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Bubbacub posted:Nah, life must be pretty cozy once you get that far down the rabbit hole. You don't have to think about anything, since you can instantly dismiss anything that's confusing or might make you question your beliefs. See, the problem is that once you get that far down the rabbit hole, you don't just instantly dismiss anything that's confusing or might make you question your beliefs. You instantly dismiss anything.
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I guess Andy just watches Passion of the Christ on endless repeat? If there's not literally a character in every scene of any given movie professing their Christian faith at all times, it's a Godless, Liberal, Atheistic mockery of life. Him and Zizek need to have a discussion about movies.
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Parahexavoctal posted:Forrest is motivated by loyalty, chivalry and a desire to help others. I'd like to know if those are conservative values why they always lie, cheat, betray, dishonor, and scream "gently caress you, got mine". I mean it's almost like they live in this bubble of lies to protect themselves from being shown the true ugliness they all have quote:The quotes and clips I saw from it Well obviously you can draw an accurate summary of the movie/book/*insert subject here* from that and at the same time tell people they can't judge you or your faith by a skim through. SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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Jun 18, 2014 19:03
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Him and Zizek need to have a discussion about movies. I would pay a ridiculous amount of money to see that
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Jun 18, 2014 20:49
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I really get the willies thinking about what his mother must have done to him when he was a child. It must have been worse than being Michael Reagan.
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Jun 18, 2014 21:55
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I guess Andy just watches Passion of the Christ on endless repeat? http://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:Greatest_Conservative_Movies#Debatable_Whether_Conservative posted:
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Jun 18, 2014 22:21
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The line sounds like science proves the shroud of Turin, but he's not wrong that evidence of crucifixions by Romans was done through the wrist, because the hand came off the nails by the bodies weight. Does Andy deny the miracle of Stigmata? Also, wouldn't the shroud of Turin be vile idolatry?
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Jun 18, 2014 22:30
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Andy's Catholic. They fucken love idolatry.
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Jun 18, 2014 22:36
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I noticed the current featured page is Atheist Cults, which includes Jim Jones' followers, communists and Star Trek fans.
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Jun 18, 2014 22:41
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"Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies" is pure gold, even if some of it is just trolls. The Room (2003, R) A tragedy showing the corrosive effects of liberal values like alcoholism and adultery, while reflecting the conservative traits of charity, innovation (in banking) and support for small business.
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quote:Where the USA went wrong in Iraq.[3] teapartycrusaders.com link, so let's see how they blame ALL of this on Ob- quote:When President Bush got us into this war on the basis of the intelligence reports that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, his error was not restricted to erroneous intelligence reports.  They admitted a problem isn't Obama's fault exclusively!? And Conservapedia ran with it? Okay it's about how the Iraqi people just don't value freedom which is kind of weird but they don't blame Obama once. This is too odd. I need good ol' familiarity where's something that- quote:Hillary Clinton: The Bible Is My "Biggest Influence."[7] Jesus warned about wolves in sheep's clothing. There we go. 
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Andy's Catholic. They fucken love idolatry. He claims to be Catholic but his behavior and dogma remind me of 17th century English Puritans.
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twistedmentat posted:He claims to be Catholic but his behavior and dogma remind me of 17th century English Puritans. I'm an extremely lapsed, agnostic as gently caress, Catholic, and I'm still a better Catholic than this guy. I like the current Pope for starters.
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Andy is totally more on the side of the fundies than the Catholic Church, but conversion even to another sect within Christianity is a Big Deal if you believe in that stuff so that's probably why he hasn't moved past it. I think Catholics have a unique attachment to since they have a pretty strong claim to being the original Christians.
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Jun 19, 2014 00:18
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mastervj posted:I'm an extremely lapsed, agnostic as gently caress, Catholic, and I'm still a better Catholic than this guy. I as well. My Irish Catholic upbringing was pretty much "we're all in this together, so don't be a shitheel to people. That's what god wants.". A nun never smacked my hand for asking questions.
