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iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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JFairfax posted:

Didn't comment on this before. A few years back I thought I dislocated my finger playing five a side, finished the game obviously, thought it was just sprained.

When I got home that evening it bloody hurt, I kept wriggling it and trying to pop it back in but it wasn't. I mean it was rather wonky.

Anyway, go to the hospital the next day and the bloody thing is fractured not dislocated. So I had been trying to pop my fractured finger back into a socket that it was not dislocated from.

I am an idiot.

Still, it wasn't too bad and I am sure you'll be back no normal in a few weeks, and given it's your 5th finger it shouldn't cause too much of a problem for you in your day to day life until it heals.

No, it's not too bad. Funnily enough two years ago I almost did the exact same injury to the same finger, except with only two fractures but an added dislocation. I guess this time was a better result since I didn't need to get the specialist to put it back into the right shape for me :toot:

Upside is I'm getting more precious outfield time whilst I heal (got to get my coveted 2 goals per season somehow) although being totally uncoordinated in everyday life I'm bumping my finger on everything in sight.

Looking around at various brands of gloves to compare, is it just me or is there absolutely nothing listed on Nike's website for them? Have they just stopped making gloves altogether? Those Sondico's look nice but I really want to find a store that sells them so I can try them on (left hand only for now, obviously :smith:). Anyone know of anywhere in Sydney that stocks them?

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Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
Nike still makes gloves. Check out https://www.great-save.com

Diplomat
Dec 14, 2009


My indoor team finally managed to not lose a game! We managed a 7-7 tie yesterday against a team that was down a player and had no available substitutions.

Current season standings

code:
W	D	L	GF	GA	GD
0	1	5	12	51	-39

Ramagamma
Feb 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
So I got a cheap pedometer as part of a free gift for ordering some printer toner, I played with it on a few weeks ago and ran 4.9 miles in the hour we played. That's only just over a walking pace so that's none too impressive given you'll typically spend about 10 minutes in goal in a match. I lost it after that first use and but I found it again cleaning out the bedroom today which is usefully just in time for Monday night 5's.

Really want to better that figure, I've never been a particularly fit player and I'm not the sort who runs into space all game but I do mostly play football to try and get fit so its going to be my goal tonight to beat 6 miles. I don't even know if that's realistic but I'll set that as a target and see how things go.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
Our goalie in my indoor league with field turf is looking for goalie gloves that won't fall apart after 1 session of soccer. It seems like the field turf just ate his gloves last session. He is trying to stay under $60 and still have grip.

EDIT: He is also looking for somewhere to buy them in the U.S. so he doesn't have to pay ridic shipping.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
A little more, but I know someone who wears these on turf and loves them.

http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/us/P...reen-39708.aspx

ChrisXP
Nov 25, 2004

"In football, time and space are the same thing."

Ramagamma posted:

I played with it on a few weeks ago and ran 4.9 miles in the hour we played.

In 90 mins against Italy Wayne Rooney covered 6.9 miles, over half a mile further than Gerrard who was Englands second highest. Sounds like you did well to me.

And Congratulations to Diplomat! When my 11-a-side team started playing 7-a-side it was like coming up against the Harlem Globetrotters every week until we worked out what we were doing. Hopefully you are on the same trajectory.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
Tonight I managed to make an awesome double save and gently caress up my hamstring in the process.

My team habitually gets caught upfield on corners, so the other team managed a 2-man breakaway. Approaching the box, the guy with the ball let it get too far in front of him, so I dove on it.

Dude takes three steps and clatters into me, sending the ball rolling along towards the other attacker. One of my defenders got back and got a piece of the ensuing shot, and I got a hand on it as it trickled onto the goal line, feeling a sharp pain in my hamstring in the process.

loving ref was out of position and gave the goal anyway.

Diplomat
Dec 14, 2009


ChrisXP posted:

And Congratulations to Diplomat! When my 11-a-side team started playing 7-a-side it was like coming up against the Harlem Globetrotters every week until we worked out what we were doing. Hopefully you are on the same trajectory.

