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Shoren posted:Seychelles 2030! All stadiums will be built on rafts! Waterworld Cup.
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This weeks Private Eye has several stories about Fifa corruption, well worth picking up. Did you know all the world cup tickets are sold via a small office in south Manchester? Also, in relation to Phaedra Almajid's claim to have witnessed a $1.5million bribe to Fifa executives and her subsequent "retraction":quote:His Qatari hosts gave him a copy of what they said was her confession, written in stilted legalistic phrases, in a Word document. If Bond had clicked on the file's "Properties", however, he would have discovered that it had been drafted by a senior partner in the London office of lawyers Olswang. She now says she was coerced into her retraction and it is claimed that the FBI have recordings of threats to her.
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Jun 14, 2014 11:20
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Badger of Basra posted:Why hasn't anyone already done this? It's widely reported that Qatar is basically a slave state. Are India/Nepal too afraid to make a fuss? This is from a few pages back but: the economies of the Philippines and Nepal run on a lot of money flowing in from guest labourers working abroad. Labour is a huge export business especially for the Philippines, and if they start making a fuss about the treatment of their citizens in certain rich oil states, they run the risk of the money hose shutting down. As long as the guest workers get paid just enough to send some of it back home, they won't make a peep. So what if some of them are kept as domestic slaves or worse.
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Jun 14, 2014 12:15
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frankenfreak posted:Reality is even sillier: they send him some questions to answer in English, Beckenbauer asked them to send them in German, they didn't, so he didn't answer them, so they hit him with a ban. That's not true, the guardian said he got the questions in German, too
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Jun 14, 2014 12:33
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serious gaylord posted:He was silly enough to get caught with the watches. That wasn't Beckenbauer. It was Rummenigge.
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Jun 14, 2014 15:24
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You would think a guy like Putin would have a better fitting suit.
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Jun 15, 2014 18:49
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Lladre posted:You would think a guy like Putin would have a better fitting suit. KGB DNA
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Jun 15, 2014 20:09
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England-Italy was a fun preview of what every game will look like in 2022.
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Jun 15, 2014 21:19
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Hahaha of all the WC bids to be investigated, FIFA's ethics guy is investigating England for buying a lavish dinner for delegates from the Caribbean. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/15/fifa-investigates-england-2018-world-cup-bid-payment
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Jun 16, 2014 10:24
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England "deserves" it for the media daring to question FIFA's (and the FA's) conduct during the bid way back when.
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Jun 16, 2014 10:39
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I can't find the quote right now but some law professor said that on the basis of previous form Garcia would find whatever his paymasters wanted him to. He was a Bush appointment and worked on terror cases. He's also banned from entering Russia due to involvement in Guatanamo bay and torture cases, although that is probably more political than anything.
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Jun 16, 2014 11:23
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The results of this investigation will of course be that the English delegation were the only ones who bribed anybody and thusly will be punished. I can't wait.
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Jun 16, 2014 11:34
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Pook Good Mook posted:England-Italy was a fun preview of what every game will look like in 2022. Qatar is a dry heat.
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Jun 16, 2014 12:20
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Dirk Pitt posted:Qatar is a dry heat. In summer it should be but with the Gulf you never know.
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Jun 16, 2014 12:27
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vyelkin posted:Hahaha of all the WC bids to be investigated, FIFA's ethics guy is investigating England for buying a lavish dinner for delegates from the Caribbean. Something that got me from that article (apart from the amusing Beckanbauer bit at the end) was the fact that Guatemala has a FIFA delegate that has a say in where the world cup is hosted. Do they even play football in Guatemala?! It just strikes me as completely mental that lets say a country the size of Barbados (280,000 people) has as much say in where they hold the world cup as a country like Brazil (200,000,000 people) which has almost x1000 more people in it. Or am I being dumb and it doesn't work like this?
