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Do botchains work on the V4 client yet? If not, does anybody know if they will?
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Jun 26, 2014 06:21
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Angry Grimace posted:Heliod token army. And of course, Heliod himself. Not nearly as good as resolving Gary/MoW in their respective Mono-X Devotion lists, though I know goons have been experimenting with White Weenie backed by all the anthem effects out there these days, so maybe the two can meet somewhere?
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Jun 26, 2014 06:23
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Promoted Pawn posted:Do botchains work on the V4 client yet? If not, does anybody know if they will? They've always worked. C-Euro posted:Not nearly as good as resolving Gary/MoW in their respective Mono-X Devotion lists, though I know goons have been experimenting with White Weenie backed by all the anthem effects out there these days, so maybe the two can meet somewhere? Resolved Brave the Elements is basically a win in that theoretical deck, though.
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Jun 26, 2014 06:28
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Promoted Pawn posted:Do botchains work on the V4 client yet? If not, does anybody know if they will? https://twitter.com/GoatBots  Apparently everyone who has ever mlayed mtgo is getting 35 phantom points too?
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Jun 26, 2014 06:29
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:https://twitter.com/GoatBots I can't wait for prices to dip from people fake quitting MTGO so I can pick up a bunch of Vintage cards I still need.
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Jun 26, 2014 06:30
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Angry Grimace posted:They've always worked. He's asking about the people running the botchains still being able to do so after the old client gets turned off, not about being able to do trades with them from the new client. It certainly hasn't "always worked". That said, I would be very surprised if any major chain is unable to get their poo poo sorted before the deadline, if they haven't got things running already.
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Jun 26, 2014 06:32
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Angry Grimace posted:I can't wait for prices to dip from people fake quitting MTGO so I can pick up a bunch of Vintage cards I still need. Yeah apparently when they decommissioned V2 it was a total shitshow. Tickets hit .72 haha. I missed you guys 
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Jun 26, 2014 06:34
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Pretty stoked that the Eldrazi are coming back, at least in flavor text and plot  Also, dunno how I forgot the Jace and Garruk super standards, but thanks for reminding me.
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Jun 26, 2014 06:39
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Angry Grimace posted:Resolved Brave the Elements is basically a win in that theoretical deck, though. It doesn't take advantage of devotion as a mechanic, but a win's still a win I suppose. Does MBD even have devotion-centric cards outside of Gary?
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Jun 26, 2014 06:46
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I can't stop seeing this as Cobra Commander's hood.
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Jun 26, 2014 06:47
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In memoriam, does anyone have any of the great V4 client bugs that i'm sure will totally be fixed for live? I'd love to drive home just how bad this switchover is going to be.
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Jun 26, 2014 06:54
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Evangel of Heliod is not a very good card but it might be breakable, especially with Convoke?
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Jun 26, 2014 06:54
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I don't get the hullabaloo about the V4 client anyways. Version 3 has always sucked just as bad, it just sucks in a way you're used to.C-Euro posted:It doesn't take advantage of devotion as a mechanic, but a win's still a win I suppose. Does MBD even have devotion-centric cards outside of Gary? Very few "devotion" decks have more than one or two because there aren't many cards with the mechanic in general. I don't think Mono Blue has anything outside of Master of Waves either and the occasional mono-red deck just has Fanatic of Mogis. In white the devotion helps with Nykthos and Heliod though, so you can ramp up to stuff like Elspeth much faster. a dozen swans posted:Evangel of Heliod is not a very good card but it might be breakable, especially with Convoke? Luckily, Bestow creatures are not auras when they aren't in play. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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Jun 26, 2014 06:54
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't get the hullabaloo about the V4 client anyways. Version 3 has always sucked just as bad, it just sucks in a way you're used to. They have put untold hours and millions of dollars into a client that is worse than V3 in almost every meaningful way. That's a real accomplishment for how bad V3 is.
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Jun 26, 2014 06:59
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Niton posted:They have put untold hours and millions of dollars into a client that is worse than V3 in almost every meaningful way. That's a real accomplishment for how bad V3 is. :  :
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Jun 26, 2014 07:05
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Jabor posted:That said, I would be very surprised if any major chain is unable to get their poo poo sorted before the deadline, if they haven't got things running already. I hope so, I seem to remember the MTGO economy basically disappearing during one of the 'beta-only' weekends because it took all the bots offline. Angry Grimace posted:I don't get the hullabaloo about the V4 client anyways. Version 3 has always sucked just as bad, it just sucks in a way you're used to. While I don't like judging an unfinished project, everything they've shown of V4 so far is a significant downgrade in almost every respect. Unless there's a large day 1 patch coming when V3 gets turned off, I'm not optimistic.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:10
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Veyrall posted:I can't stop seeing this as Cobra Commander's hood. I'm not seeing a problem here.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:14
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Zorak posted:As the immortal Rich Evans once said, "What?" A new Avacyn? Ooookay. M15's theme seems to be "cards that children will flip out over." And I mean that in the best possible way. Avacyn, Phyrexians, Liliana Vess, lords, slivers, legendaries -- we just need Eldrazi and we'll have the most beloved set ever for the kitchen table crowd.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:20
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So why did Nissa change from a race-centric planeswalker to a land-centric planeswalker?