Thanks! I feel that we may still be in the "playing the Harlem Globetrotters every week" camp but it feels good to know that we wont go the entire season losing every match. We're getting better but there is still quite a gap.

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010

To further add regret to the fact that I wasn't raised with soccer like everyone else I play with, someone made the comment after last night's game of, "you don't take a lot of shots or score very often, but somehow whenever you do it's always something ridiculous or magical."

I've scored 6 goals this year now: last night's steal off of their defender followed by a quick touch and then smashing it through the keeper's legs, a quick feint to the right to throw off a defender immediately followed by a low shot into the lower left corner from 10yds out, a backheel over the keeper's head on a low and early cross, a left-footed high volley curved into the upper corner (I've never practiced with my left foot), a fully-extended one touch shot into the lower corner on a dead sprint, and a two-touch roller around the keeper, who had come out of the box and very nearly intercepted the pass that led to the goal. All of it purely instinctive.

Meanwhile, I have girls forcing me off the ball, free kicks missing my target by 5+ yards, panicked passes to nobody up the pitch, and our amazon central defender telling me she loves me dearly, but will put a foot up my rear end if I again leave my mark to go after the ball.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice

Bobby Digital posted:

A little more, but I know someone who wears these on turf and loves them.

http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/us/P...reen-39708.aspx

Thanks for this, these seem to be awesome

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Won our first game since I started playing for this 6 a side team in Chicago.

The conditions are pretty brutal, it's hot here at the moment and we play in a big metal box that has no air conditioning so it is seriously loving hot and humid.

First match I wanted to throw up and just stop. Next couple have been better but we lost, including last week where we had 7 players so that's 1 sub against a team that had about 12. We kept it to 1-0 in the first half but then got trounced and it ended up like 7-2 - but I got an assist.

Last night we won 5-0 and I got my first goal, a first time left foot shot right into the roof of the net.

Fitness felt really good for the first half but dropped off significantly in the second which impacted my performance. However instead of giving away a goal or two through mistakes I actually ended up making some decent tackles and challenges in defence to help us keep our clean sheet.

Marked improvement and really enjoying it! Now I have a real incentive to get fit as I want to last properly for the whole of matches.

e/ I've been a keeper for most of my life and honestly I think this is the first goal I've scored in a competitive game as an adult.

JFairfax fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jun 18, 2014

Riven
Apr 22, 2002
Playing my first game of 11v11 outdoor tonight. Only playing experience is two sessions of indoor 6v6 over the winter, but moved away from that town in March and couldn't do the commute to keep going with that team.

We'll see how it goes! I guess the major solace for me is that coming from indoor first I'm used to getting 9 goals put past me sometimes, so I'm hoping the relative lower scores in outdoor will help my confidence at first. I think I'm most nervous about keeping out corners and free kicks, since those were pretty rare in indoor, and when they happened they're not really comparable to the outdoor equivalents.

ChrisXP
Nov 25, 2004

"In football, time and space are the same thing."

Diplomat posted:

Thanks! I feel that we may still be in the "playing the Harlem Globetrotters every week" camp but it feels good to know that we wont go the entire season losing every match. We're getting better but there is still quite a gap.

Is there any call for a write-up of some general strategy for this kind of football? I think there are some quite important rules for playing 6v6 or 7v7 football that aren't obvious, and are different from the 5 and 11-a-side forms. Learning these made a huge difference to my team.

ChrisXP
Nov 25, 2004

"In football, time and space are the same thing."

Riven posted:

Playing my first game of 11v11 outdoor tonight.