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Andy Schlafly posted:I'm sure we all know people of low IQs [...] often they have strong religious faith. Oh my god I'm dying.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Andy is totally more on the side of the fundies than the Catholic Church, but conversion even to another sect within Christianity is a Big Deal if you believe in that stuff so that's probably why he hasn't moved past it. I think Catholics have a unique attachment to since they have a pretty strong claim to being the original Christians. Remember this: Catholics are not a monolithic organization where everybody agrees with each other. There are some very, very conservative Catholics who have a hardline view of the world. Haven't you ever watched EWTN? Those are the types of Catholics we're talking about. There are some Catholics who worry about working at Barnes and Noble because they might have to sell pornography! Ultragonk posted:If they manage to wipe enough of the crazy from their mind and actually finish their bible project how much of an audience do you think it could get? It seems like it could be restricted to a few fringe groups but I don't know enough of the attitude in the US to gauge how it would go. Honestly, if you wiped the crazy from it, you wouldn't bother doing a Conservative Bible project. A lot of people, including Joseph "Is that a Dead Slug or Your Mustache" Farah wrote a really scathing commentary on the Conservative Bible Project, basically saying "I think Jesus knew what he meant when he said these things." Shbobdb posted:If it were finished, I'm sure the Conservative Bible would be incorporated into his homeschooling program and would grow from there. Still a niche market but bigger than "absolutely nobody". From there it could gain some momentum. Obviously, the Catholic Church is different due to its clear hierarchy but they recently changed the translation used as well as parts of the Vernacular Mass. Well, there's a world of difference between the Catholic Church's new translations and the Conservative Bible. Translations change all the time, and it's a fairly common event. New scholarship comes out, changing attitudes in how these incredibly old languages should be translated, and continual research and revision tends to mean that eventually, it's decided to go back and make some important changes. The Conservative Bible is really more akin to a new Bible being produced to support a new theology. The core gist of what the texts say didn't change when the Church issued a new translation. They were just trying to bring the wording back in line to the original Latin in some places.
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He's got two rings but he lost the third time so Conservapedia is finally proven right!quote:Conservapedia proven right, again: Overrated Sports Star LeBron James is routed by the San Antonio Spurs for the NBA championship, despite the overhyping of James by the lamestream media. [15] But this: quote:Yeah, shame on Barack Obama for starting that war. Also, it should be "are going up in smoke," as "resources" is plural. EddyJ 09:34, 12 June 2014 (EDT) I can't read this as anything other than Conservative saying he doesn't believe Bush ever had culpability for Iraq. Seriously, what does that even mean?
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jojoinnit posted:I can't read this as anything other than Conservative saying he doesn't believe Bush ever had culpability for Iraq. As President Truman said, "The buck stops here:" *points at black president*
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Palmersaurus posted:As President Truman said, "The buck stops here:" *points at black president* The strapping young buck stops here.
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Jack Gladney posted:The strapping young buck stops here. That's more a Reagan thing than a Truman one.
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Is Bush president? If not, not his problem. Also Obama should have pulled out faster, ignore all the poo poo we said about him pulling out to fast by the way.
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Unless Obama ends up not helping the Maliki government after all, in which case that pansy Muslim-lover threw away Bush's glorious victory in Iraq through cowardice and treachery.
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jojoinnit posted:He's got two rings but he lost the third time so Conservapedia is finally proven right! "Ha ha! He's only on the SECOND best team in the NBA this year! What a terrible loser!" I don't get when people point to the team that loses in the finals and says they obviously must suck because of that.
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Cemetry Gator posted:Remember this: Catholics are not a monolithic organization where everybody agrees with each other. There are some very, very conservative Catholics who have a hardline view of the world. Haven't you ever watched EWTN? Those are the types of Catholics we're talking about. There are some Catholics who worry about working at Barnes and Noble because they might have to sell pornography! Oh I know, I'm Catholic myself, and nobody ever said you had to follow lockstep with the Vatican to be a Good Catholic but Andy defintely feels like he'd be more at home in a fundie church.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Oh I know, I'm Catholic myself, and nobody ever said you had to follow lockstep with the Vatican to be a Good Catholic but Andy defintely feels like he'd be more at home in a fundie church. I have a hard time believing Andy would be at all happy until and unless he somehow convinced the entire Catholic Church to follow his own particular
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Cemetry Gator posted:Remember this: Catholics are not a monolithic organization where everybody agrees with each other. There are some very, very conservative Catholics who have a hardline view of the world. Haven't you ever watched EWTN? Those are the types of Catholics we're talking about. There are some Catholics who worry about working at Barnes and Noble because they might have to sell pornography! Very little of the texts in the bible were originally in Latin FYI. Most texts are Greek, Ancient Hebrew, or Aramaic.
