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Snowdens Secret posted:I said you'd need 220 (or 240 or whatever) and a lot of people are having problems (building codes etc) getting the charging stations installed for plug-in cars. I don't follow it that much so I forget how much of the details have to do with putting it on a separately totalized circuit for billing purposes to get those green credits etc etc. but getting the charging stations installed has been a bottleneck. Sorry about your inferior Eagle-land home wiring. Here in civilisation 240v (well actually about 230 these days as we step down to harmonise with Yurp) 13A sockets are the standard, with 30A sockets available in most kitchens. If only you'd not thrown all that tea away you could have that too. That's not actually a revolution reference - the reason the UK settled on such a high-current home wiring design is so we could run electric kettles to make tea in a reasonable timeframe. We have to keep entire mountains full of water just so we can all have a nice cup of tea after watching a soap opera, royal wedding, or England failing miserably at yet another international competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTM2Ck6XWHg
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Sorry about your inferior Eagle-land home wiring. Here in civilisation 240v (well actually about 230 these days as we step down to harmonise with Yurp) 13A sockets are the standard, with 30A sockets available in most kitchens. I don't know that I would call World War 2 an "international competition", but you're welcome anyway. 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Sorry about your inferior Eagle-land home wiring. Here in civilisation 240v (well actually about 230 these days as we step down to harmonise with Yurp) 13A sockets are the standard, with 30A sockets available in most kitchens. Unless you have 30A sockets in your yard, it's not relevant. Getting the power from the curb (powerline etc) to the home is a fairly trivial concern. American homes (essentially) all have 240VAC to run electric clothes driers, and the laundry room, the breaker box or both are usually conveniently located to the garage/carport. The problems relate mostly to the cost of the charging station, home safety regulations not really keeping up with what the homeowners want to do, and IIRC the government offering incentives that make more work for the power companies without giving them a slice. E: and a reminder that that's for homeowners, which rules out roughly 100% of your young urban professionals. I have electric charging at work and would love to get an e-vehicle for commuting, but I rent my home parking spot in a city-owned garage and lord only knows the walls I'd have to (be unable to) hurdle to get a charging spot put up there. Snowdens Secret fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Behold! The future of motorcycles!* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkvvsRBSroA *Not a motorcycle. Also not the future.
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Glorious! Even has LED lights; LED's are futuristic. edit: wait, what the gently caress actually holds it upright? The width of the tyres? What? Slavvy fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Jun 20, 2014 09:40
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Slavvy posted:Glorious! Even has LED lights; LED's are futuristic. Gyros on the sides balance it, I would think.
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Wait looking closely at the video there are big horizontal flywheels spinning. Wouldn't that make it useless at turning because of their resistance to it being inclined? How is it powered? There is seriously a lot of poo poo going on here that I don't understand. I'm going to bed.
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Slavvy posted:Wait looking closely at the video there are big horizontal flywheels spinning. Wouldn't that make it useless at turning because of their resistance to it being inclined? How is it powered? There is seriously a lot of poo poo going on here that I don't understand. I'm going to bed. It reminded me of the company that actually made the new tron bike or bat mobile where you never really saw the bike turning. This also reminds me of the "fly the road" concept that went nowhere apparently for who knows.
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Just a note on home electrics. While it's nice to have, fast charging is really most important when you're out. At home you just leave it to charge over night.
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Chichevache posted:Ohhhh... Now the crashing makes sense. I've been laughing about it to myself all this time waiting to drop that knowledge bomb 
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Slavvy posted:Wait looking closely at the video there are big horizontal flywheels spinning. Wouldn't that make it useless at turning because of their resistance to it being inclined? How is it powered? There is seriously a lot of poo poo going on here that I don't understand. I'm going to bed. No, because the gyros would mean that it would automatically lean into any turn you made - e.g.:  Leaning isn't what makes a motorcycle turn, it's just what makes it not fall over when you do turn.
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Tail of the Dragon in 2 photos:  Nah just kidding, I got a lot of good runs in. edit: Here's some of them. I gotta buy a couple of these.  
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def snow leppard posted:Nobody say "ape hangers" or your banned. Is monkey bars ok?
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Or you could just leave it alone.
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Stuck behind THREE Harley trikes, Jesus. That never happens on da gap here.
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HIPSTERS Am I rite?
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Other than the clip-ons being way too low, I love it.
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No kickstand, just lean it against the valve cover!
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nsaP posted:Tail of the Dragon in 2 photos: http://moonshinephoto.photoreflect.com/ http://129slayer.com/129Slayer/129_Slayer_The_Dragon_Photo_Specialist_on_US_129.html http://killboy.com/ Pretty sure I got these from US129 photos when I rode the dragon last year:  
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clutchpuck posted:HIPSTERS Lol I would love to see a human sitting on that, that seat height combined with the peg location and clip-ons should be pretty interesting to see. Also incredibly stupid balloon tires.