In my experience the biggest difference is that in amateur 11v11, actually stopping shots is the one of the least important skills for a GK. That might sound strange, but the lack of quality shooting from distance compared to the number of mistakes your defence will make means you have to do a lot of other things well. Typically:

* Scrappy half-chances close to the goal. Your 6v6 should help here as its about getting your body in the way and just being a barrier.
* Coming off your line and sweeping stuff up/saving one-on-ones. As the opposition lump balls over the top, or your defence fall over/mis-control/pass straight to the strikers, knowing when and how to come out is a big plus.
* Taking goal kicks. If you team are highly outplayed, you will feel like you are taking hundreds of these.
* Talking to players. Since you can see the whole field at once you are in a great position to see a problem developing. Use your lungs and let people know.
* Dealing with back-passes - this might depend on the level you play at. Some teams like to use GK a lot to bounce passes off.
* Staying focused when you aren't involved. You might not see the ball for 10mins. Quite a difference from what you are used to.

As for corners, best advice is to let your defence deal with them until you get more experienced. Don't come for them and disappear into a crowd.

Expect that most goals you'll concede will be things you have no chance with. So shrug them off and blame someone else!

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Ok, gonna invest in good ball. Gonna buy it soon so when it gets here my leg will (hopefully) be healed. I'd prefer not to get an official match ball cause. I don't have have the need nor funds. I don't mind getting a ball that's kinda pricy as long as it's worth it. Something that can take abuse, that isn't too padded, and something that is unforgiving so that I need to learn proper form when taking free kicks and poo poo.

Any suggestions?

BISCUIT_TINS
Dec 23, 2008
quite like the mitre ultimatch myself, although some of my mates say it's too heavy and i've heard people say their ones have egged really quickly

mine's been good for a while though

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008

Waroduce posted:

This may be a better question for the lockerroom thread, and if it is, i'll move it

Id like to start playing football again. I was a three sport athlete in high school (baseball/american football/track), i played rugby (outside wing) and club baseball in college. Im a two years removed, however I workout religiously and am in great shape, and do cardio about twice a week. My stamina and pace should take care of itself, however my actual soccer ability and knowledge is unkown and lacking respectively. I have zero exposure to organized soccer in any form, and have never even played an 11-11. I spent about a year in colombia playing pick up and street/park soccer nearly everyday with my cousin and his friends (3v3 to 8v8), and if i had to assign a position i guess i was used as a ten position and occasionally as a 9. Im strong, and in SA the guys were either smaller than me or werent in as good shape, so it was alot of through balls to me and i would hold and give it back, or 1-2 and finish. If i had to list my stregnths, probably have a strong leg, agrressive, good short pass and finishing. Probably because i was never asked to do anything else and was able to sit at the top of the formation and watch these little spanish fucks either be messi and set me up or play crosses to me. I have no idea what i can or will play in the league or w the pickup crowd, but probably wherever they stick me. Whats a good way to figure out what position you are a fit for?

Ive been wanting to get back into it for a while, but the world cup has really rekindled my love of the game. Ive registered for some organized pick up soccer and an adult 8v8 league that both start in a month and a half. I could start showing up to the pickup games whenever, but id like to do a little work myself to knock off rust and get anything resembling form back. The pickup games are in a spanish part of town, and id like to not embarrass myself earn a reputation as a poo poo player.

What are some skill related drills and exercises I can do by myself or with one other person to improve my touch and soccer skill? Ive taken to dribbling around the house, and its helped, but id like to get out on a field and do some work. Ive got cones and like 4 balls.

Youtube, websites whatever ill take it.

E: i did find out i dont have a dominant foot if that matters. I can pass, dribble and shoot off both. The only thing thats a little weaker is my finishing placement off my left. Short Passes are unaffected, although long passes probably are. I have no idea, ive never passed over 15/20 yrds in my life
I should add that im going to kick around with a friend tomorrow, but its unlikely we'll be able to find anyone else to play with. people generally show up to the park to play basketball. but if people could throw like some 2 person drills at me or something thatd be cool. was thinking about sticking one of us in hte middle of the field, one on an out of bounds line and run down the length while passing back and forth.

edit: also this is all outside in cleats, ive never played inside or futsal, idk if id like it, i like to eat up space

Waroduce fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 20, 2014

Earthy Ape Unit
Jun 17, 2014

by XyloJW
Get a few more dudes, stand in a 10m circle with 2 dudes in the middle, guys on the outside try to 1 control touch and then pass to each other without letting the inside dudes snag it.