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As a non-practicing Irish-Catholic who used to be pretty devout it would be my personal opinion that Andy is way outside the normal bounds from what I've seen in this thread.
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Ogmius815 posted:Very little of the texts in the bible were originally in Latin FYI. Most texts are Greek, Ancient Hebrew, or Aramaic. None of the original texts of the Bible are in Latin. The change in translation was in reference to the text of the vernacular Mass, which is translated from the Latin Missale Romanum.
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Berke Negri posted:As a non-practicing Irish-Catholic who used to be pretty devout it would be my personal opinion that Andy is way outside the normal bounds from what I've seen in this thread. At least in the US, Catholics tend to be quite liberal on social issues, even among those who attend weekly services. For instance, proportionally more elderly Catholics support gay marriage than oppose it, which is quite a surprising result given the stereotype of old, religious people being very conservative. See http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1961. Shame the establishment has their heads up their asses, but there's nothing new there. Turns out a millennia old religious institution takes a long time to accept change.
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BBJoey posted:At least in the US, Catholics tend to be quite liberal on social issues, even among those who attend weekly services. For instance, proportionally more elderly Catholics support gay marriage than oppose it, which is quite a surprising result given the stereotype of old, religious people being very conservative. See http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1961. One of the few things that pushes mainline Catholicism towards conservatism is the belief that life starts at conception. Catholics, in general tend to be opposed both to the death penalty and to abortion for that reason. Hell, I fell into that camp before my college theology classes pushed me over the brink from questioning to Atheist.
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If I'd seen that CP discussion about movies in any work of fiction, I'd have snorted and said it was an unrealistic strawman and that the author was a hack. Hell, their point of view regarding mentally handicapped people as model faithful just lapped Warhammer 40k's "blessed is the mind too small for doubt" and "a tiny mind is easily filled by faith" axioms, and those are meant to be grotesquely over the top. And as for "what movie director knows anything about soldiers?", there's the fact that many of them were not just in the military but in active combat duty, starting from John Ford and going through a whole crop of vietnam vets. One of the many infiltrated trolls there really should try and edit the article on Passion of the Christ and argue that it is a deeply liberal movie, because: -It was made by a wife-beater and anti-semite, which are of course liberal traits. -It references the whole "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" incident, which is a liberal corruption of the bible. The discussion page for that would be golden.
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Sephyr posted:Hell, their point of view regarding mentally handicapped people as model faithful just lapped Warhammer 40k's "blessed is the mind too small for doubt" and "a tiny mind is easily filled by faith" axioms, and those are meant to be grotesquely over the top. A very, very good litmus test when it comes to ultra conservatives is to start quoting Warhammer 40K in front of people that don't know what it is and see how they react. Anybody that hears those quotes or "educate men without faith and you only create clever devils" is probably a complete poo poo with deplorable opinions.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:A very, very good litmus test when it comes to ultra conservatives is to start quoting Warhammer 40K in front of people that don't know what it is and see how they react. Anybody that hears those quotes or "educate men without faith and you only create clever devils" is probably a complete poo poo with deplorable opinions. Blessed is the mind too small for doubt. An open mind is like a fortress with gates open and unbarred.
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twistedmentat posted:Blessed is the mind too small for doubt. Do not ask, "why kill the xenos;" rather ask, "why not?"
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'Innocence Proves Nothing (if you are Amish)' There is always more and it's always more grimdark.
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Sephyr posted:'Innocence Proves Nothing (if you are Amish)' There is no such thing as innocencefor blacks, only varying degrees of guilt.
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Sephyr posted:One of the many infiltrated trolls there really should try and edit the article on Passion of the Christ and argue that it is a deeply liberal movie http://www.conservapedia.com/Category:Debatable_Whether_Conservative
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"Forest Gump is a retard!  ""People of low intelligence trend to be more faithful. " "Ha!" "Only a liberal would make fun of the mentally handicapped "
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ToxicSlurpee posted:A very, very good litmus test when it comes to ultra conservatives is to start quoting Warhammer 40K in front of people that don't know what it is and see how they react. Anybody that hears those quotes or "educate men without faith and you only create clever devils" is probably a complete poo poo with deplorable opinions. This reminds me of the time an actual conservative politician could not pass Voight-Kampff: https://twitter.com/red_mercer/status/335459908797472769
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