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Jun 26, 2014 07:26
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Something you may not have noticed, but Duress is leaving the format. How will black decks survive on Thoughtseize alone?!Elyv posted:So why did Nissa change from a race-centric planeswalker to a land-centric planeswalker? Elf Hitler wasn't selling too many booster packs.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:27
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Elyv posted:So why did Nissa change from a race-centric planeswalker to a land-centric planeswalker? M15 is all about different planes and she's from Zendikar.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:31
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Niton posted:In memoriam, does anyone have any of the great V4 client bugs that i'm sure will totally be fixed for live? I'd love to drive home just how bad this switchover is going to be. Cards are set aside face up when you use Necropotence, making it really easy to decide how many cards you want to draw off of it!
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Jun 26, 2014 07:35
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rabidsquid posted:Cards are set aside face up when you use Necropotence, making it really easy to decide how many cards you want to draw off of it! Ain't nothing compared to the Fatespinner big. Oh, MODO 
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Jun 26, 2014 07:38
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Saeku posted:M15 is all about different planes and she's from Zendikar. The actual answer is in the Uncharted Realms story. All of the elves other than her get killed by Eldrazi and she uses her powers to summon Wood Elementals now. Not those Wood Elementals. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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Jun 26, 2014 07:39
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Also part of her arc in general is coming to terms with the fact that, you know, being a stupid elf racist kind of doomed her plane and maybe, just maybe, she should focus less about how Elves Rule and more on that whole Nature thing.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:41
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rabidsquid posted:Cards are set aside face up when you use Necropotence, making it really easy to decide how many cards you want to draw off of it! Seriously? That suggests that whether cards are set aside face-down or face-up is a client-side thing, and hence that it'd be straightforward to write a nearly-undetectable cheating tool that allows you to see what they are.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:42
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Is there still working draft recorder in V4?
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Jun 26, 2014 07:52
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rabidsquid posted:Cards are set aside face up when you use Necropotence, making it really easy to decide how many cards you want to draw off of it! Is this only for the player who is setting them aside? Because someone played it against me tonight and from *my* perspective they were face down.
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Jun 26, 2014 07:59
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I just want to kill all of my opponents at once with Ob, Hive Mind, and a couple search spells.
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Jun 26, 2014 08:34
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Lunsku posted:Is there still working draft recorder in V4? Draft recorder has been working in v4 for about a year and a half now, unless something changed extremely recently it still is.
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Jun 26, 2014 09:36
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Angry Grimace posted:Something you may not have noticed, but Duress is leaving the format. How will black decks survive on Thoughtseize alone?! Has that been confirmed via number crunching or something?
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Jun 26, 2014 10:02
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Frozen_flame posted:Has that been confirmed via number crunching or something? Cruel Sadist is 93, Endless Obedience is 94. So no black cards with names between Cr- and En-.
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Jun 26, 2014 10:09
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M15 seems to have a lot of flavor. Really digging the reveals.
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Jun 26, 2014 10:12
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Jabor posted:Cruel Sadist is 93, Endless Obedience is 94. But hey now, still a spot open for Inquisition of Kozilek! 
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Jun 26, 2014 10:14
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Jabor posted:Cruel Sadist is 93, Endless Obedience is 94. drat, I was really hoping this was the Standard I get to T1 quadruple Dark Ritual into a Spirit of the Night.
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Jun 26, 2014 10:15
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Jabor posted:Cruel Sadist is 93, Endless Obedience is 94. Welp. Maybe it sneaks into Khans instead. E: looks like Trading Post might still make it! The Murdergoats dream lives on. Frozen_flame fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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Jun 26, 2014 10:33
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So what card in standard is blue, and will turn lands into islands in some manner? This is important top secret squiddery
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Jun 26, 2014 10:36
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Homo for Hitler posted:So what card in standard is blue, and will turn lands into islands in some manner? This is important top secret squiddery Sealock Monster?
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Jun 26, 2014 10:44
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Frozen_flame posted:Sealock Monster? Chasm skulker is the card I'm referencing. I'll be using that, plus quickling to save my mans from targeted removal, give my raptors extra frostburn evolve triggers, and have the option open to run more hypnotic sirens because playing them early won't be nearly as poor of a decision. I'll also be replacing bident with military intelligence because a) it isn't legendary b) isn't nearly dead if my opponent is at 2 or less c) I can activate the draw effect as early as turn 3 with dispel backup and finally d) you're much less likely to be combat tricked into a bad attack considering they would have to respond before declaring attacks if they wanted to shut down the draw effect.
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Is the Soul of Shandalar the best of the "Soul of Place" cycle of creatures? Because it's got removal tacked on and kills basically each other Soul in combat. Probably still not Constructed-worthy, though. Also, the lands this go round seem kinda really cool. At least, a couple of them.    
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