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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Lord Twisted posted:

...Game of Thrones into the classroom would be excellent teaching tools to get children excited about history.

You would have the edit out all the cocks and tits and each resulting expurgated episode would be about 4 minutes long. And boring because it didn't have any cocks or tits in it.

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DroneRiff
May 11, 2009

Delusibeta posted:

Well, I'm in the market for a job, and I'd be down for doing whatever for £25k. That's bank manager money round where I live. Now, that's not to say I'll be suitably qualified, or won't submit a poo poo application, but still. :v:

It's the magic/pain of the NHS. Pay up north looks really good. Down south, not so much. Still if you want push some buttons...:science:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

IceAgeComing posted:

They even have [url= http://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/enforcement/oac]an office[/url] solely for investigating reports of companies pursuing the boycott...

Haha, seriously, what the hell!?

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Umiapik posted:

Haha, seriously, what the hell!?

That's just unbelievable!

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Umiapik posted:

Haha, seriously, what the hell!?

Its amazing

Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011

IceAgeComing posted:

They even have an office solely for investigating reports of companies pursuing the boycott...

Hobo
Dec 12, 2007

Forum bum

Darth Walrus posted:

One question for you goons - anyone familiar with the area in and around Bath? If so, which place currently does the best burgers? Just for future Friday-evening reference. Other really good fast or fastish food (pizzas, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever) would be good to know about as well.

I live in Bath.

The Bath Brew House do really good burgers, although a Grillstock has opened last weekend as well, which looks amazing. If you're in Bath this weekend, Market also does good burgers, but sadly they're closing for good on Sunday as a casino is being built on the spot. Pig and Fiddle do more exotic burgers like ostrich and camel, and have live music as well. There's also a GBK if you wanna be like that.

On the faster/takeaway side, there's Schwartz Bro, which has been around for ages, although I've never actually eaten there. I've also heard decent things about Manhattan Burger and usually go for Billy Burger if I can't be bothered to actually leave the house and I want it delivered.

This is already turning into a pretty hefty post, so briefly, for pizza delivery I'd go for Cafe 84, and there's a Mission Burrito in Bath for a quick burrito.

Happy to recommend anything else food/drink wise that you might want to know about. Bath is absolutely amazing for food and drink, especially as everything is so close to each other, which I'm pretty sure results in the subpar places shutting down pretty quickly.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

It's coming home!

(The English football team.)

(Because they're poo poo.)

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Hobo posted:

I live in Bath.

Happy to recommend anything else food/drink wise that you might want to know about. Bath is absolutely amazing for food and drink, especially as everything is so close to each other, which I'm pretty sure results in the subpar places shutting down pretty quickly.

I'm going to Bath in 3 weeks with my girlfriend and her family, is there anything I can get them to do that isn't shopping. Apparently we're already planning to do the Roman baths and the 'circus', whatever that is.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Praseodymi posted:

I'm going to Bath in 3 weeks with my girlfriend and her family, is there anything I can get them to do that isn't shopping. Apparently we're already planning to do the Roman baths and the 'circus', whatever that is.

The baths are pricey but well worth seeing. I forget what the circus is. The cathederal-y thing (abbey?) is pretty cool, too. Otherwise, enjoy the Georgian architecture, tourists and posh residents.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Kegluneq posted:

It's coming home!

(The English football team.)

(Because they're poo poo.)

Don't get your hopes up yet

quote:

England out unless Italy beat Costa Rica

There's still a chance this footing-ball bollocks is set to continue.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Better luck next time :unsmith:

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


We have to beat Costa Rica AND Italy have to win both their remaining matches AND we have to score enough to make sure we come 2nd on goal difference.

it's coming home

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Praseodymi posted:

I'm going to Bath in 3 weeks with my girlfriend and her family, is there anything I can get them to do that isn't shopping. Apparently we're already planning to do the Roman baths and the 'circus', whatever that is.

The Circus is a Georgian roundabout, basically. It's nicer than it sounds, but probably won't tide you over for more than a few minutes. It's next to the similarly impressive-looking Royal Crescent, too. Apart from the landmarks you mention, there's Bath Abbey, which is right next to the Roman Baths and has pretty impressive views from the belltower (details on how to get up there here). Pulteney Bridge and Great Pulteney Street are near the Abbey and Baths, and will be immediately recognisable from literally any Regecy-era movie you've ever seen (and the recent Les Miserables). The Holburne Museum at the top of Great Pulteney Street showcases a mad Victorian's enormous art collection and got a relatively recent facelift, making it much more interesting than it used to be. It has a whole bunch of outre art exhibitions every month as well, from light displays to an enormous inflatable 'colour maze'. There's also the Costume Museum, which isn't really my thing, but would definitely be up the street of any of your group who are interested in fashion. The biggest and grandest park is Victoria Gardens, which also has a pretty fun crazy-golf course, and a short way outside of town there's the American Museum, which is a quite impressive example of what it sounds like. Further out (about half an hour's drive away), there's the beautiful Stourhead landscape garden and the Longleat safari and adventure park (which really does have something for everyone, provided you don't mind the odd water buffalo using your car's wing-mirror to clean its ears).