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Jun 16, 2014 12:30
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Dravs posted:Something that got me from that article (apart from the amusing Beckanbauer bit at the end) was the fact that Guatemala has a FIFA delegate that has a say in where the world cup is hosted. Do they even play football in Guatemala?! It just strikes me as completely mental that lets say a country the size of Barbados (280,000 people) has as much say in where they hold the world cup as a country like Brazil (200,000,000 people) which has almost x1000 more people in it. That's exactly how it works. Democracy!
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Jun 16, 2014 12:32
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Its one of the reasons FIFA is hosed at doing anything important. Before he got caught bribing everyone Jack Warner had a ridiculous amount of power because all of the CONCACAF members did whatever he wanted giving him a huge amount of votes despite all being poo poo at football
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Jun 16, 2014 12:37
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Maybe it should be like the UN, countries that have won the world cup have veto power.
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Jun 16, 2014 12:49
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*everything gets vetoed because "Las Malvinas son Argentinas"* ah yes
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Jun 16, 2014 13:19
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Dirk Pitt posted:Qatar is a dry heat. "Dry heat" means jack poo poo when the temperature is higher than 45°C
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Jun 16, 2014 13:54
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pointsofdata posted:I can't find the quote right now but some law professor said that on the basis of previous form Garcia would find whatever his paymasters wanted him to. He was a Bush appointment and worked on terror cases. He's also banned from entering Russia due to involvement in Guatanamo bay and torture cases, although that is probably more political than anything. Well, he would have had subpoena power while working for the US Attorney's office. With FIFA, he'll just be reading whatever documents FIFA feel like giving him and talking to the people who are okay with being interviewed.
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Jun 16, 2014 14:07
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Dravs posted:Something that got me from that article (apart from the amusing Beckanbauer bit at the end) was the fact that Guatemala has a FIFA delegate that has a say in where the world cup is hosted. Do they even play football in Guatemala?! It just strikes me as completely mental that lets say a country the size of Barbados (280,000 people) has as much say in where they hold the world cup as a country like Brazil (200,000,000 people) which has almost x1000 more people in it. If they did it by population, China and India (who are also poo poo at football) would basically be able to outvote everyone else.
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Jose posted:Its one of the reasons FIFA is hosed at doing anything important. Before he got caught bribing everyone Jack Warner had a ridiculous amount of power because all of the CONCACAF members did whatever he wanted giving him a huge amount of votes despite all being poo poo at football It's also why Blatter keeps fondling the balls of the African Confederation. The sad truth is that at FIFA you can get anything you want by ignoring Europe and the rest of the 1st World by playing to the developing world's propensity to accept bribes. I'm not trying to be racist as gently caress, it has more to do with the fact that countries like Barbados and Chad don't exactly have a vibrant history of a free and investigative press. Also, in a lot of countries bribes are just the way business is done, it's not strange. Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Jun 16, 2014 17:34
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vyelkin posted:Hahaha of all the WC bids to be investigated, FIFA's ethics guy is investigating England for buying a lavish dinner for delegates from the Caribbean. You have to admire the world class trolling here.
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Jun 16, 2014 17:41
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Dirk Pitt posted:Qatar is a dry heat. It's dry until the end of July, but the Shamal wind blows from May and can make conditions pretty unbearable. Dry heat without the wind can even be pleasant when you're used to it, but you just avoid outdoors altogether from August until mid October.
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Jun 16, 2014 20:28
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Koesj posted:*everything gets vetoed because "Las Malvinas son Argentinas"* ah yes also gibraltar
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Jun 16, 2014 20:43
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Pook Good Mook posted:It's also why Blatter keeps fondling the balls of the African Confederation. The sad truth is that at FIFA you can get anything you want by ignoring Europe and the rest of the 1st World by playing to the developing world's propensity to accept bribes. Yeah, if only 1st world moral stalwarts Platini and Beckenbauer had more power Qatar would never end up with the world cup.
