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No matter how this all goes down, there's no way this doesn't end with Old Nick dead so Fury Jr. can be King Eyepatch in 616. I do like his base full of LMDs because it reminds me of that level in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 where the base is Fury's secret hideout and it's populated by a bunch of Furys doing menial poo poo on computers in the background.
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I don't want to live in a world where cigar chomping former Howling Commando leader Nick Fury isn't in the 616. Doing cool spy poo poo, being grizzled as gently caress, and turning wheels within wheels within wheels. 
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Barry Convex posted:If 1 is the case, wouldn't that mean that the Infinity Formula never existed? Wouldn't that invalidate Fury Jr.'s origin? It all depends on how far Fury's lies and secrets go  The only thing that makes me think they'll do the "he's always been old or has been old for ages" is that apparently Fury or whomever has been going around killing for years is too long for it to match up fully with Battle Scars.
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Jun 19, 2014 11:00
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Maybe it's just super-cancer from smoking too many stogies while breathing in jet-cycle exhaust. It's probably how he'd want to go, if not by complication from punching Hitler too hard.
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Jun 19, 2014 12:09
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Barry Convex posted:If 1 is the case, wouldn't that mean that the Infinity Formula never existed? Wouldn't that invalidate Fury Jr.'s origin? Nick Fury, Jr. is actually the SON OF AN LMD. Book it.
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Jun 19, 2014 16:52
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Old Fury should die, but in his last act he uploads all of his memories into the head of his son, effectively wiping his memory making him become Old Fury, and getting rid of our second, unnecessary Nick Fury.
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Jun 20, 2014 06:46
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I was 99% sure it was an LMD but for some reason everyone at my LCS thought they'd actually finally killed off the real Nick Fury (oddly enough more out of a hate for Bucky than cynicism regarding Samuel L. Fury). I mean, having your hand shot off and then being decapitated with a machete would be pretty loving manly but simultaneously too unceremonious for Nick "Goddamn" Fury.Little Mac posted:Nick Fury, Jr. is actually the SON OF AN LMD. A decoy so lifelike it can create bastards by proxy.
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Jun 20, 2014 18:04
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First Bass posted:I was 99% sure it was an LMD but for some reason everyone at my LCS thought they'd actually finally killed off the real Nick Fury (oddly enough more out of a hate for Bucky than cynicism regarding Samuel L. Fury). I mean, having your hand shot off and then being decapitated with a machete would be pretty loving manly but simultaneously too unceremonious for Nick "Goddamn" Fury. How can they hate Bucky? They also hinted it earlier in the issue with him not getting a flash of secrets.
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Jun 20, 2014 18:12
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There is no way of killing Nick Fury that I'll ever find acceptable. You should never even be standing in the same room as him, and if you are it's because he's disguised as the janitor and you have no loving clue, until you notice that he was mopping the floor all day and that coffee stain from the morning is still there. Anyone getting close to him should be already finding the trail and gone cold. Basically Nick Fury is like Keyser Söze except he runs a spy network instead of a criminal empire.
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Jun 20, 2014 20:36
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Catching up on this now. I love how Original Sin is this grim, noir mystery told super straight, but full of goofy poo poo like a trail of bullet casings in space, a murdered planet, eyeball face and glowing green bullets. Really enjoying it so far. Have any of the tie-ins been really good? Unmature fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jun 23, 2014 |
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Unmature posted:Catching up on this now. I love how Original Sin is this grim, noir mystery told super straight, but full of goofy poo poo like a trail of bullet casings in space, a murdered planet, eyeball face and glowing green bullets. Really enjoying it so far.
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Jun 26, 2014 02:55
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Rocket and Punisher need to have a team-up soon.
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Jun 26, 2014 02:59
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Codependent Poster posted:Rocket and Punisher need to have a team-up soon. Throw Doc Strange in there and we have the best movie of MCU Phase 3.
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Timeless Appeal posted:That's really Aaron's deal. Wolverine and the X-men is known for being goofy and over-the-top, but it's also pretty weird and grotesque at times. I think this book's tone will be defined by the fact that, yes, Bucky Barnes was carrying around a decapitated head, but he also swung it around and smacked someone in the face with it during a fight. This is the writer who had the fall of man and usurpation of Heaven thwarted by a flaming skeleton on a shark and Ghost Hoss and his Penance Fist.
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Jun 26, 2014 03:05
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Original Sin: Hulk vs. Iron Man #1 was pretty cool. Is Banner and Stark's pre-superhero friendship precedented in the comics or are they just drawing from the movies?
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Unmature posted:Original Sin: Hulk vs. Iron Man #1 was pretty cool. Is Banner and Stark's pre-superhero friendship precedented in the comics or are they just drawing from the movies? It's in the Indestructible Hulk Annual.
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Jun 26, 2014 03:40
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Unmature posted:Original Sin: Hulk vs. Iron Man #1 was pretty cool. Is Banner and Stark's pre-superhero friendship precedented in the comics or are they just drawing from the movies? Because of the film they are now science bros or whatever until Avengers 2 breaks them up.
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Jun 26, 2014 08:21
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It's still a relationship that makes sense, the two biggest brains in the defense industry should at least cross paths.
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Jun 26, 2014 08:24
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Yeah, it's not exactly CHEESE Coulson level of incongruous change.
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Jun 26, 2014 08:26
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I saw on Diamond that this week had some kind of "Original Sin 3.1". I didn't see it in my shop though. Anyone get that or can just clue me in on what it was?
