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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Rooney and sturridge cannot be on the same pitch and that means dropping rooney imo drop sturridge imo, rooney has played the best club football of his career when hes the main striker
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Woy should pick some actual wingers. Doesn't matter if they're poo poo, just that they have a decent idea what they should be doing. Then everyone else will play better.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:05
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Lastronaut posted:I thought Cahill had a good game, but being in such a position in a game that ends up in defeat, he barely got mentioned in the analysis. Cahill is England's most underrated player, he's so good. Jags however...
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Jun 19, 2014 23:05
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I eagerly await the "filmed today to be current" scene added to tomorrow's EastEnders about this game
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Jun 19, 2014 23:05
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For some reason I share the same hopeless optimism for Englands chances of finishing 2nd as I did about Sunderland staying up with 6 games to go. Stranger things have happened you know?
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Jun 19, 2014 23:06
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TelekineticBear! posted:drop sturridge imo, rooney has played the best club football of his career when hes the main striker For all the Lampard chat of 'if he had a different name Rooney would be lauded', Rooney is still a weight around England's neck. A team built for team play without the 1/100,000,000 effort he slots in will be much better than it is now
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Jun 19, 2014 23:07
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what is England's "golden generation"?
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Jun 19, 2014 23:07
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Who's idea was it to have the ads full of england starts right after the match lmao
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Jun 19, 2014 23:08
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Cahill is on something like 70 games and has played spectacularly and deserves to be England's player of the tournament as well.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:09
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Charlotte Hornets posted:what is England's "golden generation"? Beckham,Gerrard, Lampard, cole, Ferdinand, terry, Owen, butt?
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Jun 19, 2014 23:10
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Cahill has been absolutely fantastic.
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Total Meatlove posted:Beckham,Gerrard, Lampard, cole, Ferdinand, terry, Owen, butt? Neville I guess
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Jun 19, 2014 23:10
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That team wot beat the krauts 5-1
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Jun 19, 2014 23:11
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Mainly Heskey
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Jun 19, 2014 23:11
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Yeah our best players of the whole tournament have been cahill, jagielka and sterling. It just sucks that the midfield let them down so badly at both ends (also baines and johnson)
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Jun 19, 2014 23:12
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Carrier posted:Yeah our best players of the whole tournament have been cahill, jagielka and sterling. It just sucks that the midfield let them down so badly at both ends (also baines and johnson) Sturridge has been very good if you ask me, the only player that's looked dangerous when the ball comes to him around the box.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:12
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I will be so hosed off if Hodgson is forced out over this as well. He's been brave to trust in the relative youth and inexperience of Sterling and Barkley and Lallana but I'd rather this than watch Lampard get outrun by a tumbleweed in 2022
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Jun 19, 2014 23:12
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Bland posted:Sturridge has been very good if you ask me, the only player that's looked dangerous when the ball comes to him around the box. Tbh, him and Sterling both looked good in the first game but pretty mediocre in the second I thought, neither had much service though tbf (ha ha).
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Jun 19, 2014 23:13
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Tortuga posted:Mainly Heskey He gets compared to shite like Altidore but Emily Ivanhoe heskey was fantastic at being a limited striker with poo poo pace
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Jun 19, 2014 23:14
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Total Meatlove posted:I will be so hosed off if Hodgson is forced out over this as well. He's been brave to trust in the relative youth and inexperience of Sterling and Barkley and Lallana but I'd rather this than watch Lampard get outrun by a tumbleweed in 2022 Has he gently caress been brave, Steven Gerrard has played 180 minutes of football for England at the World Cup.
