe.
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Jun 17, 2014 18:13
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Ultragonk posted:It is in a great location for me it's just 10 minutes walk from my house so travel wouldn't be a factor. Yeah I'm mid 30s so I'm not looking for a new career in blocking kicks with my face. Thanks for the advice. Well, it probably won't hurt to try, and it's a pretty good hobby TMA as far as TMA's go.
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Jun 17, 2014 18:27
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I've been looking to get into boxing for a while. I live on the northwest side of Chicago, and I'm struggling to find a reasonably priced gym anywhere near me. I found one that has two classes a week for $100/mo. Is this a reasonable price? I used to do judo, but I'm really new to boxing, and not totally sure how to approach it. I'm checking out a class at that place this week, but I figured I'd ask around first.
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Jun 17, 2014 19:28
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I reccommend going to a boxing club and doing judo at them
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Jun 17, 2014 19:42
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Dr. Platypus posted:
As with any new MA, regardless of your background: Approach with a completely open mind and do as you're asked.
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Jun 17, 2014 20:34
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ImplicitAssembler posted:As with any new MA, regardless of your background: Approach with a completely open mind and do as you're asked. That's pretty much what I was planning. I have zero idea about striking. I was more wondering if $100 for 2/wk is a good price.
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Jun 17, 2014 20:44
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Dr. Platypus posted:That's pretty much what I was planning. I have zero idea about striking. I was more wondering if $100 for 2/wk is a good price. $100/mo seems about average I guess.
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Jun 17, 2014 20:50
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My sambo club is $150/month for 2 days of training a week, for comparison. That's New York City though.
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Jun 18, 2014 00:02
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How many hours a week do you all train? I'm slowly ramping up for my match in September. Thinking 10hrs a week until July and the maybe 15-20?
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Jun 18, 2014 00:54
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Eat Bum Zen posted:How many hours a week do you all train? I'm slowly ramping up for my match in September. Thinking 10hrs a week until July and the maybe 15-20? You must be a very young man. I think I tweaked my shoulder just reading this post.
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Jun 18, 2014 00:56
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Mechafunkzilla posted:You must be a very young man. I think I tweaked my shoulder just reading this post. Supposedly I should be training at the MMA gym for like 3+hrs 6x a week with sparring and rolling on top of weight training I do on my own time.
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Jun 18, 2014 01:02
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Eat Bum Zen posted:Supposedly I should be training at the MMA gym for like 3+hrs 6x a week with sparring and rolling on top of weight training I do on my own time.  Are you planning on making a career out of professional MMA, or are you a hobbyist?
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Jun 18, 2014 01:05
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Mechafunkzilla posted:
Hobbyist, I just reaaaally don't want to lose in front of my hometown.
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Jun 18, 2014 01:16
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Eat Bum Zen posted:Hobbyist, I just reaaaally don't want to lose in front of my hometown. I would say 10 hours a week would be at the upper end of what you should reasonably be doing without access to things like daily massage and ice baths.
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Jun 18, 2014 01:18
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I would say 10 hours a week would be at the upper end of what you should reasonably be doing without access to things like daily massage and ice baths. I'm listening to this guy. So should most of ya'll.
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Jun 18, 2014 01:55
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I would say 10 hours a week would be at the upper end of what you should reasonably be doing without access to things like daily massage and ice baths. Huh, poo poo. I have been feeling pretty tired.
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Jun 18, 2014 01:59
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I know its not much of an achievement but I am going for my yellow belt in judo today. I have my throws, chokes, arm locks and turnovers down but am a little unsure about the escapes. Anyone know of a good online resource for last minute revision?
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Jun 18, 2014 02:59
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I'm the new president of my canadian province's amateur boxing association. I was elected at the AGM tonight. Kinda psyched and scared at the same time. e: this is probably my last post before I become an 80s baseball player
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Jun 18, 2014 06:08
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Jesus Christ MA clubs are expensive in the states. Here my club has a membership fee of €20 and a training month is like €30-40 depending on if you are a student etc.
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Jun 18, 2014 06:50
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Eat Bum Zen posted:Huh, poo poo. I have been feeling pretty tired. You can train twice a day six days a week... if you have a terrific base from your youth, take the correct supplements with your otherwise awesome nutrition, sleep a whole lot, and do that as a job (with a training staff). Mix in office hours, school, kids and whatever and oh boy you're not doing yourself any favours. For normal people, even avid hobbyists, a good rule of thumb is that less is more. If you can train something every other day while being well rested and functional you're better off then training it every day feeling so stiff and sore you need the first 60 minutes just to limber up, to put it roughly. As an example our national team guys/girls often train just one thing, which is striking, 4-5 days a week, 1,5 - 2 hours at a time. Some go jogging or cycle on the side, or mix in the odd gym session. And they never lose fights because of their lack of conditioning. If I train 1 hours a day, so that's 7 hours a week, it's already pushing my not-so-young body to a limit.
