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slidebite posted:I had no idea that was even a thing in Japan. What's the justification? Crazy N.K.? Three things; 1) Crazy NK/China/SK (basically behind the thin smiles everyone hates each other) 2) Japan is still butthurt that they weren't allowed to buy Raptors and 3) It's a huge and expensive make-work project that allows them to keep a major industry alive while also allowing them to crow about their technological prowess. VVV Well obviously MrChips fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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Is it just me (and the blur), or does the nose on that thing look quite blunt?
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LostCosmonaut posted:Is it just me (and the blur), or does the nose on that thing look quite blunt? At first glance I thought "oh god, are they actually doing a centerline/nose intake ala old Mig21 or F-100 but looking closer it kinda looks like, in all that fuzziness, the nose cone is detached, sitting on a blue stand just in front of the rest of the airframe.
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Duke Chin posted:At first glance I thought "oh god, are they actually doing a centerline/nose intake ala old Mig21 or F-100 but looking closer it kinda looks like, in all that fuzziness, the nose cone is detached, sitting on a blue stand just in front of the rest of the airframe. Yeah, that black bit at the front looks like an exposed radar array.
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Psion posted:uh folded into the fuselage, it's OBVIOUSLY not in gerwalk mode geez On a whim I decided to throw that into google and, it turns out, it actually stands for something: Ground Effective Reinforcement of Winged Armament with Locomotive Knee-Joint And I only thought it was a made-up Robotech word.
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Terrible Robot posted:I, too, am sad that I cannot fly that plane-shaped fuzzy blob. Japanese so Have Bokeh might work better Gorilla Salad posted:On a whim I decided to throw that into google and, it turns out, it actually stands for something: uhhhhh
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Delivery McGee posted:
Everything I've read on the Packard Merlins said that Packard did a great job in turning the Merlin into a true mass production engine with no loss in reliability (after the bugs were worked out of the initial setup and testing) and that they actually made some improvements. Was everything a lie!?
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Snowdens Secret posted:uhhhhh Anime is stupid and creepy but I will always have a place in my heart for the aeroplane porn that was watching Robotech as a kid in the 80s 
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So, Japan has way more plutonium than they claimed and is working on stealth fighters? Hmmm....
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EightBit posted:So, Japan has way more plutonium than they claimed and is working on stealth fighters? Hmmm.... Clancy's dead, dude. Or... Is he?
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He may be dead, but his dream of straw man villains lives on...
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I'd be playing catch down the aisle with the flight attendant or something.
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This honestly sounds like the best plane ride ever, I'd just spend the whole thing chatting with the crew because it'd be neat to get their perspective on things
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Jun 20, 2014 03:47
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Hadlock posted:Did American change their livery due to Boeing not being able to offer the 787 in "polished aluminum" in part because it has a composite fuselage? They changed it because they wanted to "rebrand" during bankruptcy. Back when they had the a300 they were fully painted for a while as Airbus was worried about corrosion of the bare aluminum. They could have just painted the 787 as well.
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KodiakRS posted:They changed it because they wanted to "rebrand" during bankruptcy. Back when they had the a300 they were fully painted for a while as Airbus was worried about corrosion of the bare aluminum. They could have just painted the 787 as well. Nothing says "fiscal responsibility" like spending untold millions changing your logo and paint scheme on everything in a rebranding effort during bankruptcy. Legacy carriers have the financial sense of a junky.
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A Melted Tarp posted:Nothing says "fiscal responsibility" like spending untold millions changing your logo and paint scheme on everything in a rebranding effort during bankruptcy. Legacy carriers have the financial sense of a junky. That makes sense if you believe the cause of your bankruptcy is because people hate your airline or believe you're outdated or something.
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A Melted Tarp posted:Nothing says "fiscal responsibility" like spending untold millions changing your logo and paint scheme on everything in a rebranding effort during bankruptcy. Legacy carriers have the financial sense of a junky. Brand is everything to the airlines. After they have an accident, what's the first thing they do after the flames are extinguished and the passengers are hosed out? Paint over their titles.
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There was a post a few months back about the old Federal Airways system, with the lighted beacons and the big concrete arrows on the ground, but I found out today that Nineteen of the beacons are still in active operation. Not run by the federal government anymore of course, but really cool to see the aviation equivalent of the friggin' signal fires of Gondor still going strong in the 21st century.
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Living the dream.
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Is that an Embraer 145? I recall the funky asymmetric ceiling from the one I flew on, it was 2+1 too.
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Yeah, likely a Delta Connection flight. IThe image is at least a year old, I remember seeing it before.
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I love 2+1's. You can get the advantages of a window and an aisle at the same time.
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Yeah I really enjoyed it too! Nice little plane. It was an American Eagle flight from Huntsville to DFW.