Anything more specific? I've lived in Bath for most of my life, so I may well be able to help.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Party Boat posted:

We have to beat Costa Rica AND Italy have to win both their remaining matches AND we have to score enough to make sure we come 2nd on goal difference.

it's coming home

I wonder if there'll be less reporting on it once England are out. You know what Britain's like with those foreign events once they're not involved anymore.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Party Boat posted:

We have to beat Costa Rica AND Italy have to win both their remaining matches AND we have to score enough to make sure we come 2nd on goal difference.

it's coming home

Goal difference isn't relevant, ties are broken on the result of the game between the teams, with goals scored only counted if that result is a draw. If we draw with Costa Rica we're out anyway regardless of the other results.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
So how about that anti austerity demo in London on Saturday? This may surprise you, but the BBC and the Guardian are not reporting on it. I wonder, why that is!

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Darth Walrus posted:

One question for you goons - anyone familiar with the area in and around Bath? If so, which place currently does the best burgers? Just for future Friday-evening reference. Other really good fast or fastish food (pizzas, Chinese, Mexican, or whatever) would be good to know about as well.

The new Bath Grillstock

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!

DroneRiff posted:

It's the magic/pain of the NHS. Pay up north looks really good. Down south, not so much. Still if you want push some buttons...:science:

Is your app site still horrible? Last time I used it, you wanted me to transcribe my CV in autistic levels of detail. That's why I stopped applying fit for NHS jobs.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Goal difference isn't relevant, ties are broken on the result of the game between the teams, with goals scored only counted if that result is a draw.

If three teams finish on the same points it does, which would happen with that set of results.

tentish klown
Apr 3, 2011

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Goal difference isn't relevant, ties are broken on the result of the game between the teams, with goals scored only counted if that result is a draw. If we draw with Costa Rica we're out anyway regardless of the other results.


Which part of 'We have to beat Costa Rica' did you not read?

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Darth Walrus posted:

Anything more specific? I've lived in Bath for most of my life, so I may well be able to help.

Thanks, that's a pretty good list. I've never been before, or even travelled that much so it'll all be new to me, hopefully it'll be enough to keep us out of New Look for a while.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

tentish klown posted:

Which part of 'We have to beat Costa Rica' did you not read?

What part of me explaining there is no possible result in this situation where goal difference would be relevant did you not read?

Delusibeta
Aug 7, 2013

Let's ride together.
In order for England to qualify to the knock-out stages:

1) Italy must beat Costa Rica
2) Italy must beat Uruguay
3) England must beat Costa Rica by enough goals to overturn their goal difference deficit.

Needless to say, nobody has managed to get out of the group stage of the World Cup after losing their first two matches.

I have no idea where "goal difference is irrelevant" came from, everything I've read indicates that goal difference is the first method to break ties in the group stage.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Delusibeta posted:

In order for England to qualify to the knock-out stages:

1) Italy must beat Costa Rica
2) Italy must beat Uruguay
3) England must beat Costa Rica by enough goals to overturn their goal difference deficit.

Needless to say, nobody has managed to get out of the group stage of the World Cup after losing their first two matches.

I have no idea where "goal difference is irrelevant" came from, everything I've read indicates that goal difference is the first method to break ties in the group stage.

I've just realised that in that three way tie the results rule will also be irrelevant (all three will have one win and one loss), so the goal difference will be the tie breaker (or goals scored, they keep loving around with that rule).

e: It is indeed goal difference but even then the permutations get complex because in losing to Italyand England their GD will be at best zero and England's at worst minus one and now I have a headache)

e2: And also in losing to Italy Uruguay's GD would by definition be worse than both England and Costa Rica's at the end of this so I *think* it boils down to we must beat Costa Rica by at least two goals, minus however many more than one goals Italy beat them by.