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Jun 18, 2014 10:30
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General Emergency posted:Jesus Christ MA clubs are expensive in the states. Here my club has a membership fee of €20 and a training month is like €30-40 depending on if you are a student etc. Most of the cost of running a decent ma school in the states is liability insurance.
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Jun 18, 2014 12:02
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Wrageowrapper posted:I know its not much of an achievement but I am going for my yellow belt in judo today. I have my throws, chokes, arm locks and turnovers down but am a little unsure about the escapes. Anyone know of a good online resource for last minute revision? Awesome! What holds are you supposed to be escaping or what about your escapes are you unsure about? I'm not sure of a good specific reference but maybe someone here can give you some pointers.
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Jun 18, 2014 13:52
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Wrageowrapper posted:I know its not much of an achievement but I am going for my yellow belt in judo today. I have my throws, chokes, arm locks and turnovers down but am a little unsure about the escapes. Anyone know of a good online resource for last minute revision? Youtube or Judoinfo.
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Jun 18, 2014 15:15
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Christoff posted:What's the best non-abrasive poo poo for wiping down pads and gloves after sessions? That won't destroy the leather, obviously. Glad you like the pads. Fairtex is pricey, but the quality is very noticeable. Compared to the gym's stock pads, the Fairtex ones are so easy to use for both the pad holder and the striker. Bought a second pair of Fairtex gloves for sparring since I bought a 12oz pair when I started Muay Thai. Then I found out that sparring with 12oz gloves is a dick move. At least I can still use them for bagwork and stuff. --- Sparring chat. I really need to start filming myself when I spar. I'm getting better, but still getting tagged by shots. I can deal with bum rushers a bit better. I'm actually having the opposite problem. I can reach peoples' faces with my jab and cross. But if I try something like a jab to face -> cross to the body, I either whiff the body shot (I fall short of the body). Or, I get tagged when throwing the cross. I guess trying body shots from a longer range isn't smart? I really want to get better at attacking the body because I've noticed hardly anyone defends the body. They're always preoccupied with defending the head. I also seem to get tagged with hooks all the time. Even when I have my hands up. Ugh! Not sure how they sneak through. Luckily, my sparring partners are a friendly, helpful bunch. They've pointed out that I do things like lean my head forward as I punch. And that when I'm scrapping close in with someone who managed to close the distance to me, I tend to cover up (good!), but, I look at the ground instead of continuing to look up at my opponent (bad!). Going to be hard to break that habit. :/
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Jun 18, 2014 15:32
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Dolemite posted:Glad you like the pads. Fairtex is pricey, but the quality is very noticeable. Compared to the gym's stock pads, the Fairtex ones are so easy to use for both the pad holder and the striker. It sounds like you might need to work on keeping your feet under you and your base a lil more controlled when you spar.
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Jun 18, 2014 16:25
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Dolemite posted:They've pointed out that I do things like lean my head forward as I punch. And that when I'm scrapping close in with someone who managed to close the distance to me, I tend to cover up (good!), but, I look at the ground instead of continuing to look up at my opponent (bad!). Going to be hard to break that habit. :/ Until you stop leaning into your punches you will never become semi-decent in sparring (moving your head out of the center-line while punching is a different thing and requires a step). Also why you get tagged when you try body crosses? Here: I'm 95% sure you lean forwards a bit while throwing a jab, and then while leaning forwards and possibly also downwards at the same time, throw the right cross (a shorter punch than the jab to begin with, so you need more reach, so you lean) - leaving your face completely exposed. I've seen that quite a bit over the years, y0. Wanna tag the body? Feint the jab from closer up than necessary for a regular jab connect and immediately, while returning your jab to the front of your face, drop your head and weight DOWN, raise your right shoulder (assuming you are a righty) and twist your hips and right shoulder to drop the terrific right cross to the body. Or just use the right cross to the body as your first punch. Forget the jab, drop your weight and your head, rise the shoulder, keep your left hand up, and throw the body shot. Leaning? That's a really difficult thing to crack for some people. Practice it shadow-boxing, pref with a mirror. Throw long punching combinations and watch yourself. Throw some sick long combination like jab, cross, hook, uppercut, hook, cross, body hook x 2 and a jab with a backstep and watch your head. Was your head basically in place while throwing, only moving when you were shifting weight or dropping weight for hooks and uppercuts? If so, good. If not and you see your head follow along with the punches, especially straights, you were leaning, not punching, and leaving yourself open for counters which really smart... because you are leaning into them. Kinda like what Eat Bum Zen said. But with more words. And do balance training so you don't over extend when you punch and fall on your face or at a fist.