If you really can't find more guys, stand a ways away from each other, and pass the ball. You have to stop it inside a 2ft circle with a single touch and then pass it back. Change the body part you use to stop it after you get 10 in a row. If you get bored, make the stop circle a partial circle oriented to one side of you. If you get really bored, do longer passes that are up in the air. Try and use both feet always.

Being new you'll probably never be a great dribbler. But you can get a good and directional first touch going and learn how to make good passes. Your future teammates will love playing with you.

ChrisXP
Nov 25, 2004

"In football, time and space are the same thing."

quote:

Whats a good way to figure out what position you are a fit for?

This is an interesting question, as its not something I've ever really thought about for an adult. From what I know of Baseball and American Football, you are talking about very specialist roles whereas I imagine to most beginners football looks like 10 guys all doing mostly the same thing. But since you have played some games you might see the nuances.
One of the things I like about the game is that you can play in most positions regardless of your physical type IF you know how to use what you have. So maybe think about what you would like, and work towards that?

If you end up playing with folks who all think they are amazing, and will only play in attacking roles, there might be an opening as a defensive midfielder? If you are in shape and can pass the ball fairly well over short distances then give it a go. A player who holds their position for most of the game, but gets back to cover defenders who get caught out, and then gives the ball to 'better' team mates when in position will make a lot of friends.

quote:

What are some skill related drills and exercises I can do by myself?

As for drills, I'd say the three things that get noticed the most when playing with someone new is fitness (you have this covered), whether they will lose the ball when in possession, and how easily the opposition go past them. So I'd focus on the second one. You want to be able to control it, turn to a new direction, and pass to a team mate. Can the two of you find a wall to use in the place of a third person?

1) Friend passes to you
2) Control it
3) Turn towards the wall
4) Pass it to the wall
5) Control the rebound
6) Turn to friend
7) Pass to friend

Repeat, getting quicker and smoother. Its possible to combine #2 and #3, and #5 and #6 when you get better. Mix it up for best effect, such as using both feet equally, turning in different directions and sometimes making your friend throw it to you etc etc

Match experience will teach you the decision making part, but if you have the skills to pull it off people will see you as a decent player.

Vinestalk
Jul 2, 2011
If you're playing in casual games, play different positions and rotate. If it's somewhat competitive, then you shouldn't be playing in forward positions if you're not comfortable with the ball at your feet.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

If you're joining a competitive team, surely the coach or the more senior players will be able to tell your skills from a few training sessions and tell you where they want you playing?

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

Soulex posted:

Ok, gonna invest in good ball. Gonna buy it soon so when it gets here my leg will (hopefully) be healed. I'd prefer not to get an official match ball cause. I don't have have the need nor funds. I don't mind getting a ball that's kinda pricy as long as it's worth it. Something that can take abuse, that isn't too padded, and something that is unforgiving so that I need to learn proper form when taking free kicks and poo poo.

Any suggestions?

You can usually get previous years official match balls for half price or better on ebay.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
start at right or left back.

it's where everyone who can't play goes to start with (or continues to stay there). Your fitness will be an asset and you'll have centrebacks shouting at you with regards positioning so you'll know where to be. there will probably be the odd time you can break forward. But if you're up against teams with pacy wingers, being able to run and stay close to them will be an asset.

ChrisXP
Nov 25, 2004

"In football, time and space are the same thing."
I've never played 8v8, but I'm guessing he doesn't have the fullback option in that setup.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
my bad, I thought we were talking 11v11

if it's 8 a side, don't worry, just try all the positions.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Shrapnig posted:

You can usually get previous years official match balls for half price or better on ebay.

This is pretty cool tbh.

What one should I look to get?

Mostly gonna be passing against a wall and doing free kicks

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Soulex posted:

This is pretty cool tbh.

What one should I look to get?