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Jun 19, 2014

Hobo
Dec 12, 2007

Forum bum

Darth Walrus posted:

The Circus is a Georgian roundabout, basically. It's nicer than it sounds, but probably won't tide you over for more than a few minutes. It's next to the similarly impressive-looking Royal Crescent, too. Apart from the landmarks you mention, there's Bath Abbey, which is right next to the Roman Baths and has pretty impressive views from the belltower (details on how to get up there here). Pulteney Bridge and Great Pulteney Street are near the Abbey and Baths, and will be immediately recognisable from literally any Regecy-era movie you've ever seen (and the recent Les Miserables). The Holburne Museum at the top of Great Pulteney Street showcases a mad Victorian's enormous art collection and got a relatively recent facelift, making it much more interesting than it used to be. It has a whole bunch of outre art exhibitions every month as well, from light displays to an enormous inflatable 'colour maze'. There's also the Costume Museum, which isn't really my thing, but would definitely be up the street of any of your group who are interested in fashion. The biggest and grandest park is Victoria Gardens, which also has a pretty fun crazy-golf course, and a short way outside of town there's the American Museum, which is a quite impressive example of what it sounds like. Further out (about half an hour's drive away), there's the beautiful Stourhead landscape garden and the Longleat safari and adventure park (which really does have something for everyone, provided you don't mind the odd water buffalo using your car's wing-mirror to clean its ears).

Anything more specific? I've lived in Bath for most of my life, so I may well be able to help.

I think this covers it pretty well. To honest, I think the best thing to do in Bath is basically go on an all-day food/drink crawl.

Praseodymi posted:

Thanks, that's a pretty good list. I've never been before, or even travelled that much so it'll all be new to me, hopefully it'll be enough to keep us out of New Look for a while.

edit: I'd also say that if you are stuck in shopping mode, drag them out of place like New Look and into some independent shops - Bath has an unusually high percentage, so it's worth going to those instead of shops that you'd find on any high street.

Also, if you've ever had even the slightest pleasure out of drinking coffee, be sure to check out Colonna & Small's, they're consistently one of/the best coffee houses in the UK.

In a similar vein, if you have even the slightest interests in books, be sure to go to Mr B's Emporium of Reading Delights.

Hobo fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jun 20, 2014

Tortuga
Aug 27, 2011


Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

goddamnedtwisto posted:

What part of me explaining there is no possible result in this situation where goal difference would be relevant did you not read?

Goal difference is more important than head to head for the purposes of this tournament.

General China
Aug 19, 2012

by Smythe
Just to cheer you all up- very rich upper class family get cut up and die

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-25948960

Now apparantly theres some sort of scandal and call for an investigation worthy of the news media. gently caress em, I won't say I'm glad they are dead- but compare and contrast ( as your middleclass education has taught you to do ) to every time an industrial accident happens.

No, gently caress it, I cant lie- the more rich fuckers die the happier I am.

HortonNash
Oct 10, 2012

General China posted:

Just to cheer you all up- very rich upper class family get cut up and die

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-25948960

Now apparantly theres some sort of scandal and call for an investigation worthy of the news media. gently caress em, I won't say I'm glad they are dead- but compare and contrast ( as your middleclass education has taught you to do ) to every time an industrial accident happens.

No, gently caress it, I cant lie- the more rich fuckers die the happier I am.

An eight year old killed and a four year old severely injured.... They didn't choose their parents.

General China
Aug 19, 2012

by Smythe

HortonNash posted:

An eight year old killed and a four year old severely injured.... They didn't choose their parents.

The workingclass did not either. They had more severe injuries going back a longer time.

Lets be honest about the classwar in the uk

The war against the chavs, benefit claimants and people unable to work.

Well gently caress that argument- lets celebrate every upperclass gently caress who dies

We can always look forward to killing their offspring and taking the money from them.

General China fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jun 20, 2014

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
This coverage is good, when I take the wheel of a speedboat i'll make drat sure there's a kill cord. Thats a loving scary as gently caress and brutal way to go.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Yeah, I thought you were overreacting until I read the article. Killed two children because of their own stupidity and it's a tragedy, people need to be educated better about the safety features of boats, but someone starves to death because they lost their benefits and it's their own fault, they should have studied harder in school.

It's certainly not the kids faults, but it's a loving good example of the class bullshit that's going on despite peoples best efforts to not give a poo poo.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

General China posted:

Now apparantly theres some sort of scandal and call for an investigation worthy of the news media.

This is the weirdest thing - a lot of the time the news acts like we're in some future utopia, where bad things that happen are notable anomalies, so you get these reports about A Thing That Happened To Some Middle Class People as though similar and worse things don't go on almost daily.