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Minto Took posted:I love 2+1's. You can get the advantages of a window and an aisle at the same time. Advantages of legroom, with the fuselage curving in and invading your space, not so much. And without overhead storage to speak of, that's where your carryon is going. Also you can see how worn out and paddingless the seats always are in that pic. Those are spiteful little planes. MrChips posted:Brand is everything to the airlines. After they have an accident, what's the first thing they do after the flames are extinguished and the passengers are hosed out? Paint over their titles. Maybe, but with everyone buying their tickets on Expedia these days I can't see how the graphics on the planes themselves have one bit of effect there. You'd have to dump the brand name entirely for it to matter.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Maybe, but with everyone buying their tickets on Expedia these days I can't see how the graphics on the planes themselves have one bit of effect there. You'd have to dump the brand name entirely for it to matter. Airlines still think their brands are a big deal for some reason, despite the fact that 90% of the travelling public just uses whichever airline is cheapest. Alaska was planning to completely rebrand themselves until recently (despite the fact their logo has been in use for 40 years), but since they're focusing a lot of effort on a pissing contest with Delta over Seattle, they've put it on the back burner for now.
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azflyboy posted:Airlines still think their brands are a big deal for some reason, despite the fact that 90% of the travelling public just uses whichever airline is cheapest. It's the 10% that don't who pay as much as the rest of the 90% combined that branding matters to. That's why it's important to airlines, especially the legacy carriers with their intercontinental/transoceanic first and business classes.
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Luneshot posted:This honestly sounds like the best plane ride ever, I'd just spend the whole thing chatting with the crew because it'd be neat to get their perspective on things I've gotten one of these before. Nairobi to Johannesburg. 2 passengers only on a 737-800. That became a smoking flight.
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ming-the-mazdaless posted:I've gotten one of these before. Nairobi to Johannesburg. 2 passengers only on a 737-800. I got on a Dash-80 with like 4-6 people one time. It was so early in the morning though that everyone just took a nap. It was like riding in first class, get a coffee before takeoff, I'm done with this paper do you want it...etc. I think it was a 5 am from PIT to MDT.
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I've had a few flights like this, and it is indeed Awesome Barnsy posted:I'd be playing catch down the aisle with the flight attendant or something. Too many ways to damage IFE gear. Bowling is safer (if you can find perfectly round oranges) 
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azflyboy posted:Airlines still think their brands are a big deal for some reason, despite the fact that 90% of the travelling public just uses whichever airline is cheapest. You think? I'd agree with that for the traveling public that only flies once. But people who fly repeatedly do establish some brand preference. Like, I enjoy flying Southwest, and I'd rather pound nails through my own dick than ever get on a USAir flight.
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Had a flight where like 20 passengers ended up sharing a 767. Felt like there were more flight attendants than passengers.
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ctishman posted:There was a post a few months back about the old Federal Airways system, with the lighted beacons and the big concrete arrows on the ground, but I found out today that Nineteen of the beacons are still in active operation. Not run by the federal government anymore of course, but really cool to see the aviation equivalent of the friggin' signal fires of Gondor still going strong in the 21st century. Got a link that actually provides pictures and/or video of these things?
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SyHopeful posted:Got a link that actually provides pictures and/or video of these things? http://sometimes-interesting.com/2013/12/04/concrete-arrows-and-the-u-s-airmail-beacon-system/ http://www.cibolahistory.org/aviation-heritage-museum.html e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbtX8WQrsx0 An hour on them from the MT Historic Preservation Office joat mon fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Phanatic posted:You think? Rebranding isn't going to fix that, at least if you keep the name. Do people really think of a font and a logo when the name American comes up, or do they think about that one time they hosed a flight attendant on an empty flight? Customer Experience matters much more than a logo. Hell, half the time the passengers never even see the outside of the plane! Does it matter what color it's painted?! (I will admit that i get giddy on the Salmon Thirty Salmon(s) or the Disneyland planes) The only successful rebranding I can actually think of is ValuJet. And again, it was 100% because they changed their name. Delta would have to do an awful lot of rebranding and dick sucking to ever get me back on one of their planes. I'd be open to trying United, though, because of the one time I had an empty flight when they were bankrupt in 2003.
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For me all US domestic carriers are equally terrible and my only loyalty is to my frequent flyer card. Just switched from StarAlliance (SAS) to Skyteam (KLM) for my transatlantics. Flew Delta for the first time yesterday and it felt just like United - old planes, uninterested flight attendants and you have to change planes in some hellhole.
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joat mon posted:http://sometimes-interesting.com/2013/12/04/concrete-arrows-and-the-u-s-airmail-beacon-system/ This is so cool. I love finding out about stuff like this that I never had any idea about, it's so cool to read. Thanks for the links. 
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Phanatic posted:I'd agree with that for the traveling public that only flies once. But people who fly repeatedly do establish some brand preference. Like, I enjoy flying Southwest, and I'd rather pound nails through my own dick than ever get on a USAir flight. Those are sort of bad examples because Southwest actually does business rather distinctly from all the other major domestic carriers, and I'm going to bet it's those differences and not the extra orange in the livery that make you prefer them. I'm also going to bet that if they announced tomorrow that they were changing their name to Air Dingleberry but keeping the same no-fee luggage check, boarding procedures, routes etc that they'd see only a very temporary blip in sales. On the other hand US Air / American / Continental / Delta are so indistinguishably lovely that I can't even remember which are actually independent existing lines any more. As a non-frequent flyer I wonder if frequent flyer miles and specific repeatedly-run routes lock people into specific lines more than actual brand preference.
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