Mostly gonna be passing against a wall and doing free kicks

Jabulani, obviously

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Not a complete idiot :(

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

Soulex posted:

This is pretty cool tbh.

What one should I look to get?

Mostly gonna be passing against a wall and doing free kicks

I'd get a poo poo ball for passing against a wall and a decent one for when you're actually on a good surface. A wall will gently caress up a ball something fierce pretty quickly.

I'm partial to Nike balls myself but I do like the Champions League ball. The World Cup balls are poo poo.

Earthy Ape Unit
Jun 17, 2014

by XyloJW
Please don't buy a Jabulani anyone, Bogan Krkic is trolling. Normally these forums are pretty troll free but always stay on guard.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

I know he was trolling. Its why the 2010 WC was poo poo. Great idea about old CL balls though.

Also its pretty mandatory to troll over here in TRP.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Thank you for advice

Earthy Ape Unit
Jun 17, 2014

by XyloJW

Soulex posted:

I know he was trolling. Its why the 2010 WC was poo poo. Great idea about old CL balls though.

Also its pretty mandatory to troll over here in TRP.

Not for you Soulex, for all new faces and lurkers who might honestly buy a bloody Jabulani.

And I know some people take the position that trolling is okay, but I'm one of those rare posters that's not a believer in such things, sorry.

Earthy Ape Unit
Jun 17, 2014

by XyloJW
Now watch this drive.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Yeah, can't find any champions league match balls used, but I have been reading some reviews about the Brazuca Replique. Seems pretty good.

ephex
Nov 4, 2007





PHWOAR CRIMINAL
I played a total of 150 minutes today and now my body is cramping like mad i need advice i already took magnesium and ate a banana and drank lots of water halp

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

ephex posted:

I played a total of 150 minutes today and now my body is cramping like mad i need advice i already took magnesium and ate a banana and drank lots of water halp

lol owned, i played about the same a couple weeks ago for the futsal world cup and pulled up fine

e. just keep drinking water and maybe a gatorade, try eating a salty thing too

Riven
Apr 22, 2002

ChrisXP posted:

In my experience the biggest difference is that in amateur 11v11, actually stopping shots is the one of the least important skills for a GK. That might sound strange, but the lack of quality shooting from distance compared to the number of mistakes your defence will make means you have to do a lot of other things well. Typically:

* Scrappy half-chances close to the goal. Your 6v6 should help here as its about getting your body in the way and just being a barrier.
* Coming off your line and sweeping stuff up/saving one-on-ones. As the opposition lump balls over the top, or your defence fall over/mis-control/pass straight to the strikers, knowing when and how to come out is a big plus.
* Taking goal kicks. If you team are highly outplayed, you will feel like you are taking hundreds of these.
* Talking to players. Since you can see the whole field at once you are in a great position to see a problem developing. Use your lungs and let people know.
* Dealing with back-passes - this might depend on the level you play at. Some teams like to use GK a lot to bounce passes off.
* Staying focused when you aren't involved. You might not see the ball for 10mins. Quite a difference from what you are used to.

As for corners, best advice is to let your defence deal with them until you get more experienced. Don't come for them and disappear into a crowd.

Expect that most goals you'll concede will be things you have no chance with. So shrug them off and blame someone else!

Thanks. This as really helpful. My biggest issue was goal kicks as I've never really had to take the. Practiced a lot before I went out, finally got it down, then went out and kicked it in a low straight line three times in a town until a guy came back and said he was taking them.

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Earthy Ape Unit
Jun 17, 2014

by XyloJW

Riven posted:

Thanks. This as really helpful. My biggest issue was goal kicks as I've never really had to take the. Practiced a lot before I went out, finally got it down, then went out and kicked it in a low straight line three times in a town until a guy came back and said he was taking them.

Backspin backspin backspin.

Look at how pro goalkeepers kick, with that weird low swinging stab motion. That's to a) keep your foot below the ball's center of gravity and b) get hella backspin on the thing to keep it floating and going farther.

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