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Discomancer posted:that poo poo look like a anime bike Close enough 
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captainOrbital posted:I periodically become obsessed with the idea of a V-Max (current gen) and the ownership thereof. Something about a 1700cc, 200-hp Yamaha cruiser is just so compelling. Slap a big windshield and some saddlebags on that rear end and lay down 1's into the sunset. If it actually had 200hp that'd be nice.
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Jun 17, 2014 04:20
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Lynza posted:Arguably I was in the car and looking over at it, so maybe it just looked little? I wasn't trying to insult anyone's motostud cred. I also meant just size-wise, not power-wise. It looked little from where I was sitting. This is really funny. I'm like 6'2" and objectively fat, and the Uly is whopping gigantic compared to every other bike I've ridden (except for the Goldwing). My motostud-cred remains undamaged. I'm honestly impressed.
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Jun 17, 2014 06:00
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Maybe she saw a normal Lightning? Those are tiny.
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Jun 17, 2014 16:37
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mguirk the jerk posted:Thanks for the info. It actually does include heated grips and a powerlet, but the guy forgot to mention them. Regardless I ended up with a clean 2006 K1200S at a price I couldn't refuse. I'll be picking her up next weekend, doing a once-over at the mechanic's, and headed from PA to visit my dad's gravesite in Florida for July 4 weekend. The bike has the rails for BMW's expanding hard luggage but the bags are $800 so gently caress that. I bought some used RKA soft bags on the bay for $100 and then I'll pick up a seat bag at Revzilla. Done. Congrats. Is that smack in the middle of the vintage of the final drive bearing woes or where they worked out then?
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Jun 17, 2014 17:50
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Slavvy posted:If it actually had 200hp that'd be nice. It has like 197 or something (at the crank). I'm sure with some mild exhaust fuckery (or something) you could find 3 BHP.
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Jun 17, 2014 19:25
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captainOrbital posted:It has like 197 or something (at the crank). I'm sure with some mild exhaust fuckery (or something) you could find 3 BHP. According to everything I can find on the net it has 170-odd at the crank...
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Jun 17, 2014 23:08
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I just looked at a bunch of dyno charts and they all seem to hover around 170-odd at the wheel. Factor drivetrain loss (shafts are inefficient) and I can see 200ish crank powers.Rider Magazine posted:Its all-new V-4 grew to 1,679cc and claimed output at the crank increased to 200 horsepower—later downgraded to 197 but still enough to be the most powerful production motorcycle of the day.
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Jun 17, 2014 23:57
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That honestly surprises me because there's no way a bike with that much grunt should be slower than the Diavel. Also disagrees with a bunch of magazines I've read.
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Jun 18, 2014 01:31
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Shorter wheelbase, less than ideal gearing, maybe?
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Jun 18, 2014 02:15
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The Diavel has a 160lb advantage, too.
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Jun 18, 2014 16:30
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Suspicious Package posted:Does it make me a hipster if I kind of want a SR400? Price seems a little high for what it is, but I like the look, and it's different than most of the other bikes I see on the road these days (I'm in the US). I'm glad you mentioned this I hadn't even heard of it. I have an illogical love of kickstarters  I can't find a horsepower spec for it. It'll probably be a dog at interstate speeds but I guess that isn't the point of the bike.
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Jun 18, 2014 16:53
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Slavvy posted:That honestly surprises me because there's no way a bike with that much grunt should be slower than the Diavel. Also disagrees with a bunch of magazines I've read. There's also the previous-gen V-Max which had like a liter or something.
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Jun 18, 2014 17:32
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ADINSX posted:I'm glad you mentioned this I hadn't even heard of it. I have an illogical love of kickstarters It makes 23 horsepower. You might be better off on an actual horse. They also go when you kick them I hear.
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Jun 18, 2014 17:35
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M. Night Skymall posted:It makes 23 horsepower. You might be better off on an actual horse. They also go when you kick them I hear. It looks like it weighs 384 lb. I guess this would put it around a ninja 250 in power to weight ratio? Even though I'm looking at beginner bikes, it would be nice to have enough power to make the highway tolerable. I think the biggest problem here is they want $6000 for it. The Suzuki tu250x has a similar style for around $4400 new, with probably only a few horsepower less.
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Jun 18, 2014 18:27
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Ninja 250 is more like 30 horsepower and 360 pounds. I don't fully grasp the concept of a non-dirtbike with a single cylinder.
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Jun 18, 2014 18:30
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I don't fully grasp the concept of a non-car with an I4... but it's just another way to get torque to the wheel. Like any config, there are advantages to thumpers, like maintenance complexity. The SR400 has 4 valves and one throttle body that doesn't need to be synced with any others. Fewer bearings, fewer conrods, fewer parts. With an engine that gutless, you probably aren't going to be eating up chains and cheap tires very quickly either. I think the folks who deride its price haven't been paying attention to new bike prices over the past few years. Everything except a new Strom is too expensive.
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Jun 18, 2014 19:25
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clutchpuck posted:I don't fully grasp the concept of a non-car with an I4... but it's just another way to get torque to the wheel. You honestly think a CB500 is too expensive in a world where the SR400 costs MORE?
