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Today a new dawn breaks for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Monthly Mega Thread. The left has dominated the discussion for too long and it is time the silent majority let their voices be heard! We don’t need flashy gimmicks, the facts, simply stated, stand for themselves. The great men of the Conservatives Party having made the hard choices and taken the difficult decisions have gotten Great Britain to finally turn the corner! Unemployment is at its lowest level since the Labour created crisis began (link), employment is at all time high (link), and with fewer people stuck in a lifelong cycle of dependency (link). We have proven that work pays! With our GDP about to fully recover (link) and set to grow faster than any other G7/EU nation this year (link) vindicates our policy of reducing the structural deficit (link). As a nation we must live within our means! Hyper-flexible working conditions (link) and a competitive tax regime has made this one of the most attractive places in the world to do business (link) and to live (link). Move over Singapore, UK Plc is back! Our housing market is growing ever stronger(link) with an exploshion of first time buyers (link), inflation is the lowest it has been in since the labour created crisis (link) and with strong growth in wages (link) we are doing better than ever. The cost of living crisis is over! Crime is at an all-time low (link) as criminals realise that if caught he will spend longer in jail than ever before (link). It is time we take responsibility for ourselves! All of this is reflected in the polls as the nation agrees that the best people to run the country is David and George (link). Here is a link to the failed left-wing threads of old. Long may they be forgotten (link) Our antipodean cousins have also seen the truth of the matter and their words our worth heading (link) History’s Greatest Monsters: Me, You, Your mama too
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# ? May 31, 2014 22:57 |
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Now that I am finally gainfully employed for more than 16 hours per week, I am happy to say: gently caress you poors, I've got mine. I shall be writing Mr Cameron directly in the morning to request immediate cessation of all benefits of any kind to anyone with less income than myself.
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# ? May 31, 2014 23:11 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:Now that I am finally gainfully employed for more than 16 hours per week, I am happy to say: gently caress you poors, I've got mine. I shall be writing Mr Cameron directly in the morning to request immediate cessation of all benefits of any kind to anyone with less income than myself. Don't forget to tell him to remit those benefits to you since you've successfully bootstrapped yourself!
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# ? May 31, 2014 23:19 |
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This guy on my news feed gets it, loving dirty scroungers. fake edit: unironically though I'm completely baffled by how stupid people are. What, he wants people in lower paid jobs to pay more tax because...they're obviously in those jobs out of not trying to get a better one hard enough? Way to buy hook, line, and sinker into the government narrative. The guy's a bartender too, so he's hardly John Galt. I honestly find it so deeply sad that neo-liberalism/Thatcherism has worked the divide and conquer angle so successfully, the working classes don't need to be kept in check because they're quite happy to tear each other apart and keep themselves weak. Or maybe he only thinks that because he's an ignorant tool who doesn't actually know what the hell he's talking about. I'll go with that one.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 00:29 |
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ThomasPaine posted:
Well we already know as fact that the biggest influence on a child's education potential is their parents status, and we are for the first time ever seeing retirees outscore school leavers in comparative testing coincidentally when the children of those educated under Thatcherite school reforms are beginning to seep into the current leavers' crop. So it's pretty easy to get people to swallow your bullshit when you're teaching them from birth that it is actually good for them. Politically motivated education practices are fantastic!
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 00:50 |
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ThomasPaine posted:
You should probably suggest to this guy that as a result of HMRC taking one month of exceptional working hours as his standard working hours over the course of the year, he should instead harp at his bosses about getting someone to help him instead of burning out an employee. But from long experience in bars, his managers are loving him instead of paying out for an extra pair of hands.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 01:09 |
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I agree completely, there is no point in working hard.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 01:13 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:I agree completely, there is no point in working hard. Depends what you're working hard at. For example, if you're working hard at dethroning and murdering Micheal Gove, you should continue to labour mightily
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 01:49 |
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ThomasPaine posted:
Fuckin Polyphemus needs to keep his kids under control
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 01:55 |
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Last night I was introduced to a couple of EDL recruiters, who with a straight face, claimed to be Muslim and disaffected with it, and EDL was the best way to combat it. They also had a printout of that sign about 'muslims don't like dogs, don't walk it in this park'
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Crane Fist posted:Depends what you're working hard at. For example, if you're working hard at dethroning and murdering Micheal Gove, you should continue to labour mightily A reminder that those nice gentlemen who represent the Law have been known to read these threads. So however much you hate Gove, and however much he deserves to be hated, let's not advocate his murder.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 09:34 |
I don't have the time to go through all those links in the OP but I'm glad to see things are looking up for you guys.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 09:41 |
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It's coming home.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 10:44 |
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I don't have the time to go through all those links in the OP but I'm glad to see things are looking up for you guys. Thanks! Just remember that Britain PLC is always open and ready for business, our national infrastructure is available at low low prices and our incredibly efficient labour policies mean those that other countries might deem too ill or disabled to work are keen and ready to work for youuuuuu!