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IUG posted:I saw on Diamond that this week had some kind of "Original Sin 3.1". I didn't see it in my shop though. Anyone get that or can just clue me in on what it was? It is the Hulk Vs. Iron Man series.
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Jun 26, 2014 14:34
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IUG posted:I saw on Diamond that this week had some kind of "Original Sin 3.1". I didn't see it in my shop though. Anyone get that or can just clue me in on what it was? Marvel are renaming their tie-in series in hopes that more people will buy them. The Thor and Loki crossover is being renamed to Original Sin 5.1 as well.
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Jun 26, 2014 14:36
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SirDan3k posted:It's still a relationship that makes sense, the two biggest brains in the defense industry should at least cross paths. Oh I wasn't complaining, I love it. I was just curious if the movies got it from the comics it vice versa.
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Jun 26, 2014 15:02
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Unmature posted:Oh I wasn't complaining, I love it. I was just curious if the movies got it from the comics it vice versa. I believe Michelinie and Layton introduced the idea of Tony befriending Banner and feeling an obligation to help him back in 1980 or so, but I don't think it was ever really a big thing.
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Jun 26, 2014 15:20
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Metal Loaf posted:I believe Michelinie and Layton introduced the idea of Tony befriending Banner and feeling an obligation to help him back in 1980 or so, but I don't think it was ever really a big thing. Yeah Layton and Michelinie were the first guys to ever do a Bruce Banner and Tony Stark crossover during their run, but other's took up on that idea. The 1990's Ironman cartoon had a Hulk based episode (though I don't think the Hulk cartoon had an Ironman episode.) Bruce Jones run on Hulk (long and dull though it was) had an arc focused around Tony and Bruce. Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale actually already did the "Tony Stark was involved in the Gamma Bomb Project" in his Hulk: Grey series. The other big writer to do a Tony and Bruce crossover was Warren Ellis in the Ultimate Universe, I think it was called Ultimate Human. He had the single best line about their dynamic. "Ironman is science gone right. The Hulk is science gone wrong."
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Another issue of Original Sins and I think I know where its going. Nick Fury was not the shooter, but he is responsible due to his actions. It also seems that he is setting up the people he recruited to take over his weekend job.
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Jul 2, 2014 15:28
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bobkatt013 posted:Another issue of Original Sins and I think I know where its going. Nick Fury was not the shooter, but he is responsible due to his actions. It also seems that he is setting up the people he recruited to take over his weekend job. If it's just going to be one guy, I could definitely see this as a good place to use Winter Soldier.
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Dacap posted:If it's just going to be one guy, I could definitely see this as a good place to use Winter Soldier. I could see that Bucky had already taken over for Fury and that's how he knew.
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Jul 2, 2014 16:11
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Yeah I kind of see this as Bucky taking over Nick Furies job. I've actually really enjoyed most of Original Sin so far. It's been really decent.
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Jul 2, 2014 16:18
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This secret also makes a lot of sense and not completely offensive like say a Distinguished Competition event that had a murdered mystery and a secret.
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Bucky hasn't really had a place in the Marvel U recently, so I'm happy this seems to be where it's heading. It's a more interesting direction than having him turn heel and I'd totally read a Winter Solider: Man on the Wall series about him taking out alien threats.
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Dacap posted:Bucky hasn't really had a place in the Marvel U recently, so I'm happy this seems to be where it's heading. It's a more interesting direction than having him turn heel and I'd totally read a Winter Solider: Man on the Wall series about him taking out alien threats. You really think that they would have Bucky turn heel? He is currently in New Invaders and I hope that Winter Solider: Man on the Wall will be written by Aaron since he does not have any Marvel work after Original Sins ends.
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Jul 2, 2014 16:32
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bobkatt013 posted:You really think that they would have Bucky turn heel? He is currently in New Invaders and I hope that Winter Solider: Man on the Wall will be written by Aaron since he does not have any Marvel work after Original Sins ends. It would make sense to turn him grey due to his current status in the movies.
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After reading the newest issue, it almost feels like the impossible has happened. That Nick Fury has become TOO badass.
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bobkatt013 posted:You really think that they would have Bucky turn heel? He is currently in New Invaders and I hope that Winter Solider: Man on the Wall will be written by Aaron since he does not have any Marvel work after Original Sins ends. Wait is he being taken off Thor?
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Leper Residue posted:Wait is he being taken off Thor? I'm sure he just forgot. I haven't heard anything about that at least.
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Senor Candle posted:I'm sure he just forgot. I haven't heard anything about that at least. Oh yeah he still is on Thor, but before this he was on Thor and 2 X-men titles. After he is only on Thor, and I am sure he will be given at least one more title.
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bobkatt013 posted:Oh yeah he still is on Thor, but before this he was on Thor and 2 X-men titles. After he is only on Thor, and I am sure he will be given at least one more title. Ok cool. But yeah he should be getting another title and I'd be A ok with him writing Bucky going on inter-dimensional assassination missions.
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That issue was pretty good. Making Fury even more badass than he already was is a feat in itself. I like how this doesn't apparently contradict Hickman's stories in Secret Warriors and tangentially SHIELD but instead, adds on top of them. My only (minor) consistency gripe would be about the Illuminati : he's been doing their job longer and better. And the incursion stuff would totally fall in his scope of action. Then again he's like super old. Honestly, I'd read any Man on the Wall series, whether it's about Fury's past or his eventual replacement.
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I really thought Howard Stark was going to unveil Leonardo da Vinci in that Rocky Mountain stronghold.
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