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Jun 18, 2014 20:39
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M. Night Skymall posted:It makes 23 horsepower. You might be better off on an actual horse. They also go when you kick them I hear. How is it even possible to make that little power?!?!?!?! What does a Grom make? Edit: a Grom makes 9ish horsepower
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Jun 18, 2014 21:09
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ShaneB posted:You honestly think a CB500 is too expensive in a world where the SR400 costs MORE? Everything is too expensive. I'm not putting relative value judgements on anything but the Strom here.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:10
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tbb9 posted:How is it even possible to make that little power?!?!?!?! I don't understand how you can enjoy riding that thing (I get how you might like how it looks). It must lose roll on power in 3rd
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Jun 18, 2014 21:11
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Razzled posted:I don't understand how you can enjoy riding that thing (I get how you might like how it looks). It must lose roll on power in 3rd I rode a 14hp 250 for a few months, and it was an absolute blast. Bieks are fun, and that's all there is to it.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:15
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I wonder why they didn't reintroduce the almost identical SR500 instead; still having to release a 400cc model for Japanese tax reasons?
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Jun 18, 2014 21:16
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Razzled posted:I don't understand how you can enjoy riding that thing (I get how you might like how it looks). It must lose roll on power in 3rd I'd imagine it's like riding a little sm dirtbike you can put plates on I don't think anyone is buying a Grom for 3rd gear pulls
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Jun 18, 2014 21:17
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Razzled posted:I don't understand how you can enjoy riding that thing (I get how you might like how it looks). It must lose roll on power in 3rd Here's a hint: put the helmet on, kick it over, and putt around. That's fun on anything.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:19
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tbb9 posted:I'd imagine it's like riding a little sm dirtbike you can put plates on  but Groms are little and cute! (also I was talking about the SR400 sorry)The SR400 trailer is almost as bad as that hipster video someone posted earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQxyMAdNncc
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Jun 18, 2014 21:24
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Hondas: I would take either a Grom or a Gold Wing. Or both! Put one inside the other!
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Jun 18, 2014 21:26
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I think if you put in context for how cheap you could get a SV650 just before the recession, which is arguably more bike.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:26
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captainOrbital posted:Hondas: I would take either a Grom or a Gold Wing. That would be a pretty cool touring setup...
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Jun 18, 2014 21:45
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Coredump posted:I think if you put in context for how cheap you could get a SV650 just before the recession, which is arguably more bike. Put any current model in context with its pre-recession price and you'll be telling the young punk kids about how good the world used to be. 2006 Sporty 883: $7000 2014 883: $8,250 2006 Strom 650: $6700 2014 Strom 650: $8500 2006 GSX-R600: $8800 2014 GSX-R600: $11,700
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Jun 18, 2014 21:57
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Razzled posted:
Not any worse than the edgy promo for the Ninja: http://youtu.be/jgR93EqDYBU
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Jun 18, 2014 22:48
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Razzled posted:
My god thats terrible. Not for the hipster poo poo but because it looked and sounded like it was filmed in the 90s. I think its a cool little bike, honestly if the fit and finish looked good in person and it came in a cool color I'd consider buying it. edit: It also sounds like a sewing machine in the video, but I'm sure there will be some after market pipes. ADINSX fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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Jun 19, 2014 00:01
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Razzled posted:
You know what this reminds me of? That speech in Regular Cars' review of the Bandit 1250 about trying too hard. Somehow I can see the hipster crowd snubbing the SR400 for the authentic spiritual experience of ruining an old UJM.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:10
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Suspicious Package posted:Not any worse than the edgy promo for the Ninja: http://youtu.be/jgR93EqDYBU Yay Chicago!
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Jun 19, 2014 00:26
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clutchpuck posted:Like any config, there are advantages to thumpers, like maintenance complexity. The SR400 has 4 valves and one throttle body that doesn't need to be synced with any others. Just FYI the SR400 has two valves. You think you are some special need of complex engine? Intake petrol go in, explode, exhaust go out. No more is needed. You think you need three, four, six of cylinders and twenty of valves. No. You fill tank, go ride until tank empty, fill again, do this one hundred of times. Then maybe you have knowledge of riding enough to want more valves in engine. Until then is waste.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:42
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2-valve, even better. You could fix it with a caveman's club.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:50
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Sagebrush posted:You think you are some special need of complex engine? Intake petrol go in, explode, exhaust go out. No more is needed. You think you need three, four, six of cylinders and twenty of valves. No. You fill tank, go ride until tank empty, fill again, do this one hundred of times. Then maybe you have knowledge of riding enough to want more valves in engine. Until then is waste. zen
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Jun 19, 2014 00:50
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captainOrbital posted:Hondas: I would take either a Grom or a Gold Wing. Or put the wing engine in a Grom. Call it the Gromwing!
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Jun 19, 2014 00:51
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I can't find it right now, but I remember seeing someone cramming a 4-cylinder 600cc supersport engine into a pit bike frame. It was more engine than bike and its behavior under power was...interesting.
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Sagebrush posted:Just FYI the SR400 has two valves. I want bike built like AK-47.
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