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Monday Bandele posted:Cahill is England's most underrated player, he's so good. Jags however... Yeah, he was obviously to blame for the first goal for dropping so deep instead of holding the line, simple stuff really.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:15
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Charlotte Hornets posted:what is England's "golden generation"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BNkO9l318o This game happened and England thought they were on the cusp of something amazing.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:15
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Carrier posted:Tbh, him and Sterling both looked good in the first game but pretty mediocre in the second I thought, neither had much service though tbf (ha ha). Sturridge came alive in the last twenty minutes or so tonight but agreed otherwise. Sterling's one trick was found out halfway through the first game.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:16
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Bland posted:Has he gently caress been brave, Steven Gerrard has played 180 minutes of football for England at the World Cup. Brave, not suicidal. Our front three was Roomey ( played out of position, and look at the press that got) Sturridge upfront and Welbeck with Sterling or Barkley in behind. Capello wouldn't have touched that front four with a barge pole.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:16
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Brony Car posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BNkO9l318o england havent even been close to playing this well since but the effect this game had was incredible and I imagine everyone of a certain age remembers it vividly, you could even buy the DVD in marks and spencer ffs
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Jun 19, 2014 23:17
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TelekineticBear! posted:england havent even been close to playing this well since but the effect this game had was incredible and I imagine everyone of a certain age remembers it vividly, you could even buy the DVD in marks and spencer ffs The difference being that Germany took that loss as a wake up call and revamped their side and we're still playing Gerrard
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Jun 19, 2014 23:19
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Sterling is going to end up like SWP, and I'm not convinced Barkley is any more promising than Joe Cole.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:20
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TelekineticBear! posted:england havent even been close to playing this well since but the effect this game had was incredible and I imagine everyone of a certain age remembers it vividly, you could even buy the DVD in marks and spencer ffs Yeah i was on holiday in Fanø, denmark and i was absolutely gutted
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Jun 19, 2014 23:21
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England's coming home, thank goodness. PU, what's that smell? It's not the favelas, it's the England men's national football team. It's OK, they'll be off soon. Adeus e boa noite, inglaterra.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:22
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Tortuga posted:Sterling is going to end up like SWP, and I'm not convinced Barkley is any more promising than Joe Cole.  gently caress off. Sterling has already shown end product and his directness will help Liverpool next season and Bsrkley will score 10+
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Total Meatlove posted:The difference being that Germany took that loss as a wake up call and revamped their side and we're still playing Gerrard Germany have won nothing since then either
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Jun 19, 2014 23:22
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Ravel posted:Germany have won nothing since then either Their golden generation amounting to nothing but a Meuller goal scoring record would be sweet I agree.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:24
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Carrier posted:Yeah our best players of the whole tournament have been cahill, jagielka and sterling. It just sucks that the midfield let them down so badly at both ends (also baines and johnson) Baines for me was awful first half, he seemed so off the pace, getting caught on the ball... he just seemed so slow to react. I believe he has so much quality in his position but was a let down tonight. He whipped in a few good balls but that was about it.
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Ravel posted:Germany have won nothing since then either I didn't realise how long it was since Germany last won anything.
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Jun 19, 2014 23:25
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Goondolences England fans but it's not over have a little faith it can still find its way home.
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Lastronaut posted:Baines for me was awful first half, he seemed so off the pace, getting caught on the ball... he just seemed so slow to react. I believe he has so much quality in his position but was a let down tonight. He whipped in a few good balls but that was about it. There were a couple of occasions where he could have beaten his man and gone to the byline to ship a cross but pussied out and kept possession by passing back to Rooney or Welbeck in a congested midfield. Needs,game time and confidence I think.
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Ravel posted:Germany have won nothing since then either They've gotten closer and been more pleasing to the eye, though. If England played like Germany has managed to, I don't think many of you would be as upset as you are right now. This is probably meant for a different thread, but I wonder if a big part of it is management. This tournament is supposedly Jogi Low's last chance too, so it's not like the Germans are satisfied either. Maybe Germany needed another Beckenbauer to give those German players the right amount of fight to back up all the great technical skill. England seems constantly hampered by the same politics and massive, self-destructive pressure where the manager isn't really able to make the brave calls a manager needs to make to succeed (or at least fail admirably).
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Northern Irish Liverpool fan here. England need some perspective. Italy were runners up in the last Euros, and Uruguay won theirs. However the following are either not good enough, or past it and should have no future for England: Gerrard Jagielka Baines Rooney Welbeck And especially Hodgson. Hodgson is a charlatan. I would add Johnson to the list but I still can't think of anyone better, except Jon Flanagan. My team either vs Costa Rica (if already out) or after the competition: Hart Johnson Cahill Jones Shaw Henderson x Sterling Barkley Lallana Sturridge It's late, not sure who to put in position x...
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