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Jun 17, 2014 02:23
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Maradona wasn't allowed into the Argentina game, says it's because he's badmouthing FIFA.The Guardian posted:Diego Maradona has claimed he was turned away by Fifa officials when he tried to attend Argentina’s World Cup Group F win over Bosnia-Herzegovina with his son Diego Fernando. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/18/diego-maradona-fifa-banned-maracana The show is pretty interesting, by the way. It's called De Zurda, I know Argentina's TV Pública has put a couple full episodes on youtube and you can stream it for free on Telesur's website.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:26
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Perhaps he just tried the wrong door! that's brilliant!
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Jun 18, 2014 23:30
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JFairfax posted:Perhaps he just tried the wrong door! that's brilliant! Unironically the most probable cause.
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Jun 18, 2014 23:35
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Maybe he should've tried it get in with the Chilean fans?
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Jun 19, 2014 11:51
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27868764BBC posted:A £19m film version of Fifa's history, in which president Sepp Blatter is one of the heroes, is opening in Serbia but no plans have been announced for worldwide release. What is going on? Just checked, no it is not April Fools day.
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Jun 19, 2014 15:25
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Cutscene Powers posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27868764 I read a thing about this and apparently they showed Fifa the script before they started shooting and Sepp rewrote huge swathes of it lol
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Jun 19, 2014 15:30
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Hamad bin Khalifa bin Ahmad Al Thani, head of the Qatar Football Association, wrote a piece for the Guardian about how Qatar is amazing and totally the best place to have the World Cup. It's hilarious.quote:Qatar does not have a rich football history. We are a small country. Temperatures are high in the summer. However unfairly, our wealth alone fuels suspicions. But our bid succeeded not because these big questions were ignored but because we provided compelling answers. We turned each challenge to our advantage. We won because our bid was seen as the best. quote:I accept that we spent more money campaigning than other bids, but this was solely to catch up with our better known rivals. We had to tell people about our country and what we could offer, to overcome the perceived obstacles. But from the day we launched our bid to the day our country's name was pulled from the envelope in Zurich, we played strictly by the rules. It is why we are happy to cooperate fully with the Fifa inquiry into the bidding process. We have nothing to hide or fear. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/20/why-qatar-had-strongest-bid-for-2022-fifa-world-cup Of course most of the comments have been removed by moderators.
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Jun 21, 2014 13:54
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Lmao compelling answers. They've gone back on everything they said in the bid
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Jun 21, 2014 13:58
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Cutscene Powers posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27868764 Fuckery in the film industry involving FIFA, who'd have thunk it
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Jun 21, 2014 14:21
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Yes, compelling answers that would require the use of nonexistant future tech. I'm sure that when they were prepping their bid package they probably said to each other "Why should we consult an engineering firm? Your home has a/c, this office has a/c, of course we can air condition our stadiums!"
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Jun 21, 2014 14:30
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Shoren posted:Yes, compelling answers that would require the use of nonexistant future tech. I'm sure that when they were prepping their bid package they probably said to each other "Why should we consult an engineering firm? Your home has a/c, this office has a/c, of course we can air condition our stadiums!" I like to think it wasn't even this well thought through. They got there and Sepp asks how they intend to deal with the temperatures, and they all start looking at each other for an answer until one stammers out "uh, we'll uh, we could, I mean, uh, we can air condition them! They'll be air conditioned. Yeah." and all the other Qataris agree that they had definitely all intended to do that all along.
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Jun 21, 2014 14:41
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Remember there were going to be hovering cloud type things to keep the pitch shaded too or some poo poo? They literally said this.
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I propose holding the 2026 World Cup in Liechtenstein. My bid proposal involves the use of fusion reactors to supercool the stadium, antigravity trains to get you from your hotel to the FIFA Fan Zone, and antimatter sensors in the ball for unparalleled goal line technology. As an aside, we will be providing free Bugatti Veyrons to all FIFA Executive Committee members, but that's just to compensate for the fact that everyone knows all the countries we're competing against are good at hosting tournaments already.
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