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nsaP posted:Tail of the Dragon in 2 photos:  What's the point of taking a bigwheel out on a curvy road? Aren't those things horribly unstable in turns?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:No, because the gyros would mean that it would automatically lean into any turn you made - e.g.: Ok so then I don't understand. If the gyros assist in turning, what stops it falling over when it's standing still? Wouldn't it be inherently imbalanced?
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OSU_Matthew posted:
They couldn't hold a line and cut into the other lane constantly. But that describes a lot of people there. And one lady recorded it all with an ipad
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Hah, neat, it's Danny's motorcycle thing. I know Danny. That one appearance prototype is still the only appearance prototype he's got, and it's from three or four years ago. He has several functional drivetrains though. Dude doesn't want to talk about the gyro system specifically, but it's a dual-wheel control moment gyroscope (you can look it up on wikipedia) similar to what they use to spin satellites around in space. One wheel is directly under your butt mounted flat, and the other is behind your back mounted at an angle. Basically the bike can control its own angle independently -- it can stay upright at a standstill as shown, or it can use the gyros to lean itself over at a standstill and hold that angle as long as the gyros are powered. If you turn the gyroscopes off it falls over so IIRC it has little stabilizer wheels that drop out when you park it. It still leans into turns like a motorcycle. The sales pitch is that it has active stability and can't be knocked over, whether you're at a stop or moving forwards. And that includes turning -- if you lose traction and start to lowside, it can literally push itself back into line even with no ground traction using the 2500+ pound force of the gyroscopes. You can see that phenomenon in the video when they yank on it with the truck and it pulls itself upright again. Basically it is meant to be a motorcycle that can't be knocked over but otherwise behaves like any other two-wheeler.
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Alright, that makes sense. But then why have a body at all? If it can't fall over it seems like it'd be more suited as a proper bike instead of a bizarre pseudo-car thing. A bike that can't be knocked down/lowsided seems pretty awesome, why can't I have it as an actual bike? Yes it would be a monstrous cruiser thing, but still a bike.
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Beats me. Danny is a little odd and secretive. He rides motorcycles, and my own interpretation of the thing when I saw it is that it's a motorcycle that can't be knocked over. But I think it's actually meant to sell not to motorcyclists, but to the same crowd that currently buys Smartcars. People who just want a small form of personal transportation, but don't want to have to learn to balance a motorcycle, buy leather, get stuck in the rain, or worry about the consequences of an accident. Basically it fits the exact same niche as this thing, and you've got to admit that the C1 is a hell of a lot nicer: 
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It also looks like it wouldn't do a loving corkscrew at the sight of a fast corner like that thing.
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That thing is called a Tango Commuter I believe. It has a sled of batteries at the very bottom. The company claims it has the same rollover resistance as a 911. I always thought they were neat.
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Coredump posted:That thing is called a Tango Commuter I believe. It has a sled of batteries at the very bottom. The company claims it has the same rollover resistance as a 911. I always thought they were neat. Also 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and a 12 second quarter mile.
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nsaP posted:Tail of the Dragon in 2 photos: Ah yes, the universal sign of being slowed by folks ahead. I too have shared that moment with a skyline. 
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Has anyone else seen Bob Price's fatal crash at Isle of Mann this year? I went back five pages and didn't see it posted, so here it is.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5aQFUdONv0This is literally a video of someone dying, don't click if you're squeamish.
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drat that is brutal. Did the other guy who died @ Isle of Man also die at that section or was it somewhere else?
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Revenant.Eagle posted:Ah yes, the universal sign of being slowed by folks ahead. Hah, I never thought about it that way, but it totally is. Hand on the hip, head cocked to the side. KozmoNaut posted:Also 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and a 12 second quarter mile. Also it costs more than $100,000 and looks like a pile of poo poo.
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BlackMK4 posted:What headlight is on that? I can't see it clearly on my phone but if I had to guess with it being a Harley it's a JW Speaker 8700 evolution LED.
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Why would you post that? Show a little loving respect.
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ReformedNiceGuy posted:Why would you post that? Show a little loving respect. This is the reality of the Isle of Man, it's not a matter of "showing respect", it's a matter of if you go there, if you ride there, if you spectate there, this is what happens. IoM is nothing to gently caress with.
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Z3n posted:This is the reality of the Isle of Man, it's not a matter of "showing respect", it's a matter of if you go there, if you ride there, if you spectate there, this is what happens. IoM is nothing to gently caress with. Putting up videos of people dying is pretty loving unclassy.
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