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 10:53 |
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This cheered me up today. [img]i.imgur.com/3MKGOra.jpg[/img] Edit: (sorry, dunno why my img tags aren't working) Necrothatcher fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:This cheered me up today.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 11:34 |
namesake posted:Thanks! Just remember that Britain PLC is always open and ready for business, our national infrastructure is available at low low prices and our incredibly efficient labour policies mean those that other countries might deem too ill or disabled to work are keen and ready to work for youuuuuu! Are the UK's labour policies really all that efficient though? I mean it's certainly better than in the past but can you really compete with bastions of the free market like Thailand? I hope that one day the UK can aspire to the glorious title of "Thailand of the West"!
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 11:34 |
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It has to have "http://" in front of it now for some reason e/ beaten, but an image worth posting again.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 11:35 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 11:41 |
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Carrier posted:It's coming home. It is. It's coming home.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 12:01 |
I must say, it's nice to see the UKMT grow up and recognise some home truths about the world. If you're not a lefty when you're young, you don't have a heart, if you're not a conservative when you're old, you don't have a brain, etc, etc.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 12:24 |
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Pissflaps posted:It is. It's coming home. Well, it's certainly coming.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 12:30 |
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Ugh I can't believe the disgusting lefty Daily Mail are attacking captains of industry like this fine chap http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-breadline.htmlSIMON WALTERS, MAIL ON SUNDAY POLITICAL EDITOR posted:Newark by-election: Tory candidate Robert Jenrick says that just because he has three homes 'it doesn't mean I don't know about life on the breadline' how dare they
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:05 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:19 |
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The UKIP manifesto takes shape: scrap the 45p tax rate on income above £150k/year, build a grammar school in every town, and increase the tax-free personal allowance to £12.5k - the amount you'd make by working a minimum wage job for 40 hours a week. They've also seen a bump in their general election prospects - ~90% of their euro voters now plan to stick with them in 2015, up from ~50% before the euro results came in.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:31 |
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But what are they going to do about the muslims?????????
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:50 |
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What's the deal with grammar schools, anyway? I'm not familiar with them or why so many right-wing folks idolise them.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:58 |
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:But what are they going to do about the muslims????????? Yeah! This Great Country didnt vote UKIP to hear about economics. We voted for UKIP to kick all the bloody immigrants off this fair island and return it to its BRITISH origins.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:59 |
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:But what are they going to do about the muslims????????? Going by their newark candidate,
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 13:59 |
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Darth Walrus posted:What's the deal with grammar schools, anyway? I'm not familiar with them or why so many right-wing folks idolise them. Partly down to nostalgia and partly down to actually working. Aged 11 you'd do a test, if you were smart off to grammar school you went, if not too normal school for you. As with all things this had it pros and cons the big one being if you didn't make it to grammar school you were effectively a 3rd class citizen (or so he perception went).
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 14:02 |
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Darth Walrus posted:What's the deal with grammar schools, anyway? I'm not familiar with them or why so many right-wing folks idolise them. I went to one and it was widely recognised as the best school in the area with exam results to back it up, although not by that great a margin. It was OK but I'd rather have gone to a school that also had girls at it, unfortunately the only comprehensive in my catchment area was really poo poo. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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notaspy posted:Partly down to nostalgia and partly down to actually working. Don't forget you could buy a grammar school place if your kid wasn't able* to pass 11+ and you had the cash e: * The number of 'pass' results was based on the number of places, and thus you could buy your way in which would also guarantee to push a poor out of the bottom of the placement
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 14:04 |
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quote:‘There was no way my parents could afford to send me to private school. My grandma Dorothy paid the fees.’ edit: grammar schools are selective state schools. You take a test at 11 and if you pass you're in. Some people like them, especially people who benefited from them in the past, because if you were poor and clever they offered you a route out. Some people dislike them because the people who didn't get in were implicitly thrown on a scrapheap and seen as only good for menial jobs, and also because the amount of pressure to pass one exam on which your entire future was riding was enormous. They used to be much more common, but these days only a few counties still have them (Kent and I think Devon being two that come to mind...) Zephro fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Jun 1, 2014 |