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Jun 18, 2014 18:16
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n3rdal3rt posted:Awesome! What holds are you supposed to be escaping or what about your escapes are you unsure about? I'm not sure of a good specific reference but maybe someone here can give you some pointers. When I got there it turned out I didn't need any escapes after all but rather some move past the legs maneuvers instead. Hadn't practiced them in ages but thankfully I remembered what to do and got the grade anyway.
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Ligur posted:Leaning? That's a really difficult thing to crack for some people. Practice it shadow-boxing, pref with a mirror. Throw long punching combinations and watch yourself. Throw some sick long combination like jab, cross, hook, uppercut, hook, cross, body hook x 2 and a jab with a backstep and watch your head. Was your head basically in place while throwing, only moving when you were shifting weight or dropping weight for hooks and uppercuts? If so, good. If not and you see your head follow along with the punches, especially straights, you were leaning, not punching, and leaving yourself open for counters which really smart... because you are leaning into them. My old serbian coach at my gym saw me leaning into my cross while hitting the bag and instantly corrected it, I wish I remembered what he said because I wish all my problems were corrected as easily as he corrected that one. My hook is still loving garbage, for example.
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Jun 19, 2014 01:40
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Geno Petralli posted:My old serbian coach at my gym saw me leaning into my cross while hitting the bag and instantly corrected it, I wish I remembered what he said because I wish all my problems were corrected as easily as he corrected that one. The only thing that helped me realise what I was doing wrong was watching videos of Joe Frazier enter to throw punches his shuffling entries always meant he could throw bombs and his subtle movement kept him well protected. Bj Penn circa the Diego Sanchez fight was really quite good at it as well. Sounds like you need to work for a while moving and controlling your posture a tennis ball on a rope can help with that because you can start to shift yourself around it as it swings back toward you and if you over commit without a bag to stop your momentum it throws off your weight and makes it obvious where you're having dramas. I had to spend a good month every night with my feet tied and an softball under my chin circling a loving tennis ball to get me out of my bad habits.
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Jun 19, 2014 01:54
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BlindSite posted:The only thing that helped me realise what I was doing wrong was watching videos of Joe Frazier enter to throw punches his shuffling entries always meant he could throw bombs and his subtle movement kept him well protected. We have a maize bag to duck, dodge and dive. My problem with the hook isn't that I'm not holding my stance, it's that I'm holding it too rigidly and I need to throw my body into it. I have to twist my front ankle like I'm putting out a cigarette but when I get tired, I throw it with just my arm.
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Jun 19, 2014 02:42
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Geno Petralli posted:We have a maize bag to duck, dodge and dive. My problem with the hook isn't that I'm not holding my stance, it's that I'm holding it too rigidly and I need to throw my body into it. I have to twist my front ankle like I'm putting out a cigarette but when I get tired, I throw it with just my arm. My left (forehand) hook is my fav punch these days, with my left uppercut. But my right hook  There are a few doctrines with the hook. One is first turning your ankle, then your hips, then your side, then your shoulder, and at the last possible moment let your fist fly off from your jawline while shifting your weight from one foot to the other. I also like throwing the Mexican style Gancho with my thumb up and seriously turning my body before letting my fist follow, which creates a really snappy sling effect. Kinda like when throwing a baseball really hard, your body and shoulder commits first, your hand is simply a loose rope which connects your fist or the ball to your body and catapults it at the face of some unfortunate person. Then there's the style wherein you don't turn your ankle, but start twisting your hips first  The leg and ankle twist sort naturally follows your hips. We have one instructor who never turns his leg but makes it work wonderfully. Then there's the tired me, who has tweaked his lower back at least twice trying to hook the head off someone who ducks out of the way. When you forget to twist your leg and hips (being too rigid, like you mention) the torque on your back is fearsome.
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Jun 19, 2014 10:53
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I would say 10 hours a week would be at the upper end of what you should reasonably be doing without access to things like daily massage and ice baths. 15 years ago I was pretty serious about my karate, I trained four times a week totalling 9 hours and that seemed plenty even for a teenager with little else to do. Now I'm old and don't given a poo poo 3-4 hours is the sweet spot. Also my judo club is 3 quid for two hours. 
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Dysgenesis posted:
Goddamn I wish I had that, I really want to try Judo but the nearest club that I've found is a fair trek away and definitely more expensive than £3....
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I really don't understand how people can really train 15 hours a week if you have a real life/real job and actually train hard. It might be because I'm "old" (29) or judo is more taxing on the body due to falls or I don't know what, but when I train 6-7 hours of judo a week with 2 days of weightlifting and anywhere between 1 and 3 days of cardio a week, my body can barely keep up. May be I don't sleep/eat enough or am a big sissy?
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