There was that guy who went missing (and ended up being dead) while working in another country at some nature reserve. Worrying and terrible for his family and friends but does it need to be on the national news? There's the massive amount of Madeline McCann coverage every time someone picks up a pen somewhere - children go missing every single day, and putting them on the news would actually increase the chances of finding them. I hope she can be found but statistically it's pretty unlikely at this point, and the fixation on this single case makes it seem like this is the one unsolved incident in our society.

And then there was that group of people in yachts that went missing, and the US Coast Guard called off the search after they determined they'd done all they realistically could. Is it me or did that whole ARE BOYS media outcry end up diverting a warship to look for them?

General China
Aug 19, 2012

by Smythe

baka kaba posted:

This is the weirdest thing - a lot of the time the news acts like we're in some future utopia, where bad things that happen are notable anomalies, so you get these reports about A Thing That Happened To Some Middle Class People as though similar and worse things don't go on almost daily.

There was that guy who went missing (and ended up being dead) while working in another country at some nature reserve. Worrying and terrible for his family and friends but does it need to be on the national news? There's the massive amount of Madeline McCann coverage every time someone picks up a pen somewhere - children go missing every single day, and putting them on the news would actually increase the chances of finding them. I hope she can be found but statistically it's pretty unlikely at this point, and the fixation on this single case makes it seem like this is the one unsolved incident in our society.

And then there was that group of people in yachts that went missing, and the US Coast Guard called off the search after they determined they'd done all they realistically could. Is it me or did that whole ARE BOYS media outcry end up diverting a warship to look for them?

My point exactly- either Maddy is winning the biggest game of hide and seek ever or the media, police and establishment value middleclass children over workingclass children.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


In Crusader Kings 2 terms Ed Miliband is that promising but antisocial second son with a huge edu score you send to be educated by the most learned of folk. Then you and your handsome warrior heir die of plague and now the country is in Ed's hands and you scroll over all the negative social traits and facepalm as your kingdom splinters.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

General China posted:

My point exactly- either Maddy is winning the biggest game of hide and seek ever or the media, police and establishment value middleclass children over workingclass children.

A lot of that comes down to the fact that the McCanns employ PR people to keep the story in the media - if the parents of missing working class children would only bootstrap themselves up to have enough money to employ their own PR people then I'm sure the level of coverage would be the same.

Incidentally there's an old police rule of thumb that the more noise parents are willing to make in public about their missing kid the more suspicion should fall on them. It's only a rule of thumb, not a universal law, and the McCanns definitely have nothing at all whatsoever to hide, so i don't even know why I mentioned that.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

General China posted:

Just to cheer you all up- very rich upper class family get cut up and die

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-25948960

Now apparantly theres some sort of scandal and call for an investigation worthy of the news media. gently caress em, I won't say I'm glad they are dead- but compare and contrast ( as your middleclass education has taught you to do ) to every time an industrial accident happens.

No, gently caress it, I cant lie- the more rich fuckers die the happier I am.
How many working class children die each year in industrial accidents?

The father was massive bellend who is directly responsible for his death and the death of his daughter. Had this been a man on benefits driving a car recklessly there's no way the media would be remotely sympathetic.

I'd look up news reports but this story is over a year old :downs:

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Swan Oat posted:

So how about that anti austerity demo in London on Saturday? This may surprise you, but the BBC and the Guardian are not reporting on it. I wonder, why that is!

Demonstrations don't get attention by the media unless the cops provoke a riot and some poo poo gets smashed, so the whole thing can be boiled down by the media to "yobs and hooligans! feral underclass! why won't they protest peacefully!" with the point of the demonstration lost.


goddamnedtwisto posted:

A lot of that comes down to the fact that the McCanns employ PR people to keep the story in the media - if the parents of missing working class children would only bootstrap themselves up to have enough money to employ their own PR people then I'm sure the level of coverage would be the same.

Incidentally there's an old police rule of thumb that the more noise parents are willing to make in public about their missing kid the more suspicion should fall on them. It's only a rule of thumb, not a universal law, and the McCanns definitely have nothing at all whatsoever to hide, so i don't even know why I mentioned that.

The fact that the mum rang sky news before she bothered the local police with her missing kid then and turned up to police interviews with a loving press officer, along with other stuff like aaar maddies dna and corpse scent being found in a car the parents rented weeks after her disappearance- I'm leaning towards the original investigators theory that the parents returned from a night on the piss to find their daughter died accidentally, panicked and hid the body, then moved it a few weeks later.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I give no shits what happened to Maddy. Not a single poo poo. Partly because everyone wants me to and I'm just, like, a rebel or something.

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Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

didn't the thread do rich fuckers in speedboats chat to death months ago? why repost an article from jan

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