# ? Jun 1, 2014 14:11 |
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Has there ever been a general questions thread in DD? I know this sounds weird, but I couldn't figure where to ask a question about a general thread. The idea for it is from the subforum PSP. They have a general question thread. This might seem irrelevant, but it actually works really well because it tends to focus on Japan for an asian influence, the main American influence, and a heavy dose of Mexico influence. I could easily see this template applying to DD. Or is it DND and we're ignoring the actual title? Regardless, open question threads are fun. I did do one in TFF (I think? It was forever ago) and people liked it. But I think it would be a good way to avoid derails. If someone wants to talk about something random and pose a random question, making a questions thread to do it in might help if the idea picks up steam. PSP thread that has been running since August 2009. Could be a good way to contain the random off dialog. Could take ideas from threads, and then post to the question, or hell, extended discussion thread, and keep the main threads clean. Little enforcement and it could become a very helpful feature. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3180956&pagenumber=1 This is the PSP general question thread. As I said, it's been running for nearly 5 years now. I think D(n)D could use a similar vessel. Personally, I have utter confidence that any project like this is way beyond anything I can do, so if someone likes the idea and wants to give it a try, feel free. If not, feel free to ignore me. But I legit think it's a good idea, if it hasn't been done. If it's been done, just ignore me, but I didn't see anything relevant with a cursory glance. Hell, if you wanna go full circle, call it Derail and Discussion, and after a certain point, you just move the conversation there quoting the person's last post in the other thread. They hyperlink afterall, might as well use it. I dunno. Debate and Discuss whether the Debate Disco should have a Derail and Discussion thread for extending discussions? Maybe even make them regional to keep Kyiv chat from clogging the discourse of drunk americans wondering if their politicans are gonna sell them out or outright kill them once they come to power.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 14:11 |
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I have no idea why you are asking here. Why not just start the thread and see? PM a mod first if you're really worried.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 14:20 |
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cucka posted:Has there ever been a general questions thread in DD? No.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 14:52 |
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One thing you have to remember when people like farage bring up the 'good old days' of grammar schools is that they're NOT talking about the basic concept of a grammar school - we still have those today (although the majority are private only), so we don't need to 'go back' to them, and academies/free-schools theoretically have all the freedom that post-'Education Act of 1976' grammar schools have had. What they're referring to is the old Tripartite system as established by the Butler Act in 1944, which split education into 3 levels: Grammar Schools (aka 'Toff' schools) Secondary Technical Schools (focused on STEM subject mostly) Secondary Modern Schools (focused on city & guilds qualifications mostly) Grammar schools only had to provide 25% of placements to state funded children, although the act stated 25-50%, which meant in practice they could allocate 50% of places to paid placement, 25% to state funded, and 'sell' the remaining 25% of places to state-funded 'failed 11+'. It's interesting to note that this system allowed for situations where your kid passed his/her 11+ on first blush, but was then rejected as the 25% of floating allocations was bought into by more affluent middle class parents. IIRC the cost to buy in was somewhere around £5000, not a large sounding sum, but in the 60s and early 70s, it was pretty much a year's salary for the average working class. Throughout the 60s and 70s the majority of Secondary Technical & Secondary Moderns merged into simple 'secondary' schools, which is what most of us will have experienced in the late 70s and 80s. The argument against the modern system is usually a cover for the real argument - that by integrating all 3 classes into the school system, Johnny Middle-classer has to mingle with the likes of Ralf Thicko and Mohammed Dontspeakenglish, which means that class attention is reduced and thus Johnny and his friend Tarquin (whose parents paid for, and he's a very good influence on Johnny) can't concentrate on their studies.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 15:01 |
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SybilVimes posted:Don't forget you could buy a grammar school place if your kid wasn't able* to pass 11+ and you had the cash Don't forget that he affluent could also afford the private tuition that was geared solely to passing the 11+, giving them a further leg up when it came to allocation of places. Still goes on. Last year towards the end of the summer term I was looking for some simple activities to fill time between class trips and fun stuff, so I dug out a few logical reasoning quizzes. The number of 9yo children who said 'done this with my tutor, sir' was staggering, I told them that they should have no problem and get 100%, then. 9yo's with private tutors prepping them for an entrance exam two years away!
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 15:11 |
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SybilVimes posted:
Which completely ignores the fact that most secondary schools segregate classes on ability for the core subjects (English, maths, science) and some of the others too (MFL). So if you're kid is being distracted by Ralf Thicko, it's because he's Tommy Dumbasbricks. Parents are deluded as to the ability of their progeny. I've had children, thick as two short planks, whose parents told me to my face that their kid is going to be a lawyer or doctor.
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# ? Jun 1, 2014 15:17 |
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IN my opinion, the idea of grammar schools, for providing selective education available to everyone, is a good idea. The problem being that grammar schools are too easy to use simply segregate children into ones worth spending time on and those you do not. Although this is probably influenced by the fact my mum pulled me out of my mediocre state school after two years to go to a selective private one instead (which I did enjoy more, and do better at). It just wish others wouldn't have to pay £14,000 per year to get that kind of education.
Nothingtoseehere fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jun 1, 2014 |
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